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Digital Solaris
Posted - 2010.05.25 09:25:00 - [121]
 

Makes sense to have it for logistical reasons if you are part of a alliance, not so much if you are not.

I'll opt-out as I can't be arsed to use it and I don't give a flying toss about it.

Wacktopia
Sicarius.
Legion of The Damned.
Posted - 2010.05.25 11:23:00 - [122]
 

Originally by: hired goon
Is anyone excited about this new feature? It seems pretty cool to me, but I can only see it being used by people at work (who can't run/install eve on their work machine) and people on the move (who can't run eve on their netbook/smartphone).


HELLO \o/

khendro
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.05.25 11:42:00 - [123]
 

EVE GATE is quite disappointing at the moment.

It would be useful if it had the following features:

- Add skills to the skill queue.
- Corp/Alliance forum when you create a corp/alliance, it automatically generates a public/private forum where your corpmembers can discuss stuff.
- Integrated killboard which can't be tampered with. I've seen plenty of corps who delete loss mails just so they can brag about killboard efficiency, but challenge them to a fair fight and they'll dock up until they outnumber you 5-1.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.05.25 11:51:00 - [124]
 

Originally by: khendro
- Add skills to the skill queue.
Never going to happen.
Quote:
- Corp/Alliance forum when you create a corp/alliance, it automatically generates a public/private forum where your corpmembers can discuss stuff.
This was in the plans as originally presented whether it actually ever shows up is a different matter.
Quote:
- Integrated killboard which can't be tampered with. I've seen plenty of corps who delete loss mails just so they can brag about killboard efficiency, but challenge them to a fair fight and they'll dock up until they outnumber you 5-1.
Well hey, this is EVE.
<EVE stock phrases>
If you're in a fair fight, you're doing it wrong.
If the odds are even, it's because the other guy's backup hasn't arrived yet.
There are lots of 1-on-1:s to be had you just have to kill the other 20 guys first.
</EVE stock phrases>

Wink

Zora'e
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2010.05.25 11:57:00 - [125]
 

Originally by: Tippia
[
<EVE stock phrases>
If you're in a fair fight, you're doing it wrong.
If the odds are even, it's because the other guy's backup hasn't arrived yet.
There are lots of 1-on-1:s to be had you just have to kill the other 20 guys first.
</EVE stock phrases>

Wink

rofl LaughingLaughingLaughing

Stormmaster Neptunius
Gallente
Posted - 2010.05.25 23:17:00 - [126]
 

Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: khendro
- Add skills to the skill queue.
Never going to happen.
Wink

I thought I used to read about changing skill training via Evegate. Just rechecked the feature page, right, it says "check skills", not "change skills". It means the thing poses less threat and it makes me feel better. I will probably not rush to disable everything in the first hour, but do it a bit later.

Widemouth Deepthroat
Posted - 2010.05.26 00:49:00 - [127]
 

I think event calender is one of the only feature I really like about this expansion (though our alliance forum already have event calender with local timer anyway).


Blasphemour
Posted - 2010.05.26 11:34:00 - [128]
 

Man... the tears are heavy in this topic... don't drown in your tears people, it's just a spaceships under water game.
Throwing with laws and regulations would be in place when your real life information would be published. This is NOT the case. Your EVE information could be accessible to people you have set to +10 standings. So friggin' what? It's just names people... names! It's not like your complete relations to those people will be public or anything.
Talking about crawlers and spiders is bull...'droppings' as well... did you set them to +10? Yes? well tough luck, apparently the one you've trusted enough to give +10 standings wasn't too trustworthy after all.

Stop crying as if your bank account, phone book and f*** all is gonna be published, it's some random information about in-game contacts that doesn't mean...stuff...

I'm sure I will use EVE-gate a lot, it sounds like a very cool tool that can have many uses, especially for CEO's and officers of a corp/alliance.
The calender is a great asset to have available out of game. If you are leading an event and you need to quickly postpone it, just update it in the calender and everyone is aware it will start later.


Zey Nadar
Gallente
Unknown Soldiers
Posted - 2010.05.26 11:37:00 - [129]
 

Edited by: Zey Nadar on 26/05/2010 13:46:53
Edited by: Zey Nadar on 26/05/2010 13:46:41
I havent even looked at this thing yet, and the only thing that I would like (not sure if its in or not) is reading evemailbox out of game and maybe sending messages...

I am hardly excited as I dont know if its a bird or a fish..

EDIT: since the forum is crapped up, Im going to respond to below post in here:
Originally by: B1FF

Logic Fail. If high sec mission running wasn't meant to be played then the devs wouldn't have included it.

Please don't make the mistake of asuming your playstyle is the only valid playstyle.


But it obviously has an undesirable effect that they are addressing with some changes?

Hanns Spree
Posted - 2010.05.26 11:54:00 - [130]
 

I'll definitely use it. Keep tabs on things when I'm not able to play. Either from work, friends homes, family, some guy' laptop using McDonald's free wifi. If I can hit the internet...I'll be checking on things. Those that don't use it just free up bandwidth for the likes of me. Thanks! Wink

Enik3
Posted - 2010.05.26 13:25:00 - [131]
 

Edited by: Enik3 on 26/05/2010 13:28:07
I sure will. I love the idea of being able to check email when I'm traveling or not in the mood to boot up the client.

It does need the ability to manipulate the skill queue to make it really valuable though.

S'Way
Posted - 2010.05.26 13:40:00 - [132]
 

Will use it once - like many others here to turn everything private and then forget it even exists.

Opt-out for anything is frankly a very bad customer service design for when companies launch something they know people won't otherwise use normally.

My guess is the plans went like this:-

1. Invent new shiny few want because "social-networking is all the rage these days".
2. Realise it'll be a 5 minute wonder (like faction-warfare was at the start), so make it opt-out to give it the biggest user number possible and claim it's a success.
3. Continue to make Dust console only at the start - something PC users actually DO want.
4. Keep adding new shiny stuff to get new players...instead of actually fixing the broken stuff in the game currrently. (server stability+ socket closed issues would be a start).

Is it really too much to ask for fixes to current problems before new stuff that causes more is added ?

Intoagun Deshana
Minmatar
Sentinel Eradicators of Doom
Posted - 2010.05.26 13:44:00 - [133]
 

I know I will use it, I am always working and sometime I will want to plan something with my friends and still keep my schedule with work. Not to mention keep my boyfriend on a sleeping schedule. ugh

Lord Roshan
The Synergy
Cascade Probable
Posted - 2010.05.26 13:45:00 - [134]
 

I'll be using EVE Gate.

Blasphemour
Posted - 2010.05.26 14:08:00 - [135]
 

Edited by: Blasphemour on 26/05/2010 14:08:51
Originally by: S'Way

3. Continue to make Dust console only at the start - something I actually DO want.



Fixed that for you

Sedilis
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
Posted - 2010.05.26 14:18:00 - [136]
 

Originally by: hired goon
Are you going to use Eve-gate?


Yes

Mantees
Gallente
Posted - 2010.05.26 14:20:00 - [137]
 

I will be using it when I will be able to check from work how my trades are going

Delorean Alba
Posted - 2010.05.26 14:32:00 - [138]
 

I'll use it just to turn it offRolling Eyes

Taram Caldar
Royal Black Watch Highlanders
Warped Aggression
Posted - 2010.05.26 15:05:00 - [139]
 

Edited by: Taram Caldar on 26/05/2010 15:05:53
I'll be setting it to max security but I'll still use it to check eve-mail from my phone when I can't be online. And probably to check calendars if the in-game calendars feed into it.

As a CEO I think it'll be an invaluable tool to keep me connected to my corp members when I can't be online. As a player I think the silliness with giving anyone access to any of your information without making it opt-in is a mistake on CCP's part.

SELKERUS
Posted - 2010.05.26 15:55:00 - [140]
 

Response to OP: No.

Reason: I like to seperate the time i spend playing games from the rest of my life. Dont feel the need to merge the two any more than i currently do.

Exception: Use once to turn it off as much as possible

Opinion: Security (from an in game perspective), well as i go by the rule Trust No-one until (a)you have spoken to them at length on voice coms (b) know something about them in real life (c) possibly have met them and thier family - then introducing this as an Opt In feature is ( as has been pointed out) a disingenuous approach.
Allowing people with +10 standings to view your address book means nothing as it is just a list of characters - being part of a large 0.0 alliance means having no control over this, which seems a little strange as you would think an address book is an inherently private thing.

Any information i have ( or think i have ) about this feature has been gained from forum posts. I accept, therefore, that i may have based an opinion on incorrect or incomplete data. As the facts ( as i know them ) change, so might my opinion.

DTMKnight
Posted - 2010.05.26 16:06:00 - [141]
 

I will use it and I'm guessing EVE Gate may be used to link people who will have accounts for both EVE and Dust 514. This way you will have one convenient location to manage accounts for two games that are not linked otherwise.

Promu
Minmatar
Strategic Syndicate
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2010.05.26 16:12:00 - [142]
 

Inserts witty comment about how lame eve gate will be in order to get acceptance from my forum peers and sound cool, even though i will probably use it.

Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
Posted - 2010.05.26 16:26:00 - [143]
 

Social Networking sites are so manipulative to the very bone of human relations...

Why would they assume that I would want even my closest friends to know who my other friends are?

Why put me in a position where if I want to test (or even feign) closeness to someone and treat them like a close friend when I still have apprhensions about them I need to either give them a rejection (thwarting the development of situational trust) or introduce them to details of my life (other friends and family) that I may never be willing to share with them.

Its just a dumb assumption that I want my friends to know who my other friends are , in real life and in the game. I can get into the deeper political issues (mcarthyism?) and social issues (mild excummication of radical minded people who you would prefer not to be publically associated with- Gays if you are otherwise a trusted member of a Mormon community?)... but I'm not sure I'm eloquent enought to express them... previous attempts have failed.

Nagal Sombre
Posted - 2010.05.26 16:57:00 - [144]
 

Is there a link or a "how to disable" so i can turn it off as soon as it is launched? I'm a bit picky about internet security, i see everyday the catastrophic result of a poor security understanding.

This doesn't mean i won't use it taught in the future, depend on the quality of the service. Maybe being able to change my skill queue would be a nice first step to even look in it Rolling Eyes

shady trader
Posted - 2010.05.26 20:56:00 - [145]
 

Originally by: Nagal Sombre
Is there a link or a "how to disable" so i can turn it off as soon as it is launched? I'm a bit picky about internet security, i see everyday the catastrophic result of a poor security understanding.

This doesn't mean i won't use it taught in the future, depend on the quality of the service. Maybe being able to change my skill queue would be a nice first step to even look in it Rolling Eyes


Yes and no.
CCP in there infinite wisdom have enabled sharing by default, then throttled the number of account that can sign up at any one time to manage the load. One you allowed to sign in you select your character and then your can got to setting and change each of the 3 privacy setting to block every one. You then change characters and do it all over again, once the characters on the account are done you log off and change accounts.

There is no one master opt out, so as CCP release new Features to enhance your social experience or they decide to do a facebook and try to make the security controls to complex to allow you to protect your data, you will have to do it all over again.

Looking at evegate gate its already hit the max number accounts it will currently support.

Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
Posted - 2010.05.26 23:07:00 - [146]
 

Yes, I just used it to set all info sharing to "OFF"

Also: New corp logos suck. Bye

Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
Posted - 2010.05.26 23:19:00 - [147]
 

Quote:

Talking about crawlers and spiders is bull...'droppings' as well... did you set them to +10? Yes? well tough luck, apparently the one you've trusted enough to give +10 standings wasn't too trustworthy after all.



Your lack of consideration for the *principle* of priority of customers privacy (however minimal the effects are) is appalling. Voted Bush?

You could not even *use* some facilities without +10 standings.

It was also quite hard to even see those *outside the old address book* who got standings in years of playing. When one goes from multiple 0.0 to low sec corps and back - and on several accounts - the amount of "garbage" builds up very fast.

People already got an hard bone with their supercaps getting in probe space, it was not necessary to also broadcast their out of corp-yet-ble JF / mission alts at the same time.

Furthermore, while I reset standings before the expansion, there are thousands out in the military or who just are not forum trolls who had no chance to even know about this genius opt out.

Guillame Herschel
Gallente
NME1
Posted - 2010.05.26 23:29:00 - [148]
 

Originally by: Ella C'Tronix
I can see zero downsides to not having to wait 10 minutes for the slow ass client to login just to check your evemail.


From Concord and Pend. Goody.

Revii Lagoon
The Foreign Legion
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2010.05.27 00:01:00 - [149]
 

I'm a bit curious as to why EVE Gate was implemented in the first place. From the replies of this thread, most people want to opt-out, including myself. In its current state all you can do is check mail, calender, and edit your spacebook status. I also hate how the new default browser page is EVE gate, I liked the old news site a whole lot better because why would you even want to log onto EVE gate if you were already logged onto EVE.


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