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DaReaper
Net 7
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2010.05.27 02:34:00 - [31]
 

Yup i can;t delegate fighters to anyone not on the same grid as me

Windjammer
Gallente
Posted - 2010.05.27 02:37:00 - [32]
 

Edited by: Windjammer on 27/05/2010 02:40:31
If true, it'll be the same technique they used last patch to gut/nerf the Moros. Then a couple days after the release they slipped the addition into the patch notes.

A side note: I do not need a staffer (CCP Atropos) from a company we pay money to making wiseass comments in the forums when a reasonable question is asked. Have a little respect for your customers. You aren't the only act in town.

Windjammer

Brock Nelson
Posted - 2010.05.27 03:02:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: War Kitten
Tell 'em Boxxy...



What the ****?

JC Anderson
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2010.05.27 04:34:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Brock Nelson
Originally by: War Kitten
Tell 'em Boxxy...



What the ****?


Don't ask.

Boxxy is an annoyingly popular internet fad much like Cocolate rain.

If you go as far as to watch other Boxxy videos on youtube then please understand I am not responsible for the carnage wrought upon your psyche.

Pikkuhukka
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2010.05.27 05:43:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: JC Anderson
Originally by: Brock Nelson
Originally by: War Kitten
Tell 'em Boxxy...



What the ****?


Don't ask.

Boxxy is an annoyingly popular internet fad much like Cocolate rain.

If you go as far as to watch other Boxxy videos on youtube then please understand I am not responsible for the carnage wrought upon your psyche.


my luvs boxxy <3

AnonyTerrorNinja
Minmatar
Atomic Geese
Posted - 2010.05.27 06:07:00 - [36]
 

Edited by: AnonyTerrorNinja on 27/05/2010 06:17:12
Captain Carrier > Launch all zig!
Captain Carrier > Men, I want you to get out there and support First Sergeant Fluffles!
Firbolgs > Neg Captain, we lack locus signal.
Captain Carrier > Someone set them up the signal.
First Sergeant Fluffles > Gentlemen, take your time.
Firbolgs > Captain, we have signal.
Captain Carrier > Main screen turn on!
*Captain Carrier cloaks*
Firbolgs > ._. C... Captain?
Firbolgs > Someone set up us the bomb...


Yes, I realise I just completely and utterly butchered it, but come on - do you honestly expect fighters to work while you're cloaking and to magically be able to warp to whoever they're supposed to support without first locking onto their warp tunnel?

If this is intended, it'll bring carriers to the front lines where they belong or at LEAST place carriers at SOME risk of being caught out.


*edit* And here you have it, apparently it's regarded as an issue

But then, could still be a stealth 'feature' until further notice.

Nemesis Factor
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2010.05.27 06:34:00 - [37]
 

Edited by: Nemesis Factor on 27/05/2010 06:34:14
I have no issue with carriers losing control of drones when they cloak, I never even used this method because I assumed that's what would happen. What I DID do quite regularly is sit in a deep safe and delegate drones to my fleet members. I know deep safes are gone, but I wouldn't mind hopping around safes while delegating. If I have to let reds see my Thanny, I may as well sell it and make a buck off of losing my carrier.

Companion Trollin
You are going too fast
Posted - 2010.05.27 09:07:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Meno Theaetetus
Originally by: Abraxias
Originally by: Meno Theaetetus

Is that seriously your response to a question from a customer?



You must be new here.


I want a decent answer to a question from a paying customer, are these changes to carrier mechanics intentional or are they bugs. I'm just getting a little sick of ccp running there company like a team of college kids programming code in someone's basement. Employ some public relations staff.


I love your rhetoric.

If you're not happy, leave.

ps: It sucks to want.

Meno Theaetetus
Wildly Inappropriate
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2010.05.27 10:14:00 - [39]
 

Edited by: Meno Theaetetus on 27/05/2010 10:24:23
-perhaps not-

Dlardrageth
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Posted - 2010.05.27 11:19:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Windjammer
[...]
A side note: I do not need a staffer (CCP Atropos) from a company we pay money to making wiseass comments in the forums when a reasonable question is asked. Have a little respect for your customers. You aren't the only act in town.



Respect for the individual customers? From a CCP dev? That's a new one... Laughing

Maybe you should take up your issue with CCP's "Internal Affairs" divison, but hey, I can tell you the outcome already now - their logs will show nothing... Rolling Eyes

IB4 CCP FanboiZ

Darwin Duck
Evil Monkey Asylum
Wile E Coyote's
Posted - 2010.05.27 11:23:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Meno Theaetetus
Originally by: CCP Atropos
So you mean to say I can't give my invisible friend in the next state the $100 I owe him? YARRRR!!


Is that seriously your response to a question from a customer?



And the problem is?

Grarr Dexx
Amarr
Kumovi
The G0dfathers
Posted - 2010.05.27 11:27:00 - [42]
 

Can't you just... Get outside forcefield, delegate fighters and then make them warp around with the person who has them? I don't see a problem here, infact its good that carriers now need to be a little bit more involved in order to get their drone support.

Lord EmBra
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2010.05.27 11:34:00 - [43]
 

Edited by: Lord EmBra on 27/05/2010 11:34:39
it's listed as an issue here:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1324781

Intoagun Deshana
Minmatar
Sentinel Eradicators of Doom
Posted - 2010.05.27 17:10:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: CCP Atropos
So you mean to say I can't give my invisible friend in the next state the $100 I owe him? YARRRR!!


Atropos, all I can say right now is that I love you for this comment. YARRRR!!

Baneken
Gallente
The New Knighthood
Apocalypse Now.
Posted - 2010.05.27 17:19:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Meno Theaetetus
Originally by: Abraxias
Originally by: Meno Theaetetus

Is that seriously your response to a question from a customer?



You must be new here.


I want a decent answer to a question from a paying customer, are these changes to carrier mechanics intentional or are they bugs. I'm just getting a little sick of ccp running there company like a team of college kids programming code in someone's basement. Employ some public relations staff.



Yep, his definetly a first timer here.

Illwill Bill
Svea Crusaders
Posted - 2010.05.27 17:24:00 - [46]
 

The old "I didn't read patch notes and now my game is broken" troll, eh?
Old troll is old. 1/10.

Also, lol, you failed to read patch notes before clicking install. Laughing

Ferdio Ricotez
Gallente
Posted - 2010.05.27 17:34:00 - [47]
 

Edited by: Ferdio Ricotez on 27/05/2010 17:34:21
Originally by: Captain Muscles
Originally by: HeliosGal
its in the patch notes, carriers now must expose themselves on grid and uncloaked to assign fighters.

Laughing at internet spaceship perverts.

Mommy, mommy, there's the man who jumped out of the bushes at the park and assigned fighters to me!

You both made me giggle and trolled me well. I actually tried to search the patch notes for this change you describe.

-------------------------------------
This space is reserved in case someone points out the change really is there and I can't search for crap. Be warned though, I have no qualms about employing the Chewbacca defense.
-------------------------------------


Congratulations, you are now made immortal for all eternity in my signature.

That, or until I see a newer citation I like.

EDIT: Well, crap, it won't fit.

Vossejongk
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.05.27 17:39:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Meno Theaetetus
Originally by: Abraxias
Originally by: Meno Theaetetus

Is that seriously your response to a question from a customer?



You must be new here.

Employ some public relations staff.



Hell please no! PR people are the worst of their kind. All they do is say "They're working on it and I cannot give an ETA when it's done." Or: "As of this moment I have no further information".

I love CCP because they (almost) always respond like CCP does.. mostly in a hilarious yet professional way :).

Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
Posted - 2010.05.27 17:46:00 - [49]
 

Hopefully the next "slipped feature" will be making impossible to make ships unprobable.

Betty Coltrane
Posted - 2010.05.27 17:47:00 - [50]
 

Paying customer alert!

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.05.27 18:04:00 - [51]
 

Want to deploy the DPS a carrier can add to the party?
Then commit the carrier.

Don't want to commit the carrier?
Then you don't get to deploy its DPS.

Simple.

B0XXY
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
Posted - 2010.05.27 18:07:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: War Kitten
Tell 'em Boxxy...



Yep, he's trollin'

Donatella D'Tren
Eve Defence Force
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2010.05.27 18:09:00 - [53]
 

Pity this is a known issue. Here's hoping it become a "feature"! Laughing

Commit your carrier to the fight, you pansy.

Heimdallofasgard
APEX ARDENT COALITION
Nulli Tertius
Posted - 2010.05.27 18:20:00 - [54]
 

It's a bug at the moment (link in previous posts) and it's not a change listed in the patch notes.

HOWEVER, No problem with it becoming a feature myself... just have the fighters assigned to a person before they warp into battle and the fighters should follow.

Also... I reckon the warp to within distance should have 250km and 500km ranges added... it'd expand the grids, and make large fleet warfare more interesting as you could have multiple fronts on a single overview... LAG CENTRAL but still... would be nice...

SPEAKING OF LAG... anyone been in any major fleet battles since yesterday? how are the servers holding up?

Tomcat
Gallente
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.05.27 18:57:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Tippia
Want to deploy the DPS a carrier can add to the party?
Then commit the carrier.

Don't want to commit the carrier?
Then you don't get to deploy its DPS.

Simple.


A carrier is a warship designed with a primary mission of deploying and recovering aircraft (fighters), acting as a seagoing airbase. Aircraft (fighters) carriers thus allow a naval force to project air power worldwide without having to depend on local bases for staging aircraft operations. They have evolved from wooden vessels, used to deploy balloons, into nuclear powered warships that carry dozens of fixed and rotary wing aircraft.

TL:DR Your trollin' or not very smart.

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2010.05.27 19:10:00 - [56]
 

Edited by: Zeba on 27/05/2010 19:11:53

Originally by: Tomcat
Originally by: Tippia
Want to deploy the DPS a carrier can add to the party?
Then commit the carrier.

Don't want to commit the carrier?
Then you don't get to deploy its DPS.

Simple.


A carrier is a warship designed with a primary mission of deploying and recovering aircraft (fighters), acting as a seagoing airbase. Aircraft (fighters) carriers thus allow a naval force to project air power worldwide without having to depend on local bases for staging aircraft operations. They have evolved from wooden vessels, used to deploy balloons, into nuclear powered warships that carry dozens of fixed and rotary wing aircraft.

TL:DR Your trollin' or not very smart.
zomg did you just use a rl naval example to justify bashing a game mechanic change in a game that has nothing to do with the way a rl wet water navy operates? The change is interesting and it will be fun to see how this plays out in future battles.

Captain Megadeath
Posted - 2010.05.27 19:32:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Zeba
zomg did you just use a rl naval example to justify bashing a game mechanic change in a game that has nothing to do with the way a rl wet water navy operates? The change is interesting and it will be fun to see how this plays out in future battles.


His example is only half correct anyway. The Soviet Kiev class carriers and Russian Kuznetsov Carrier has nothing to do with projecting air power without the need for bases, but to defend its submarine fleet from surface attack and to provide some ASW capability (through rotary wing craft). Same goes for the British Invincible class carriers.

He tried to be a smart arse and failed. Laughing

Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
Posted - 2010.05.27 19:37:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Windjammer
Edited by: Windjammer on 27/05/2010 02:40:31
If true, it'll be the same technique they used last patch to gut/nerf the Moros. Then a couple days after the release they slipped the addition into the patch notes.

A side note: I do not need a staffer (CCP Atropos) from a company we pay money to making wiseass comments in the forums when a reasonable question is asked. Have a little respect for your customers. You aren't the only act in town.

Windjammer


Another side note: You seriously need to unbunch your panties.

I think most folks would much rather CCP employees feel free to post on these forums in a relaxed, good natured way... and even be "allowed" to be sarcastic once in a while. It's far preferable to no interaction at all, or PR double talk. If I wanted that, I'd go to one of the many "other acts in town" that spew empty yet polite BS at their paying customers.

Frankly, if you are that easily offended, you have indeed chosen the wrong game.

Ghaylenty
Posted - 2010.05.27 19:39:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Windjammer
Edited by: Windjammer on 27/05/2010 02:40:31[/ed

A side note: I do not need a staffer (CCP Atropos) from a company we pay money to making wiseass comments in the forums when a reasonable question is asked. Have a little respect for your customers. You aren't the only act in town.

Windjammer


actually they are. go back to continuum if you're not happy with these internet spaceships. now your carrier actually has a semblance of balance when compared to subcaps. tough bullet to swallow i know but, trust me, some day soon you'll forget you ever had your i-win buttons and we'll all laugh at how stupid carriers used to be.

omgfreemoniez
Posted - 2010.05.27 19:49:00 - [60]
 

The story of this thread is that the trolls deserve CCP, and CCP deserve the trolls.


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