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hired goon
Posted - 2010.05.23 11:35:00 - [1]
 

Is anyone excited about this new feature? It seems pretty cool to me, but I can only see it being used by people at work (who can't run/install eve on their work machine) and people on the move (who can't run eve on their netbook/smartphone).

Also, I've always been kinda embarrassed by the idea of Eve-gate being a 'social network' - because Eve is 95% male, so even logging on would make me feel like a complete loser. Well, more of a loser.

What about everyone else? Are you going to use Eve-gate?

Berneh
LEGI0N
Everto Rex Regis
Posted - 2010.05.23 11:48:00 - [2]
 

Yep i'll use it.

whatever it is...


Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.05.23 11:52:00 - [3]
 

Yes.

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2010.05.23 11:54:00 - [4]
 

I will use it, only once.

And that will be to disable all the public settings to private.

Lets all overload eve gate servers just to do this on launch day. Its going to fail day 1.

Tecch
Posted - 2010.05.23 11:54:00 - [5]
 

If they allowed skill changing throught it then everyone would.


Gabriel Angelus
Amarr
Local-Spike
Posted - 2010.05.23 11:55:00 - [6]
 

If it works as expected i fully intend to use it.

Elenoe
Posted - 2010.05.23 12:01:00 - [7]
 

Not THAT excited :) Based on current alfa (beta maybe?) version it looks like wasted CCP resources for me. I will use it as you stated. For "offline" viewing calendar (very good feature... the only one I found) and mails when I cannot log in. The very bad thing is, that add this feature into API would be more then sufficient (current inability to retrieve mails body is...). Many people are using API for offline control their account (EveHQ f.e.) And in the moment EveHQ (and others) will annects calendar ability I'm afraid I'm going to not use EVE Gate at all.

Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
Posted - 2010.05.23 12:22:00 - [8]
 

The calendar seems like a convenient way of keeping customers informed.

iP0D
Posted - 2010.05.23 12:46:00 - [9]
 

I'll use it once, to turn it off.

I have no interest in yet another cumbersome instrument designed to engage me in social networking or replace out of game mechanisms (forums, comms, blogs, etc) with which it will never be able to compete simply because that requires a dedicated constant allocation of resources that cannot match what subscribers themselves come up with.

To get old buddies who have quit back to playing, there's much more efficient methods like convincing them that it is worth it based on quality and experiences.


Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network
Dignitas.
Posted - 2010.05.23 12:59:00 - [10]
 

I might use it, if CCP decides to default the sharing access to "No pilots" on launch.

Musical Fist
Gallente
NAP Coalition
Posted - 2010.05.23 13:02:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Musical Fist on 23/05/2010 13:19:52
I am not sure about what benefits it gives, I will probably try it out and quite possibly will like it though I dont think atm it will serve little benefit to me.

But then again CCP tend to not advertise new stuff as much as they could and their uses so I have a feeling like everything else eve gate will be resourceful and benefit everyone

Rebal 88
Minmatar
Black Ice Protectorate
The Imperial Senate
Posted - 2010.05.23 13:19:00 - [12]
 

I'll use it.

Extraho Rector
Posted - 2010.05.23 14:05:00 - [13]
 

I still say it should've been called Spacebook and it'd be used more.

Ex

RedLion
Caldari
State Constructions
Posted - 2010.05.23 14:13:00 - [14]
 

they don't allow skill change lol?

That was the only thing i would use it for.

Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente
Shadow Templars
Posted - 2010.05.23 14:22:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 23/05/2010 14:23:02

Originally by: hired goon
Is anyone excited about this new feature? It seems pretty cool to me, but I can only see it being used by people at work (who can't run/install eve on their work machine) and people on the move (who can't run eve on their netbook/smartphone).

Also, I've always been kinda embarrassed by the idea of Eve-gate being a 'social network' - because Eve is 95% male, so even logging on would make me feel like a complete loser. Well, more of a loser.

What about everyone else? Are you going to use Eve-gate?


First, I dont care if the playerbase is 100% male or 100% female. For me they are gamefriends and co-players! And since I am happily in a relationship, I dont care what sex they are! If you feel embarassed, I think you are having the wrong attitude, or should consider finding something else to do!

When it comes to eve-gate, Yes! I will use it! its a neat way to keep in touch with the game while being at work! I know my boss wont like it though, but since I have my own office with a door, and pretty much controls my own working day, I will be fine. I think! Laughing


Im Blue
Posted - 2010.05.23 15:16:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Miilla
I will use it, only once.

And that will be to disable all the public settings to private.




ok wtf is evegate and why do i need to make it private? surly its private by default, um what ever it is

Wolfgang Jager
Caldari
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Posted - 2010.05.23 15:28:00 - [17]
 

Seems like a total waste to me, nothing I wanted or intend to use there.

Pesky LaRue
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels
Etherium Cartel
Posted - 2010.05.23 15:34:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Pesky LaRue on 23/05/2010 15:33:59
Yup - I will be using it exactly as it's intended - as an out-of-game monitoring and social networking tool.

Will I go nuts over it and think it's the greatest thing ever added to EvE? Doubtful, but I'm not sure that's what it is intended for.

It's an addition/expansion to an existing framework that I already really dig - why WOULD'T I use it?

Amon Fyre
Dying in Dayton
Posted - 2010.05.23 16:18:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Im Blue
Originally by: Miilla
I will use it, only once.

And that will be to disable all the public settings to private.




ok wtf is evegate and why do i need to make it private? surly its private by default, um what ever it is


Originally by: CCP Rhayger
Regarding EVE Gate being opt-in versus opt-out I am afraid that will not be the case. This is a conscious decision on our behalf for a number of key reasons.

1) Most importantly, EVE Gate is NOT an optional service added onto EVE. It is a new fundamental part of EVE, just as much a part as in game mail, fitting windows, contracts, etc. Opt-in versus opt-out implies this is an optional service slapped on the side, it is not. Extensive effort and investment will be going into broadening EVE Gate so that it is indispensable in enhancing and improving your experience

2) We are not ignoring security concerns, on the contrary we are investing heavily in addressing them and it is our goal to meet your concerns by giving you flexible control over your information. Our approach to addressing your concerns is not to turn off access all together, but to give you the tools to manage the control of your information yourself. This is something that will be continuously worked on, added to and enhanced

3) At its core this is a social network for EVE Players, not an anti-Social network. An opt-in setting would have almost no one included at start and is contrary to the purpose of the feature and would cripple its usefulness. We feel there are better and more productive ways to address your privacy needs.


In summary, we are listening very closely to your concerns and are making conscious changes to address your privacy needs, some of those changes you have already seen as a result of feedback from alpha testing. However we feel an opt-in or opt-out option is not the answer. As EVE Gate comes to life and you begin using it we would appreciate your feedback on the account settings we roll out and what further controls you would like to see added






Im Blue
Posted - 2010.05.23 16:37:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Amon Fyre
Originally by: Im Blue
Originally by: Miilla
I will use it, only once.

And that will be to disable all the public settings to private.




ok wtf is evegate and why do i need to make it private? surly its private by default, um what ever it is


Originally by: CCP Rhayger
Regarding EVE Gate being opt-in versus opt-out I am afraid that will not be the case. This is a conscious decision on our behalf for a number of key reasons.

1) Most importantly, EVE Gate is NOT an optional service added onto EVE. It is a new fundamental part of EVE, just as much a part as in game mail, fitting windows, contracts, etc. Opt-in versus opt-out implies this is an optional service slapped on the side, it is not. Extensive effort and investment will be going into broadening EVE Gate so that it is indispensable in enhancing and improving your experience

2) We are not ignoring security concerns, on the contrary we are investing heavily in addressing them and it is our goal to meet your concerns by giving you flexible control over your information. Our approach to addressing your concerns is not to turn off access all together, but to give you the tools to manage the control of your information yourself. This is something that will be continuously worked on, added to and enhanced

3) At its core this is a social network for EVE Players, not an anti-Social network. An opt-in setting would have almost no one included at start and is contrary to the purpose of the feature and would cripple its usefulness. We feel there are better and more productive ways to address your privacy needs.


In summary, we are listening very closely to your concerns and are making conscious changes to address your privacy needs, some of those changes you have already seen as a result of feedback from alpha testing. However we feel an opt-in or opt-out option is not the answer. As EVE Gate comes to life and you begin using it we would appreciate your feedback on the account settings we roll out and what further controls you would like to see added







so i have to log into something im not even sure what it is to remove details of 6 accounts or is it the 18 toons that those account house, to stop getting in game spam that i didnt sign up to.. ok am i missing something?

Lothros Andastar
Gallente
Posted - 2010.05.23 16:38:00 - [21]
 

I give it 5 days before someone from a large alliance codes some sort of spyder and is able to make a datadump of everyone in eve.

Stormmaster Neptunius
Gallente
Posted - 2010.05.23 17:04:00 - [22]
 

For me this thing is just a potential security issue. I will only use 1 single PC in the world (mine) and only use the game itself to change anything (skill training and other things). I even won't ever create a full access API key for Evemon. As for social network, I have never participated in any and not going to change anything about that. I am perfectly well with forums, icq, and in-game chat.

Wait... it's mandatory? Then I am looking forward for it, to be able to disable every thing that can be disabled and set as high security settings as possible, as well as the maximum character most complicated password (in case there is a separate one for this), right after it is released. I really hope that this damn thing won't touch players unless they decide to turn this on manually.

Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2010.05.23 17:06:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Lothros Andastar
I give it 5 days before someone from a large alliance codes some sort of spyder and is able to make a datadump of everyone in eve.
Alliances are already waiting for evegate to go live. Which is why people are calling for it to be opt-in, not opt-out.

Amon Fyre
Dying in Dayton
Posted - 2010.05.23 17:07:00 - [24]
 



so i have to log into something im not even sure what it is to remove details of 6 accounts or is it the 18 toons that those account house, to stop getting in game spam that i didnt sign up to.. ok am i missing something?


Yes. Access into spacebook is going to be throttled at first to keep it from crashing. All your account contact details has been available since alpha to anyone who has sc****d it during testing. Anyone you set to +10 can see all your contacts. Folders are gone so all friend/foes are grouped together along with the blocked list.

Remember, it's mandatory opt-in so that you have to use it to set your spacebook to private to keep your privacy, otherwise no one would use it. ugh

Feilamya
Pain Elemental
Posted - 2010.05.23 17:15:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: CCP Rhayger

3) At its core this is a social network for EVE Players, not an anti-Social network. An opt-in setting would have almost no one included at start and is contrary to the purpose of the feature and would cripple its usefulness. We feel there are better and more productive ways to address your privacy needs.



TLDR: Socialize or die!

fuxinos
Caldari
Guys 0f Sarcasm
Posted - 2010.05.23 17:36:00 - [26]
 

Its not like I use most of those features ingame either, so no, I wont use it.





Neo Gabriel
Gallente
Percussive Diplomacy
The Phoenix. Consortium
Posted - 2010.05.23 18:28:00 - [27]
 

So I was reading this thread and information got to me that CCP achieved another step on their customer service rise to the bottom.

It turns out that they made your contact list, which includes all the characters on your address book and all the entities in game that you have set standings to, available to anyone you have +10 with!

IT IS NOT FOR YOU TO DECIDE WHO GETS TO SEE MY ADDRESS BOOK AND MY STANDINGS LIST!

But now the damage has already been done on their beta.

To make this even worse, they are capping the amount of contacts you can have to 300! W T F is this S***! There are at least 300 titan pilots in game. There are many alts and people that you want to be able to know is online around the area where you play so you have an adequate intel estimate of what to expect capital hotdrop wise, among other things.

And why this low arbitrary 300 number? This better not limit the number of alts, pilots and corps I can set personal standings with.

Because of what they have already done in trying to ram their new pet social-engineering-development-time-waste-sink down our throats the first thing I will do when Tyrannis goes live is to enable max security and never use EVE Gate again.

CCP is going to learn to treat us like customers one way or the other.

Elethiomel
Posted - 2010.05.23 19:26:00 - [28]
 

Huzzah! An email and calendar system - just like being in the office! Hope they integrate a web-based spreadsheet system soon!

Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
Posted - 2010.05.23 19:27:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Neo Gabriel


It turns out that they made your contact list, which includes all the characters on your address book and all the entities in game that you have set standings to, available to anyone you have +10 with!



Wait, seriously? That is. . .crazy. Well, I was planning to use it to check corp mails here and there. Now, I'm thinking I may go onto the "set everything private and turn it off" plan.

Do the people who make decisions at CCP actually play this game?

Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network
Dignitas.
Posted - 2010.05.23 19:27:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Elethiomel
Huzzah! An email and calendar system - just like being in the office! Hope they integrate a web-based spreadsheet system soon!


No need to - you can use Google Docs with in-game browser.


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