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RedSplat
Posted - 2010.05.26 17:47:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: RedSplat on 26/05/2010 21:28:02
I'm simply astonished someone thought that the removal of custom folders was a good idea.

What possible benefit does the removal of custom folders have?

Please explain how we are to track the activity and movements of a player with several characters in different alliances and/or corporations effectively without custom folders?

How are we to, at a glance, ascertain whether a particular group of players is active? Do you expect people to trawl through largely unsorted collections of hundreds of contacts?

This is going to hit Mercenaries and Wardec corporations HARD, adds nothing to the game, only subtracts and complicates what is a vital intelligence tool that was available to players.

EDIT:

People are now telling me in NPC corp chat that they have just reset all standings, they find the new system so useless they are having to set only a single corp/alliance red at once.




Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
Posted - 2010.05.26 20:52:00 - [2]
 

Yeah, this was incredibly stupid.

Gavjack Bunk
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.05.26 20:57:00 - [3]
 

Trying to make noise about this before Tyrannis resulted in tears from the fanboiz.

The CSM cannot, and will not be able to help.
CCP knew long before deployment this was wilful destruction, and they got CCP PrismX to just troll us instead of listening.

The contact list appears to be a tool for 0.0 space only now, and I doubt it's even any good for that.

Miyamoto Isoruku
Caldari
Original Sin.
Posted - 2010.05.26 20:59:00 - [4]
 

Why the **** did you remove vital functionality from your UI? Seriously, what the **** were you thinking?

IHaveNoFace
Posted - 2010.05.26 21:06:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: IHaveNoFace on 26/05/2010 21:06:48
This is even worse than i expected.

Just logged in, all the individuals i set red are in one huge amorphous mass rather than in ordered custom folders denoting corp and known associations.

The new system is counter intuitive and not nearly as informative as the old.

DO.NOT.LIKE

Really. Think of a few choice curse words, i dont think highly of you tonight CCP. This was not needed, this has not improved the game.

Xenofarion
Gallente
Swords Horses and Heavy Metal
Posted - 2010.05.26 21:14:00 - [6]
 

THANK YOU. I had all my contacts sorted into "corp" folders. Needless to say the number has grown quite abit over the time.

I can't believe it - still desperately hoping for a secret "enable folder-view" button I just haven't found yet ugh

trenny jr
The Python Cartel.
The Defenders of Pen Island
Posted - 2010.05.26 21:18:00 - [7]
 

add -10 through 10 standings and im 100% suport

Elridon
Caldari
Vertex Tactical Solutions

Posted - 2010.05.26 21:20:00 - [8]
 

Confirming that this lack of folders sucks hard. What were you thinking, CCP? Please give us the old contact list, or at least folders again. Crying or Very sad

Concubinia Scarlett
Posted - 2010.05.26 21:30:00 - [9]
 

Finally my lack of friends has an up-side.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops

Posted - 2010.05.26 21:40:00 - [10]
 

Yup. That and the ability to increase the per-page display count in EVEGate.

Even with olders, it's not that uncommon to have 30-40 chars in the same group (e.g. one set of war targets), but to then have to page through these 10 at a time is just… GAH! Have fun trying to mass-remove people from your list once they're not longer necessary to have in your contact list: "Select All, Delete, Yes… Select All, Delete, Yes… SeleFFS JUST LET ME NUKE EVERYONE AT ONCE!!"

This is made even worse since there's no way to sort these people into folders.

Yay! I have three different groups of WTs and four alt corps to keep track of, and now we're no longer at war with two of those… Sure, I can filter some stuff out, but it's still a matter of doing it 10 at a time, figuring out for each page whether they should go or not, and not being able to mass-zap people who are no longer relevant to keep track of.

Carib Devist
Right to Rule
THE UNTHINKABLES
Posted - 2010.05.26 21:51:00 - [11]
 

Sad

Pol Macsliebh
Minmatar
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.05.26 21:55:00 - [12]
 

Shocked Fix it plz

Myrkala
Minmatar
Rebel Inc

Posted - 2010.05.26 22:00:00 - [13]
 

I agree 100% with OP.

Give us arbitrary contact grouping BACK!

Extinctio Sanctitas
State War Academy
Posted - 2010.05.26 22:01:00 - [14]
 

I used to monitor people buying and selling things via contracts by keep them as contacts. It was so nice and tidy. Now they're all just... in my contacts list...

Boo. Confused

Rasz Lin
Caldari
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
Posted - 2010.05.26 22:03:00 - [15]
 

useless, broken and unworkable
current "implementation" is garbage

ChinaWillGrowLarger
Narwhals and Bacon
Posted - 2010.05.26 22:14:00 - [16]
 

I just manually deleted all standings on this character. I'm not dealing with this mess.

Thankfully i dont need standings to stationtrade.

I have a notebook and a pencil to hand that i use for generating ballpark figures for potential profit etc...

Guess i am now using that to keep track of potential competitors. gg CCP.

Quetzalcoatl III
Gallente
EVE University
Ivy League
Posted - 2010.05.26 22:19:00 - [17]
 

It doesn't affect me much, but I find its lack disturbing. Also, I recognize the usability of that feature. So, I agree with OP 100%.

However, I really like that expansion! PI just ROCKS. Very Happy

Nadarius Chrome
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Posted - 2010.05.26 23:16:00 - [18]
 

Totally retarded. Thanks CCP.

Lubomir Penev
Dark Nexxus
S I L E N T.
Posted - 2010.05.26 23:33:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Lubomir Penev on 26/05/2010 23:34:39
Contact in address book before patch: 400+ (past and future targets, neatly ordered in per corp folders). Lets get real, the address book was always used to keep a watch on enemies never to track friends, by 90% of the eve population.

Contact in address book now : 0 (no bug here, I deleted them myself as contacts without ordering attached are completely useless).

Congrats CCP, you've outdone yourself here. I guess in your RL address book the cutie you met in that club while drunk is next to the headhunter that wanted you for a nice job. I hope you won't make any mistake, this could get seriously wrong seriously quick here.

Edited to support, those wonderful forums preview function unchecked it....

Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services

Posted - 2010.05.27 00:38:00 - [20]
 

They were informed of this being an issue with players and ignored us.

Surely at the very least we should have tags/labels.

Think about it CCP if you had tags then you could make tagclouds.
Isn't that the kind of cool "grow the social graph" stuff you're looking for?

You can't invite groups of people to events. There are no groups apart from standings/corp/alliance.

Pure Fail.



Elyseum
Posted - 2010.05.27 00:49:00 - [21]
 

Shocked

Anargirou
Surrender Dorothy
Bipolar Stability
Posted - 2010.05.27 01:25:00 - [22]
 

agreed

Cecile Eremitee
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.05.27 01:59:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Cecile Eremitee on 27/05/2010 01:59:38
your address book has officially been boot.ini-ed YARRRR!!

Frug
Omega Wing
Snatch Victory
Posted - 2010.05.27 02:20:00 - [24]
 

For the love of god yes.

God damn, CCP. A contact list is improved by the removal of folders? Really? Maybe if I only needed a dozen people on that list, it wouldn't matter. But then nobody would give a crap about the list to begin with.



Vandamsel
Gallente
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.05.27 02:25:00 - [25]
 

supported.

Desparo
Posted - 2010.05.27 02:37:00 - [26]
 

We all know CCP is better at nerfing then improving. This is just more proof positive that CCP can't be bothered to fix things and would just rather delete features hoping we don't complain too much.

Jin Nib
Resplendent Knives
Posted - 2010.05.27 03:18:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Jin Nib on 27/05/2010 03:23:54
OMG I'm busy training my alt but now I don't want to log into my main.... This thread is a lie! I just spent last Sunday night organizing all that ****.

This thread is a lie!
This thread is a lie!
This thread is a lie!

God I hope it's a lie.....Sad

EDIT: God damnit! Supported.

Mynxee
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2010.05.27 03:30:00 - [28]
 

Sigh, heavy sigh.
This is NOT rocket science.
Supported with all my heart.

L3pp3r
Snatch Victory
Posted - 2010.05.27 05:18:00 - [29]
 

Yes this was quite a nice gotcha, please let us have our folders back.

I'thari
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.05.27 06:49:00 - [30]
 

/me wants

would be also nice to have more than 300 contacts, get slider back and have separate standings for eve-gate... oh well, when was the last time CCP released something finished or something that made any sense? Rolling Eyes


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