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NightmareX
Nomads
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2010.05.20 22:37:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: NightmareX on 22/05/2010 15:15:06
Hello ladies and gentlemen.

Not so long time ago (today) Google announced their new Android OS called 'Android 2.2 (Froyo)'. You can see more info about it at THIS link.

Now eat that iPhone OS 4 (Apple)Laughing. What are you gonna make / do to beat anything of that?.

I own a Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10i and i'm sooooooooooo looking forward to get that to my phone. Seriously, i can't wait for it.

So, i have some things i really want to discuss.

Well first, personally i think that Android 2.2 is so good that it's going to kick iPhone OS 4 and probably Windows Phone 7 really really hard in the butt to be honest. I simply don't see ANYTHING that iPhone OS 4 / Windows Phone 7 have a chance against on what Android 2.2 / 2.x can do.

I have had my Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10i for like 1 week now, and by that week Android 1.6 (even though Android 1.6 is old and outdated) have managed to impress me so much with the OS that i can't see how iPhone OS 4 or Windows Phone 7 is going to be a success in any possible ways in the future.

Secondly. Let me hear anything you think it's good and bad with Android 2.2. And let me hear it so we can discuss both the positive things and the negative things with Android.

Third. While i'm talking about iPhone here, i just have to link THIS. If that's the case with the iPhone, then i'm extremely glad that i'm never ever gonna buy that crap.

And of course, lets discuss the things with iPhone that CNET was talking about in the link i posted here to.

Ok, let the discussion startVery Happy.

EDIT: I also own an iPod Touch with iPhone OS 3 and the Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1 with Windows Mobile 6.5, so i'm talking with some experience on how the iPhone OS'es and Windows Mobile OS'es is. And Android is the future for Smartphones. Period.

And to the last thing. No i'm not working for Google if you would believe that.

Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network
Dignitas.
Posted - 2010.05.20 22:40:00 - [2]
 

Originally by: NightmareX
Ok, let the discussion startVery Happy.


Sure thing. I was never impressed with Android.

Ella C'Tronix
Posted - 2010.05.20 23:07:00 - [3]
 

People need to abandon flash and move on with something new. A related open-source technology perhaps.

It's a clunky framework, and isn't needed for 98% of the things it's used for.
The only thing i've seen it do well is play music files on band sites, and slow down perfectly fine computers.


Soren
PAK
Posted - 2010.05.21 03:27:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Ella C'Tronix
People need to abandon flash and move on with something new. A related open-source technology perhaps.

It's a clunky framework, and isn't needed for 98% of the things it's used for.
The only thing i've seen it do well is play music files on band sites, and slow down perfectly fine computers.




VP8 perhaps?

Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network
Dignitas.
Posted - 2010.05.21 11:38:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Dan O''Connor on 21/05/2010 11:39:41
Originally by: Soren
Originally by: Ella C'Tronix
People need to abandon flash and move on with something new. A related open-source technology perhaps.

It's a clunky framework, and isn't needed for 98% of the things it's used for.
The only thing i've seen it do well is play music files on band sites, and slow down perfectly fine computers.




VP8 perhaps?



No, more like this.


Originally by: Flowplayer Documenation
Flowplayer is an Open Source (GPL 3) video player for the Web. Use it to embed video streams into your web pages. Built for site owners, developers, hobbyists, businesses and serious programmers.

NightmareX
Nomads
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2010.05.21 11:53:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Dan O'Connor
Originally by: NightmareX
Ok, let the discussion startVery Happy.


Sure thing. I was never impressed with Android.

What made you not impressed with Android?. Tell me something iPhone or Windows Mobile have that Android doesn't have, for example.

Tallaran Kouros
Cryptonym Sleepers
Posted - 2010.05.21 12:03:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: NightmareX
Originally by: Dan O'Connor
Originally by: NightmareX
Ok, let the discussion startVery Happy.


Sure thing. I was never impressed with Android.

What made you not impressed with Android?. Tell me something iPhone or Windows Mobile have that Android doesn't have, for example.


I find the interface just really clunky - it just doesn't agree with me.

The on-screen keyboard just isn't as good as the one on the iPhone either.

I have an iPhone 3G and a rooted and re-flashed HTC Hero running 2.1 and try as I may I just can't like Android, no matter how much I want to.

The APIs are an utter joy to code with, but the OS itself just feels really clunky.

Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network
Dignitas.
Posted - 2010.05.21 12:05:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: NightmareX
Originally by: Dan O'Connor
Originally by: NightmareX
Ok, let the discussion startVery Happy.


Sure thing. I was never impressed with Android.

What made you not impressed with Android?. Tell me something iPhone or Windows Mobile have that Android doesn't have, for example.



You really wanna know? Google fired me.

NightmareX
Nomads
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2010.05.21 12:08:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Dan O'Connor
Originally by: NightmareX
Originally by: Dan O'Connor
Originally by: NightmareX
Ok, let the discussion startVery Happy.


Sure thing. I was never impressed with Android.

What made you not impressed with Android?. Tell me something iPhone or Windows Mobile have that Android doesn't have, for example.



You really wanna know? Google fired me.

Oh, now i seeLaughing.

NightmareX
Nomads
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2010.05.21 15:20:00 - [10]
 

I'm gonna ask though.

When Android 2.2 is fully released on all smartphones that can have it and that. Then tell me some reasons why you would buy an iPhone 4G with iPhone OS 4 or any other devices with Symbian OS over any other 1.x GHz Snapdragon deviced with Android 2.2?.

Zindela
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
Posted - 2010.05.21 23:29:00 - [11]
 

Owner of a Motorola Droid, I love the Android 2.0 OS. For me, it has all of the functionality of the iPhone, and then some. The multitasking in particular is an excellent feature that Apple's products are still lacking.

I read about 2.2 about 2 weeks ago actually, on Wired.com IIRC, and was very excited. Still am, to be honest :)

Only thing I'm worried about is that the tethering functions may not actually make it to the Verizon network phones. It seems to me, that they would see that function as something that allows users to circumvent buying a mobile broadband card. (Which it does).

Verizon may force those of us that would use that functionality to pay extra monthly for the use of that function, something that I'm not willing to do. However, on the other hand, we ARE already paying for an unlimited data plan, so the net increase would be slim at best.

The other thing I'm worried about is that the time it may take for Verizon to actually distribute 2.2 to it's networked phones could be a very long time. 2.1 wasn't uploaded to the phones until a few weeks after Google actually released it.

Still, where I read about it, it also enables support for Flash 10.1, and actually returns a 450% performance increase.

Like I said, I'm excited, I just hope that the networks don't nerf the functionality of the system Confused

NightmareX
Nomads
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2010.05.22 00:52:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: NightmareX on 22/05/2010 14:53:00
Alright, here is the Google I/O - Keynote Day 2 Android Demo for those who haven't seen that.

Now i watched all that, and i'm gonna be very honest here and say this. Google / Android, you are the best thing that ever could happen to smart phones today.

I simply have no words to say about how damn awesome that is.

Heh, gonna be funny to see what Apple / iPhone OS is going to have when they are going to release iPhone OS 4.

But i have a bad feeling that i might end up by sitting and crying with laughter because of stupidity from Apple because they are introducing some new stupid features that some other mobile phones already have had for ages already instead of doing some really cool things like Google are doing to Android 2.2 and the next versions after that.

Tobias Sjodin
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.05.22 11:56:00 - [13]
 

I'll take Sense any day. Android just isn't for me.

energen
Posted - 2010.05.22 14:32:00 - [14]
 

Writing from my experia x10. Ndroid is fantastic. My only problem is that the screen. Does not always rotate for whatever reason

NightmareX
Nomads
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2010.05.22 15:00:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
I'll take Sense any day. Android just isn't for me.

You mean like this?: HTC Sense UI.

If that's what your talking about, then it's still Android.

Jim McGregor
Posted - 2010.05.22 17:46:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Jim McGregor on 22/05/2010 17:46:50

Apple? They are not even in the game. Neither is Microsoft.

I for one welcome our new overlord Google.

Tobias Sjodin
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.05.22 22:59:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: NightmareX
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
I'll take Sense any day. Android just isn't for me.

You mean like this?: HTC Sense UI.

If that's what your talking about, then it's still Android.


Maybe you forgot that I have a HD2.

NightmareX
Nomads
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2010.05.23 13:39:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: NightmareX on 23/05/2010 19:10:36
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
Originally by: NightmareX
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
I'll take Sense any day. Android just isn't for me.

You mean like this?: HTC Sense UI.

If that's what your talking about, then it's still Android.


Maybe you forgot that I have a HD2.

Windows Mobile 6.5 is not a good OS for mobilephones today. It's sluggish and it's outdated alot. It might not be that sluggish on your HD2, since it have a very powerfull CPU and that, but it's still Windows Mobile 6.5.

I have a Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1 to that runs Windows Mobile 6.5. It's working okish, but because the X1 have a crappy CPU, then the OS is running kinda slow.

This is how i rank the different OS'es for mobile phones today. Number 1 is the best one that are open to everything and can provide alot of options while the last number is the crappiest one where you can't control anything you want. And where you have to use specified bloated Apps to copy over musics to your mobile phone and so on, yeah you know what i'm talking about here.

1. Android 2.2 / 3.0

2. Windows Phone 7

3. Symbian ^3 / ^4

4. Maemo 5 (OS made by Nokia)

5. iPhone OS 4

Tobias Sjodin
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.05.23 15:56:00 - [19]
 

Don't give much of a toss about your lists. I care about what I actually experience first hand.

Have fun though.

NightmareX
Nomads
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2010.05.23 19:19:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
Don't give much of a toss about your lists. I care about what I actually experience first hand.

Have fun though.

That's true. But have you tried Android 2.1 though?.

I can agree to some point that Windows Mobile 6.5 might be good if you only have tried Android 1.6. Since Android 1.6 isn't that good it self.

As long i can have a smart phone with an OS that runs really smooth and nice and who can run 720p movies with 6-8k kbps in bitrate without giving any stuttering and who are very easy to use and so on, then i'm happy.

Having easy access to lots of programs is also a good thing.

But what are you using your HD2 most to?. Surfing web, watching movies and stuffs like that?.

NightmareX
Nomads
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2010.05.26 21:59:00 - [21]
 

Heh, i'm running Android 2.1 on my Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1 now :-).

It's almost like an emulator, since i have to run it after Windows Mobile have started up.

hired goon
Posted - 2010.05.27 09:06:00 - [22]
 

I'm waiting to upgrade my X1 to a phone with Qualcomm 1.5ghz dual-core CPU, and android 2.2/3.0

Tallaran Kouros
Cryptonym Sleepers
Posted - 2010.05.27 20:43:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: NightmareX

I can agree to some point that Windows Mobile 6.5 might be good if you only have tried Android 1.6. Since Android 1.6 isn't that good it self.



To be fair, I've had poos that were more satisfying than Windows Mobile 6.5 :)

NightmareX
Nomads
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2010.05.28 00:58:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: NightmareX on 28/05/2010 02:50:05
Hello again.

Just to show how nice you can get Android 1.6 to look by installing 2 small programs and 1 widgets. Then i'm gonna show you how my main screen on my XPERIA X10 looks now.

I had to do this first before i could take a screenshot of my screen on my XPERIA X10.

After that, i took the picture and it looks like this.

Now i will say beat that to iPhone OS lol. Even my XPERIA X10 can install 3 small things and make the old Android 1.6 OS it have now to look really really nice without loosing the warranty on the phone since you don't have have to do a jailbreak / hack of some sort to get that to work.

Dzann
Minmatar United Freedom Front
The 11th Hour
Posted - 2010.05.28 09:47:00 - [25]
 

what widget is that one with the time, calendar and weather?

Torque Daisy
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
Posted - 2010.05.28 10:16:00 - [26]
 

/timewarp i am back in school and kids are showing off their stuff and I whip out a psion 5mx, a modern classic now, and am called a geek.

Then a decade later everyone, everyone is doing it like it's 'new'.

cripes.

NightmareX
Nomads
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2010.05.28 16:17:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: NightmareX on 28/05/2010 16:17:08
Originally by: Dzann
what widget is that one with the time, calendar and weather?

The widget is called "Fancy Widget". And you find it for free on Android Market.

And also, read this.

NightmareX
Nomads
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2010.05.29 01:45:00 - [28]
 

And here comes the first test of the Android 2.2 that i have seen now: Android 2.2 'Froyo' Review: It's Sweet.

NightmareX
Nomads
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2010.07.28 16:28:00 - [29]
 

Heh, time to bring this topic to the first page Very Happy.

Well well, now i'm running Android 2.2 (Froyo) on my Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1. And it's working really nice so far.

You can read more about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=709632

Very soon we can run Android 2.2 on the XPERIA X10's to. Yes i own the XPERIA X10 to.


 

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