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Frenzerelly
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:55:00 - [571]
 

Originally by: Marmios
Originally by: Frenzerelly
I've been with EVE for less then a month, and twice now you guys don't have your act together. I am not very convinced if I should keep playing this game. If it is true you guys run with MS SQL, then go figure, and consider Oracle. Also you guys should build a client for LINUX, am am sure you be doing much better. Stop feeding into MS monopoly!

Have you guys thought about reimbursing your customers if missed play time?

Very disappointing!


You can get some cookies.


Don't worry, got plenty of those, both in the pantry and on my computer, but thanks!

Sister Steal
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:55:00 - [572]
 

You want to play?

Send me all 1 million ISKs and we will release the database.

Member of the Anarchy Revolution!



quickshot89
Caldari
89th Logistics
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:57:00 - [573]
 

Originally by: Frenzerelly
I've been with EVE for less then a month, and twice now you guys don't have your act together. I am not very convinced if I should keep playing this game. If it is true you guys run with MS SQL, then go figure, and consider Oracle. Also you guys should build a client for LINUX, am am sure you be doing much better. Stop feeding into MS monopoly!

Have you guys thought about reimbursing your customers if missed play time?

Very disappointing!


0/10, if you dont like it, go back to wow, the EULA means they can do what they want, then they want. linux client is dead, stop being cheap and buy an OS??

and no, no reimbursment as they dont have to

Governor Arnie
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:57:00 - [574]
 

Originally by: Atillanz
Hey whatever you do don't pick Oracle. We have it at work and the company nearly went under cause of it! And it still sucks 18 months later. I'll take my chances and wait it out thanks. Go the engineers...


MSSQL SERVER = FAIL
ORACLE = FAIL
MYSQL = FTW???

Zora'e
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:57:00 - [575]
 

I'm interested in Harassing Navi Gattor like he harasses me. Removes an image, that is simply an image I copied from earlier in the thread and added text to it, saying it's inappropriate, yet the earlier image remained. Whats wrong Navi Gattor. You have PERSONAL issues with me? Huh cupcake?

Zenst
Hall Of Flame
Chain of Chaos
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:58:00 - [576]
 

Originally by: CCP Navigator
Following our normal scheduled downtime it was quickly discovered that the database required re-indexing. Operations completed this re-indexing successfully.

We apologize for any inconvenience that this may have caused.


Given the size thats a pretty fast re-index of all tables - impressive.

Musical Fist
Gallente
NAP Coalition
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:59:00 - [577]
 

Edited by: Musical Fist on 25/05/2010 13:59:03
Server is alive ITS ALIVE!!

xenoonex369
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:59:00 - [578]
 

oh no too much **** :)

Governor Arnie
Posted - 2010.05.25 14:03:00 - [579]
 

Originally by: Zenst
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Following our normal scheduled downtime it was quickly discovered that the database required re-indexing. Operations completed this re-indexing successfully.

We apologize for any inconvenience that this may have caused.


Given the size thats a pretty fast re-index of all tables - impressive.

They just got a new shipment in of those multicolored index tabs... Neutral

Frenkii
Posted - 2010.05.25 14:03:00 - [580]
 

Originally by: Governor Arnie
Originally by: Atillanz
Hey whatever you do don't pick Oracle. We have it at work and the company nearly went under cause of it! And it still sucks 18 months later. I'll take my chances and wait it out thanks. Go the engineers...


MSSQL SERVER = FAIL
ORACLE = FAIL
MYSQL = FTW???



I have't heard about MYSQL being used in a large bank database, where there is even higher amount of transactions per second then in EVE, plus MYSQL is now owned by Oracle, so what will be the future of it.

Modahn Etch
Posted - 2010.05.25 14:03:00 - [581]
 

And then...

deadthread.

Boschenaar
Posted - 2010.05.25 14:04:00 - [582]
 

Learned my lesson, did set up 20+ days skill on both accounts before the new patch.

Good luck on the patching tomorrow, feed the hamsters some extra and see you in an improved virtual space soon.
Keep up the good work CCP and make this game even better then it already is. Cool

Lordand master
Posted - 2010.05.25 14:05:00 - [583]
 

What ever happened to the CCP transparency?

Correct me if i am wrong but CCP used to say what the problem was in detail and what was being done to solve it. When did that stop? Now-days they just say: "the server is going to be down for some time" as if we can't find that out by running the game...

Anyone remember when they had problems breaking 20,000 players mark and had to go on stackless python? What happened? Went from days with almost open source kind of explanation of what was wrong and what measures were taken, to dispensing "statements and answers in a can".

Doesn't just stop at development team, customer service took a dive as well. Few days ago my ship was destroyed by a griever and there was no CONCORD. I appealed the whole issue and, in about 3 minutes, received the "we'll look into it" response followed by closing of the petition. You would think they would toss an update my way on what that investigation was doing or anything since petition was not resolved instead of closing it.

Don't like the way this is, not one bit.

I would not be at all surprised if CCP Navigator was just some sort of a CCP customer relations spokesmen and not in any way part of the development team, given the details he provided us. Hell, if someone walked into the building the receptionist would be more informative.

Then again, maybe my hopes are still high and it is a bot.

Intoagun Deshana
Minmatar
Sentinel Eradicators of Doom
Posted - 2010.05.25 14:05:00 - [584]
 

What do you think about the 20 pages of text about this short DT? You all are dorks. Razz

Jake Amsen
Posted - 2010.05.25 14:05:00 - [585]
 

Originally by: shefupity
CCP should calculate the amount of time lost by the players when the servers are offline and extend account activation with that time. 1 h every day + patches = less time for players to play . And i think all of us pay 30 days of game play but we have available 28 days. How about CCP make this updates and maintenance on their money not ours ?!!


Actually, the EULA says there is no warranty or guarantee of 100% uptime. Therefore, the price you pay INCLUDES server maintenance and unscheduled downtimes. If you want 100% uptime, the price would increase.

I agree that anyone who wants to cry about what a poor job CCP does has two options:
1. Cancel your subscription and leave permanently, or
2. Build a better MMO yourself and become a hero to gamers worldwide. Put up or shutup.

Seriously.

Zora'e
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2010.05.25 14:06:00 - [586]
 

*snip* You posted an inappropriate image and then questioned the moderator who removed that image. If you have an issue with your post being moderated, take it up with CCP via a petition. Shadow.

Rena Drhgool
Posted - 2010.05.25 14:14:00 - [587]
 

Originally by: stiflerDK
Originally by: killerkeano
Edited by: killerkeano on 25/05/2010 12:47:47
You guys really take the joke sometimes. this isn't really a suprise. and it will only get worse.

A 5 year old child would be able to tell that the current server is poor in terms of performance, last night for example the entire region of detorid was unplayable in. for no reason whatsoever. Fleet fights are impossible due to lag, there a still mny bugs in the game.

yet here you are adding planets and more strain on the already struggling server. I know you have a graphics team with salaries and noting to do, sack them, get more engineers to fix the damn thing you have now first.

As for dust, again more aditions to the game it doesn't need, if we wanted to play a fps game we'd go play COD or halo. which will dominate this market and DUST will be a flop. stop being greedy CCP think about current players instead of trying more and more ways to bring in new players. you send me 4 emails every month asking why 4 of my accounts have not been renewed, and all these offers. They will stay cancelled until you provide a stable and playable server for large alliances living in 0.0.

no one i know in the game gives a toss about planets and are only concerned with having a better performing server. Listen to your players for once instead of the guy in accounts going, well we got all these graphics designers and we need more subsciptions.

do us all a favour delay this crap expansion and fix the terrible laggy performance of the current server before ADDING MORE STRAIN ON AN ALREADY STRUGGLING SERVER


THISRolling Eyes




this

Dominatus Crispus
Nation of Muppets
Posted - 2010.05.25 14:25:00 - [588]
 

Originally by: 5n4keyes
Looks like Dominion, is ending pretty much the same way it started, and continued...
qftw! /thread

Merasa Tro
Posted - 2010.05.25 14:26:00 - [589]
 

Originally by: Rena Drhgool
Originally by: stiflerDK
Originally by: killerkeano
Edited by: killerkeano on 25/05/2010 12:47:47

stuff about fixing lag, then...

no one i know in the game gives a toss about planets and are only concerned with having a better performing server. Listen to your players for once instead of the guy in accounts going, well we got all these graphics designers and we need more subsciptions.

do us all a favour delay this crap expansion and fix the terrible laggy performance of the current server before ADDING MORE STRAIN ON AN ALREADY STRUGGLING SERVER


THISRolling Eyes




this


Just to offer a counter argument, for balance and impartiality.

No one I know gives a damn about 500v500 fleet fights, soverignity, alliance wars. We're looking forward to see what PI delivers.

Rhedea
Rhedea Corp
Posted - 2010.05.25 14:27:00 - [590]
 

I hope after the patch I can play with the new computer win7 64 bit ati 5970 12gb ram Surprised

Sweatsock
Posted - 2010.05.25 15:06:00 - [591]
 

Originally by: Governor Arnie
Originally by: Atillanz
Hey whatever you do don't pick Oracle. We have it at work and the company nearly went under cause of it! And it still sucks 18 months later. I'll take my chances and wait it out thanks. Go the engineers...


MSSQL SERVER = FAIL
ORACLE = FAIL
MYSQL = FTW???


MS Access DB imo

Karadan Kaarwen
Posted - 2010.05.25 15:12:00 - [592]
 

Originally by: TriadSte

See theres your problem your blind.

Yes Eve is a awesome game, WHEN it works.

CCP Do not SUCCESSFULLY Administer the game.

The OCCASIONAL glitch, Seriously.......occasionally? Are you real? Your having a giraffe.

Youve hit one nail on the head however, yes we do PAY to get f*cked around, sorry I meant to play the game...


Punctuation, grammar and common sense fail.

CCP Navigator


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2010.05.25 15:36:00 - [593]
 

Originally by: Lordand master
What ever happened to the CCP transparency?

Correct me if i am wrong but CCP used to say what the problem was in detail and what was being done to solve it. When did that stop? Now-days they just say: "the server is going to be down for some time" as if we can't find that out by running the game...

Anyone remember when they had problems breaking 20,000 players mark and had to go on stackless python? What happened? Went from days with almost open source kind of explanation of what was wrong and what measures were taken, to dispensing "statements and answers in a can".

Doesn't just stop at development team, customer service took a dive as well. Few days ago my ship was destroyed by a griever and there was no CONCORD. I appealed the whole issue and, in about 3 minutes, received the "we'll look into it" response followed by closing of the petition. You would think they would toss an update my way on what that investigation was doing or anything since petition was not resolved instead of closing it.

Don't like the way this is, not one bit.

I would not be at all surprised if CCP Navigator was just some sort of a CCP customer relations spokesmen and not in any way part of the development team, given the details he provided us. Hell, if someone walked into the building the receptionist would be more informative.

Then again, maybe my hopes are still high and it is a bot.


Community simply report the details provided to us from Operations when Tranquility is experiencing difficulties. While I appreciate that people want to be kept updated, I am not going to go down the road of simply making posts which are not factually correct which would be much worse.

In this instance it was discovered that the database needed to be re-indexed in order for Tranquility to perform in the correct state. Once this was discovered the fix took place very quickly and the server rebooted as quickly as we could.

Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2010.05.25 15:53:00 - [594]
 

Originally by: Merasa Tro
Originally by: Rena Drhgool
Originally by: stiflerDK
Originally by: killerkeano
Edited by: killerkeano on 25/05/2010 12:47:47

stuff about fixing lag, then...

no one i know in the game gives a toss about planets and are only concerned with having a better performing server. Listen to your players for once instead of the guy in accounts going, well we got all these graphics designers and we need more subsciptions.

do us all a favour delay this crap expansion and fix the terrible laggy performance of the current server before ADDING MORE STRAIN ON AN ALREADY STRUGGLING SERVER


THISRolling Eyes




this


Just to offer a counter argument, for balance and impartiality.

No one I know gives a damn about 500v500 fleet fights, soverignity, alliance wars. We're looking forward to see what PI delivers.
Ah, one of the great disconnects in EVE.

In fact, PI-related activities may be directly tied to alliance and sovereignty wars since there are control tower and POS module BPOs on the market in Singularity. And all of those blue prints require planet-derived materials.

Also keep in mind all of the goods and materials that are consumed during wars. Thousands of tech 2-fit battleships, for example, have been blown up over the past couple of months in the North. That translates into tremendous potential for industry-inclined players regardless of affiliation and location.

TriadSte
Gallente
Posted - 2010.05.25 16:13:00 - [595]
 

Originally by: CCP Navigator
Community simply report the details provided to us from Operations when Tranquility is experiencing difficulties. While I appreciate that people want to be kept updated, I am not going to go down the road of simply making posts which are not factually correct which would be much worse.

In this instance it was discovered that the database needed to be re-indexed in order for Tranquility to perform in the correct state. Once this was discovered the fix took place very quickly and the server rebooted as quickly as we could.



Why did it take 2 hours 30 or so minutes to figure that out?

I think that yes indeed we don't get enough info from CCP at all we just get the same old copy paste "sorry blah blah blah" and it is copy and paste theres no meaning to it at all. This alone annoys us.

Also why re-indexed? Isnt this one of the functions that happens in Downtime anyway?

People blame computers, computers are controlled my humans FACT. Therefore who is to blame?

Agent Unknown
Caldari
Posted - 2010.05.25 16:38:00 - [596]
 

Originally by: Rena Drhgool
Originally by: stiflerDK
Originally by: killerkeano
Edited by: killerkeano on 25/05/2010 12:47:47
You guys really take the joke sometimes. this isn't really a suprise. and it will only get worse.

A 5 year old child would be able to tell that the current server is poor in terms of performance, last night for example the entire region of detorid was unplayable in. for no reason whatsoever. Fleet fights are impossible due to lag, there a still mny bugs in the game.

yet here you are adding planets and more strain on the already struggling server. I know you have a graphics team with salaries and noting to do, sack them, get more engineers to fix the damn thing you have now first.

As for dust, again more aditions to the game it doesn't need, if we wanted to play a fps game we'd go play COD or halo. which will dominate this market and DUST will be a flop. stop being greedy CCP think about current players instead of trying more and more ways to bring in new players. you send me 4 emails every month asking why 4 of my accounts have not been renewed, and all these offers. They will stay cancelled until you provide a stable and playable server for large alliances living in 0.0.

no one i know in the game gives a toss about planets and are only concerned with having a better performing server. Listen to your players for once instead of the guy in accounts going, well we got all these graphics designers and we need more subsciptions.

do us all a favour delay this crap expansion and fix the terrible laggy performance of the current server before ADDING MORE STRAIN ON AN ALREADY STRUGGLING SERVER


THISRolling Eyes




this


If your accounts weren't subbed, how are you posting? ugh

Bandit Darville
Posted - 2010.05.25 16:43:00 - [597]
 

Well Jake ole boy, everyone is entitled to there own opinion, If you don't agree its as you said:

Option 1 . Move on and let people have there point of view Idea

Option 2 . Shut up and put upShocked

Option 3 . Play something else Sad

I recommend option 1. for best results Laughing





Originally by: Jake Amsen
Originally by: shefupity
CCP should calculate the amount of time lost by the players when the servers are offline and extend account activation with that time. 1 h every day + patches = less time for players to play . And i think all of us pay 30 days of game play but we have available 28 days. How about CCP make this updates and maintenance on their money not ours ?!!


Actually, the EULA says there is no warranty or guarantee of 100% uptime. Therefore, the price you pay INCLUDES server maintenance and unscheduled downtimes. If you want 100% uptime, the price would increase.

I agree that anyone who wants to cry about what a poor job CCP does has two options:
1. Cancel your subscription and leave permanently, or
2. Build a better MMO yourself and become a hero to gamers worldwide. Put up or shutup.

Seriously.


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