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SleepingBuddah
Posted - 2010.05.23 12:48:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: SleepingBuddah on 23/05/2010 16:21:44
My main was around 1000, now 5000+

Anyone else suffered?

edit: I mean people who was top 100 now far from top 500

CCP Shadow


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2010.05.23 15:34:00 - [2]
 

Off-topic posts removed. You may want to clarify what you mean by "BC" here.

Ifly Uwalk
Caldari
Concentrated Evil
Posted - 2010.05.23 15:37:00 - [3]
 

I only have BC at 4. Embarassed How do you get 1000? Shocked

Ifly

GPerson
Gallente
Firebird Squadron
Terra-Incognita
Posted - 2010.05.23 15:51:00 - [4]
 

...what?

SleepingBuddah
Posted - 2010.05.23 16:22:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: CCP Shadow
Off-topic posts removed. You may want to clarify what you mean by "BC" here.


BC stands for BattleClinic

Ikoras
Minmatar
Final Agony
B A N E
Posted - 2010.05.23 16:26:00 - [6]
 

Battle Clinic has been ****ing me off as of late. Posting of KM's with nothing but NPC's on em and I even have one of a rookie ship that I ejected out of on one day it it got popped on the day after on there.

Jesslyn Daggererux
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
The 0rphanage
Posted - 2010.05.23 17:56:00 - [7]
 

when you eject from a ship it still belongs to you. sort of like how when you eject a shuttle from a ship maint bay it belongs to you. and then you eject 80 of them on jita undock and they all get destroyed by a gm and you get 80 SCC insurance mails and a letter to stop greifing the node.

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2010.05.23 19:24:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: SleepingBuddah
Edited by: SleepingBuddah on 23/05/2010 16:21:44
My main was around 1000, now 5000+

Anyone else suffered?

edit: I mean people who was top 100 now far from top 500
why should we care about a sucky killboard?

Lilith Velkor
Minmatar
Heretic Army
B A N E
Posted - 2010.05.23 20:40:00 - [9]
 

There is something on their forums about them recalculating kill points, so give it a few days before going into panic mode.

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2010.05.23 21:13:00 - [10]
 

Thanks for posting this in C&P.

tomd741
Best Path Inc.
Posted - 2010.05.23 22:20:00 - [11]
 

Battle clinic has always sucked. When I first started my 2nd month showed I had 10 kills. I lol b/c I had no kills and had died 3 times. Yeah, it sucks.

Jessica Verne
Minute to Midnight
Posted - 2010.05.24 04:37:00 - [12]
 

Yes. But to be more specific, it has ALWAYS sucked, along with how most Killboards try to assert any kind of a rating/top board/etc.

They do it based off pure, ok, not pure, but close to pure # of kills vs # of losses.

This means someone who is by most people's perception an *amazing* PVPer will still be rated "under" an active pilot in a big alliance who get into big fights, aka NC vs. IT/ROL/Init.

Its not to say those pilots aren't good that are rated high under this sytem, its just that the system has a huge blind eye to the pilots who spend more time roaming around solo/small gangs, pull off amazing kills-- often out numbered, etc. Those pilots end up being the 'better pilots' at least imo, but will not be ranked very high since a big fleet fight might get you 15, 30, 50 kills in a couple hours vs the soloers 2, 4, 7 kills. To those pilots, losing a single ship can drop them big time, whereas the pilot with thousands of kills over a long period can afford to loose a couple from time to time and maintain rank.

Af far as current events, you will always drop in rank when i big conflict, that producing huge fights (especially capital fights) as the lemmings will be getting kill points in BULK and just due to natural odds (and not necessarily pilot skill) will loose less ships.

Laedy
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.05.24 08:56:00 - [13]
 

Try this:

http://www.eve-arena.com/


It has a much better ranking/points system imo.

SFShootme
The Carebear Stare
Hydroponic Zone
Posted - 2010.05.24 15:56:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Laedy
Try this:

http://www.eve-arena.com/


It has a much better ranking/points system imo.


that's missing like 80% of my kills

Jack Dant
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.05.24 16:11:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Jessica Verne
This means someone who is by most people's perception an *amazing* PVPer will still be rated "under" an active pilot in a big alliance who get into big fights, aka NC vs. IT/ROL/Init.


You are wrong. The ranking system BC used until this week rewarded solo/small gang kills over blob kills. Comparing my points as a small gang pilot with a 0.0 pvper with pretty much the same number of kills/losses, I have seven times more points.

We'll see how the new rankings work. From what I've seen so far, you take a huge point penalty if NPCs are on the killmail. In lowsec, that will hurt belt PVPers vs gatecampers.

Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
Posted - 2010.05.24 17:33:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: SFShootme
Originally by: Laedy
Try this:

http://www.eve-arena.com/


It has a much better ranking/points system imo.


that's missing like 80% of my kills


I synced my killboard with that a month ago and it's still missing most of my kills. Even sillier, the total points score it gives me is substantially less than the sum of points for my kills that were awarded 40 points or more.

Sense, it makes none...

Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
Posted - 2010.05.24 23:36:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Gypsio III
I synced my killboard with that a month ago and it's still missing most of my kills.


Preety much the same, I assume there is a decent backlog of killboards to be synced with it and it's still in beta stage so I'm not going to go hard on it, but as of this time it's not overly functional.

Admiral Pelleon
White Shadow Imperium
Posted - 2010.05.25 00:27:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: CCP Shadow
Off-topic posts removed. You may want to clarify what you mean by "BC" here.


Damn you.

Shadowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

RasTrent
Private Nuisance
Segregati0n
Posted - 2010.05.25 03:10:00 - [19]
 

dunno im banned from battle clinic.. something about posting fake kill mails.

Cartheron Crust
Matari Exodus
Posted - 2010.05.25 03:54:00 - [20]
 

So what you are saying is CCP should remove killmails from the game.

If so I approve this message and/or service. Also may I subscribe to your newsletter?

Sherringford Hovis
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams
The KWFL Republic
Posted - 2010.05.25 08:27:00 - [21]
 

Seems the new rating system favoured me, I went up approx 60,000 places overnight!

Robert Caldera
Posted - 2010.05.25 09:37:00 - [22]
 

it seems NPC damage relation to your damage is used for point gain calculation. In other words if you kill a ratter who tanked 238923492 zillion damage before you kill him, you get some like 0.000001 point on BC. Pretty sick calculation schema IMO.

SFX Bladerunner
Minmatar
Aperture Science inc.
Posted - 2010.05.25 09:47:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: SleepingBuddah

BattleClinic rating borked?


Battleclinic = FAIL

I REALLY don't understand why ppl still use itShocked.

Jack Dant
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.05.25 09:53:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: SFX Bladerunner
Originally by: SleepingBuddah

BattleClinic rating borked?


Battleclinic = FAIL

I REALLY don't understand why ppl still use itShocked.


It's the data. Battleclinic has the largest archive of killmails of all the public killboards. They've been around for a long time, and it doesn't look like they will go away any time soon.

Eve-kill, for example, only has 30% of the kills for my corp BC does. And let's not even go into eve-arena. And that's despite both having our killboard feed.

SFX Bladerunner
Minmatar
Aperture Science inc.
Posted - 2010.05.25 10:00:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Jack Dant
Originally by: SFX Bladerunner
Originally by: SleepingBuddah

BattleClinic rating borked?


Battleclinic = FAIL

I REALLY don't understand why ppl still use itShocked.


It's the data. Battleclinic has the largest archive of killmails of all the public killboards. They've been around for a long time, and it doesn't look like they will go away any time soon.

Eve-kill, for example, only has 30% of the kills for my corp BC does. And let's not even go into eve-arena. And that's despite both having our killboard feed.


That's funny, for me it's the other way aroundRolling Eyes

EVE Kill has ALL my recorded kills (albeit the earliest kills are incomplete (thnx CCP!)) and battleclinic misses around 50 - 100 of them.
Also I hate battleclinic kill layout, you have (had) to log in to view a kill (WTF?) and BC won't provide a feed for eve kill (ok I can understand that if they are competitors, but every single other kb is cool enough to atleast share the kills xcept for BC)

I dunno, I guess it's sorta the same thing like me prefering intel over AMD, or Nvidia over ATI.

Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
Posted - 2010.05.25 10:58:00 - [26]
 

I only really trust my personal KB on griefwatch although somehow on BC I have more kills, strange really.

Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
Posted - 2010.05.25 11:57:00 - [27]
 

God knows what they're doing on the BC ranking system, I've gone from 230ish to 2500.

Robert Caldera
Posted - 2010.05.25 12:44:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: Robert Caldera on 25/05/2010 12:44:33
Originally by: Gypsio III
God knows what they're doing on the BC ranking system, I've gone from 230ish to 2500.


your points are calculated dependently on your damage related to total damage taken (incl NPC).

Vrabac
Zawa's Fan Club
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:20:00 - [29]
 

Yep, been 68th or 69th before this. Just checked, plummeted down to 1340, think I was 1030 or so yesterday. I'm sure failing fast. Smile

Zeta Zhul
Caldari
Preemptive Paranoia
Posted - 2010.05.25 14:51:00 - [30]
 

*shrug* I don't know why CCP doesn't simply add another API for killmails and allow KB to access that API to update their boards. That would get rid of the whole "fake KM" nonsense.


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