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Terminal Insanity
Minmatar
Convex Enterprises
Posted - 2010.05.26 16:20:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Terminal Insanity on 26/05/2010 16:23:09

Congratulations eve, you've managed to hire the 1 person who wants to destroy your game.
Campaigning on points like
- "Vote carebear and get their griefer ass banned!"
- "Other CSM candidates want level 4 missions moved to lowsec"

Due to the sheer amount of out-there, anti-pvp, anti-eve propaganda, you must wonder, is Ank just a troll? Is he actually just sitting there laughing at the fact he campaigned to turn EVE into Hello Kitty Online, and won?

Oh god we could go on for hours, but this isn't a forum to discuss this player's many low points. (unless it gets him canned!) We're here to discuss how to get him canned off the CSM board.

Let the Plotting/Planning begin!

Hooded Hauler
Posted - 2010.05.26 16:29:00 - [2]
 

Tbh it's not that bad. She'll try to do the things she wants but pretty much everybody else on the CSM thinks that she's a complete ****. All that's going to happen is she's going to be trolled and have fun poked at her until she cries.

I await videos, please record videos

Shaemell Buttleson
Posted - 2010.05.26 16:35:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Terminal Insanity
Edited by: Terminal Insanity on 26/05/2010 16:23:09

Congratulations eve, you've managed to hire the 1 person who wants to destroy your game.
Campaigning on points like
- "Vote carebear and get their griefer ass banned!"
- "Other CSM candidates want level 4 missions moved to lowsec"

Due to the sheer amount of out-there, anti-pvp, anti-eve propaganda, you must wonder, is Ank just a troll? Is he actually just sitting there laughing at the fact he campaigned to turn EVE into Hello Kitty Online, and won?

Oh god we could go on for hours, but this isn't a forum to discuss this player's many low points. (unless it gets him canned!) We're here to discuss how to get him canned off the CSM board.

Let the Plotting/Planning begin!



Really done the research haven't you!Rolling Eyes




Terminal Insanity
Minmatar
Convex Enterprises
Posted - 2010.05.26 16:43:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Terminal Insanity on 26/05/2010 16:55:29
Edited by: Terminal Insanity on 26/05/2010 16:54:05
Originally by: Shaemell Buttleson
Really done the research haven't you!Rolling Eyes

Put a lot of thought and many points into your post, didn't you!ugh

I could have listed the many, many, maaaany reasons as to why the majority of eve think he shouldn't have gotten a single vote. However, you can just browse the many, maaaany threads on here for those. I'm not about to regurgitate them all, i just wanted to give a few quick examples.

Anyhow, i'm pretty sure we should be looking at his campaign trail that has probably left ccp's mail servers full. Is it legal for a CSM candidate to spam fear mongering evemails to noob carebears in order to scare them into voting?
What about other sly/dubious techniques like providing a link named "Cast your vote!". Nothing wrong with that? The link never took you to the page full of CSM candidates, the link was to directly cast your vote for Ank. Yeah, most smart people wouldn't have accidentally clicked Accept, but bundled into the eve website's login system, it is fairly easy for someone to passively click Accept without reading what the page says.

Also, seriously, im pretty sure ank just trolled all of eve and ccp. He's probably just waiting for his free trip to iceland before he announces it.

Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
Posted - 2010.05.26 17:02:00 - [5]
 

Dude, start by watching the video...

Droog 1
Posted - 2010.05.26 17:03:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Terminal Insanity
He's probably just waiting for his free trip to iceland before he announces it.

Who is this 'he' that Ank will be taking to Iceland?

Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
Posted - 2010.05.26 17:14:00 - [7]
 

She's not going to get booted from the CSM. We get to deal with her. Fortunately, we have a bunch of sane CSMs who will shoot down anything dumb she proposes. And, in her defence, a lot of what she asks for is perfectly reasonable.

Tradesman Mcgee
Caldari
Posted - 2010.05.26 17:19:00 - [8]
 

Just set up gank squads and kill her every time she undocks in EVE instead.

HebrewBullion Excavator
Slacker Industries
Posted - 2010.05.26 17:26:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Tradesman Mcgee
Just set up gank squads and kill her every time she undocks in EVE instead.


A CSM actually playing eve, heh

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.05.26 17:29:00 - [10]
 

8 vs 1

Radgette
Posted - 2010.05.26 17:44:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Sokratesz
8 vs 1


please just stop sok i had some amount of respect for you till this csm campaign.

yes she can be annoying as hell and she makes some really stupid comments, BUT alot of what she says makes sense and adding to the PvE side of the game will remove nothing from the PvP side and tbh anything that makes grinding isk for pvp more fun gets a + in my book.

she got over 3k votes compared to the rest of you barely scrapping 1-2k apart from minxee, so she must be saying something that the playerbase agrees with.

everyone who plays eve has to PvE at some point for iskies ( well mostly ) and making this more fun or less boring is a good thing, not everyone pvps.

AterraX
Caldari
Posted - 2010.05.26 17:51:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Dude, start by watching the video...


Which one?
The one where you gives your fakes views on EVE?
Or the one where you support software pirates IRL?

Tibes Heathcliff
Posted - 2010.05.26 18:50:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: AterraX
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Dude, start by watching the video...


Which one?
The one where you gives your fakes views on EVE?
Or the one where you support software pirates IRL?


Most likely the one where it is clear that Ankhesentapemkah is a she not a he.

For OP, other than being so misinformed about basic well known fact about canidate's gender, the CSM election is over. Someone you really do not think should have been elected, did get elected.

Maybe you can file a petition with GM.

Killer Gandry
Caldari
Shadow of the Pain
Posted - 2010.05.26 19:33:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Terminal Insanity

I could have listed the many, many, maaaany reasons as to why the majority of eve think he shouldn't have gotten a single vote.


If this were so then the majority of EVE forfitted their chance to vote for someone else.

Originally by: Terminal Insanity

However, you can just browse the many, maaaany threads on here for those. I'm not about to regurgitate them all, i just wanted to give a few quick examples.


Just to be a tad clear, a lot of threads about Ankh were actually started by people who wanted to blackball her, which in turn resulted in her increased exposure during the votes.
If you want to keep a certain candidate out of the high profile you don't do so by having a lot of people starting threads about this person.

Originally by: Terminal Insanity

Anyhow, i'm pretty sure we should be looking at his campaign trail that has probably left ccp's mail servers full. Is it legal for a CSM candidate to spam fear mongering evemails to noob carebears in order to scare them into voting?
What about other sly/dubious techniques like providing a link named "Cast your vote!". Nothing wrong with that? The link never took you to the page full of CSM candidates, the link was to directly cast your vote for Ank. Yeah, most smart people wouldn't have accidentally clicked Accept, but bundled into the eve website's login system, it is fairly easy for someone to passively click Accept without reading what the page says.


Call it whatever you want, she did manage to put up a campaign which ensured her a seat in the CSM, the way she might have or not have done it is a whole other matter.
As for people just bluntly clicking accept, isn't that ONE thing you learn in EVE to get over real fast?


Originally by: Terminal Insanity

Also, seriously, im pretty sure ank just trolled all of eve and ccp. He's probably just waiting for his free trip to iceland before he announces it.


This last part clearly showed you're mainly hopping on a popular bandwagon in Ankh bashing without even knowing what you are talking about.
Atleast be a descent troll and get the gender of a CSM delegate right.

Miyamoto Isoruku
Caldari
Original Sin.
Posted - 2010.05.26 20:27:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Radgette
Originally by: Sokratesz
8 vs 1

she got over 3k votes compared to the rest of you barely scrapping 1-2k apart from minxee, so she must be saying something that the playerbase agrees with.


She got votes representing 1% of the EVE subscription base. I hardly think that shows that Ankh is "saying something that the playerbase agrees with". You're extrapolating off of insufficient data.

That said, I'm curious if Ankh would have made it had CCP used a more rational voting system, like STV.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2010.05.26 20:56:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Radgette
Originally by: Sokratesz
8 vs 1


please just stop sok i had some amount of respect for you till this csm campaign.

yes she can be annoying as hell and she makes some really stupid comments, BUT alot of what she says makes sense and adding to the PvE side of the game will remove nothing from the PvP side and tbh anything that makes grinding isk for pvp more fun gets a + in my book.

she got over 3k votes compared to the rest of you barely scrapping 1-2k apart from minxee, so she must be saying something that the playerbase agrees with.

everyone who plays eve has to PvE at some point for iskies ( well mostly ) and making this more fun or less boring is a good thing, not everyone pvps.


I think Sok's point is not that the 8 will always gang up on the 1 just because, but that if she proposes something truly stupid like "jail time for criminals!!!1" that there are 8 people who actually like the game and can play it on the CSM that can easily override it.

On the other hand sensible suggestions concerning her very limited area of expertise can be discussed and supported just like any other. I'm sure that she could make an excellent case that there are plenty of improvements that can be made to FW plexes, for instances.

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.05.26 21:22:00 - [17]
 

Malcanis uses Common Sense

++ ITS SUPER EFFECTIVE!

Shaemell Buttleson
Posted - 2010.05.26 21:27:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Shaemell Buttleson on 26/05/2010 21:27:49
Originally by: Tibes Heathcliff
Originally by: AterraX
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Dude, start by watching the video...


Which one?
The one where you gives your fakes views on EVE?
Or the one where you support software pirates IRL?


Most likely the one where it is clear that Ankhesentapemkah is a she not a he.

For OP, other than being so misinformed about basic well known fact about canidate's gender, the CSM election is over. Someone you really do not think should have been elected, did get elected.

Maybe you can file a petition with GM.




That's the point I tried to make but it went over his head.Laughing




Vinjita
Posted - 2010.05.26 21:37:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Terminal Insanity


Congratulations eve, you've managed to hire the 1 person who wants to destroy your game.




She wants to protect the game from people like you.

Killer Gandry
Caldari
Shadow of the Pain
Posted - 2010.05.26 21:41:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Miyamoto Isoruku

She got votes representing 1% of the EVE subscription base. I hardly think that shows that Ankh is "saying something that the playerbase agrees with". You're extrapolating off of insufficient data.

That said, I'm curious if Ankh would have made it had CCP used a more rational voting system, like STV.


Well, as far as I can see the 1% if the playerbase cared more about who got into the CSM than all those who didn't vote.
Basicly she representes a larger chunk of voters than all but 1 currently in the CSM.

When you want to extrapolate you should atleast be honest enough to say that a large part of the EVE voters found her suitable for a place in the CSM.
Next to that she is one of 9 people there.
It might actually be so that CSM communicate and as such come to issues to raise.

Also voting is a right, not a mandatory thing to play the game. If so many people would have minded her to get in then why have only so little voted?

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.05.26 21:46:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Sokratesz on 26/05/2010 21:46:32
Originally by: Killer Gandry


Well, as far as I can see the 1% if the playerbase cared more about who got into the CSM than all those who didn't vote.



The only reason that many bears voted for her (and that they voted *at all*) was because she spammed all the busy systems silly with lies, slander and fearmongering. She was going to 'ban all the griefers' and 'oppose all the others who want to move lvl 4's to lowsec', to name but a few slogans she used.

Resonanza
Posted - 2010.05.26 21:53:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Sokratesz
Edited by: Sokratesz on 26/05/2010 21:46:32
Originally by: Killer Gandry


Well, as far as I can see the 1% if the playerbase cared more about who got into the CSM than all those who didn't vote.



The only reason that many bears voted for her (and that they voted *at all*) was because she spammed all the busy systems silly with lies, slander and fearmongering. She was going to 'ban all the griefers' and 'oppose all the others who want to move lvl 4's to lowsec', to name but a few slogans she used.


You seem to be full of hatred. Is it your only concern and your only agenda of your CSM candidature to spill rage and insults towards another CSM who got more than 3 times the votes you got?

If so, and obsiously this is true, you are a watse as a CSM. Go on with that attitude and i am sure, you will not make it next time.

Killer Gandry
Caldari
Shadow of the Pain
Posted - 2010.05.26 22:00:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Sokratesz

The only reason that many bears voted for her (and that they voted *at all*) was because she spammed all the busy systems silly with lies, slander and fearmongering. She was going to 'ban all the griefers' and 'oppose all the others who want to move lvl 4's to lowsec', to name but a few slogans she used.


And I am 100% convinced that in your alliance nobody urged to vote for you and that you are a truthfull person with an open mind.

FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2010.05.26 22:34:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: FinnAgain Zero on 26/05/2010 22:40:35
Originally by: Resonanza

You


Quiet, alt.


Originally by: Vinjita

She


Quiet, other alt.



P.S. Guys, stop whining. Yes, Ankhybonkybonkers is manifestly unqualified for any role in EVE more complicated than "target". So play the game like CCP designed it and prove your point. We have alt-spies and locator agents for a reason.

Terminal Insanity
Minmatar
Convex Enterprises
Posted - 2010.05.26 22:41:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Terminal Insanity on 26/05/2010 22:55:40
Originally by: Tibes Heathcliff
For OP, other than being so misinformed about basic well known fact about canidate's gender, the CSM election is over. Someone you really do not think should have been elected, did get elected.

Maybe you can file a petition with GM.



Mistaken Gender? On the internets?! No way!

You throw in a harmless mistake, and present it as a reason to discredit my entire post? Then you go and point out the obvious, trying to make it seem like i didn't understand this to begin with, and then tell me to do something pointless/stupid?
Do you work for Fox News by any chance?

Anyhow...

Originally by: Killer Gandry
If this were so then the majority of EVE forfitted their chance to vote for someone else.

Not really. See what happened was, all the informed players voted for other people, and ank harvested the votes from scared newbs in newb systems/carebear mission hubs. If Ank had not been allowed to terrorize the carebears with his fearmongering evemails, he/she/it probably wouldn't have even made the backup team

Originally by: Killer Gandry
Just to be a tad clear, a lot of threads about Ankh were actually started by people who wanted to blackball her, which in turn resulted in her increased exposure during the votes.
If you want to keep a certain candidate out of the high profile you don't do so by having a lot of people starting threads about this person.

That is not what im doing here. Before the votes finsihed, i was encouraging people to vote Abstain. Now that its all settled, we can clearly see why CSM is a bit of a sham.

I find it hard to believe even 10% of the eve population wants to ban pvp'ers to nullsec. But Ank gets to speak for 10% of eve?

Originally by: Killer Gandry
Call it whatever you want, she did manage to put up a campaign which ensured her a seat in the CSM, the way she might have or not have done it is a whole other matter.
Vote fraud? lying in order to win your vote? Misleading you into clicking her vote button? "owell" ? lol i guess this is why US ended up with Bush for so long eh?


Originally by: Killer Gandry
This last part clearly showed you're mainly hopping on a popular bandwagon in Ankh bashing without even knowing what you are talking about.
Atleast be a descent troll and get the gender of a CSM delegate right.

If bashing ankh is a popular bandwagon, perhaps theres reason for it? I mean, it couldnt possibly be all the dumb **** she's said eh? Must be just a bunch of hooligans hating on poor little ankh

And again, mistaking gender on the internets.... ohnoes....

Caellach Marellus
Gallente
Nephtys Ventures inc
Posted - 2010.05.26 22:54:00 - [26]
 

I'm more concerned that a member of the CSM is going to be more focused on trying to show that another member is inept, rather than actually doing the job he was voted for.

If Ank suggest something stupid, it gets voted down as will any other stupid idea other people have. She's not the only person to suggest something utterly idiotic during this campaign either and those people got seats too, where's the tears?

Shivani
Posted - 2010.05.26 22:59:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: FinnAgain Zero
Edited by: FinnAgain Zero on 26/05/2010 22:40:35
Originally by: Resonanza

You


Quiet, alt.


Originally by: Vinjita

She


Quiet, other alt.



P.S. Guys, stop whining. Yes, Ankhybonkybonkers is manifestly unqualified for any role in EVE more complicated than "target". So play the game like CCP designed it and prove your point. We have alt-spies and locator agents for a reason.


The only one "manifestly unqualified" are you. Who are you anyway to make that Call, alt? Show yourself instead posting with your hate-infused Troll character.

FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2010.05.26 23:02:00 - [28]
 


Tellenta
Gallente
versic LLC
Posted - 2010.05.27 00:30:00 - [29]
 

I would like to recind my vote for elise and cast it for ankesthasdhfg. These threads are awesome, if this keeps up for her entire term I am so voting for her if she runs for the next one.

You guys are too funny.

Miyamoto Isoruku
Caldari
Original Sin.
Posted - 2010.05.27 00:37:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Shivani
Who are you anyway to make that Call, alt?


Translation: who are you to have an opinion?

And Ankh's supporters say we're arrogant. Rolling Eyes


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