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Nicole Graves
Caldari
Kaalakiota Exploration Unit
Posted - 2010.05.13 21:46:00 - [61]
 

Support acknowledged.

Akora Verone
Gallente
Duripant BioTEC Incorporated
Posted - 2010.05.13 21:47:00 - [62]
 

Support acknowledged.


Verona
Minmatar
Veto Corp
Posted - 2010.05.13 21:48:00 - [63]
 

Support acknowledged.


Vieve Creston
DED
Posted - 2010.05.13 21:54:00 - [64]
 

It is capsuleer forces that have led these invasions and the same intelligence you have stolen from us shows clearly that it is also capsuleer support that enabled the organization of these incursions in the first place.

Until such time as we can be assured that the dissemination of intelligence amongst capsuleers does not in fact further the Nationís goal, the current protocol will continue.

Caellach Marellus
Gallente
Nephtys Ventures inc
Posted - 2010.05.13 21:56:00 - [65]
 

Edited by: Caellach Marellus on 13/05/2010 21:58:15
Originally by: Vieve Creston
It is capsuleer forces that have led these invasions and the same intelligence you have stolen from us shows clearly that it is also capsuleer support that enabled the organization of these incursions in the first place.

Until such time as we can be assured that the dissemination of intelligence amongst capsuleers does not in fact further the Nationís goal, the current protocol will continue.



So you're going with the paranoid "Everyone's against me, let's trust no one and damn the consequences and civilian loss." route then?

You've failed those people taken by the Nation, your ineptitude risks failing more.

Support acknowledged.

Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
Posted - 2010.05.13 21:59:00 - [66]
 

Originally by: Vieve Creston
It is capsuleer forces that have led these invasions and the same intelligence you have stolen from us shows clearly that it is also capsuleer support that enabled the organization of these incursions in the first place.

Until such time as we can be assured that the dissemination of intelligence amongst capsuleers does not in fact further the Nationís goal, the current protocol will continue.



You're a complete disgrace.

There are HUNDREDS of capsuleers who have offered their guns to assist you, thousands more will do the same if you have the backbone to lift your childish censorship.

You're a failure on even the most fundemental of levels, Creston.

YOU brought this on New Eden.
YOU neglected to make proper preparations.
YOU are responsible for a missing persons total that charges toward half a million.

Do what's right, not what your ego tells you to do, you fool.


Andreus LeHane
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
Posted - 2010.05.13 21:59:00 - [67]
 

Originally by: Vieve Creston
It is capsuleer forces that have led these invasions and the same intelligence you have stolen from us shows clearly that it is also capsuleer support that enabled the organization of these incursions in the first place.

Until such time as we can be assured that the dissemination of intelligence amongst capsuleers does not in fact further the Nationís goal, the current protocol will continue.


You're a corrupt, cowardly hag and the blood of the innocents taken lies as thickly on your hands and those of your cronies as on the monsters in the Nation.

Julianus Soter
Gallente
Moira.
Posted - 2010.05.13 22:00:00 - [68]
 

The Ishaeka reports were not stolen from you, Madame Creston, they were given to me and Mr. Vallar by someone within or near the Inner Circle. Perhaps you should check your own people before hurling accusations.

The intelligence reports, however, have proven vital in preparing and marshalling our forces, and alerting the Capsuleer community to the severity of this threat.

And you, Madame Creston, Director of the Ishaeka Taskforce, have an obligation to release all tactical intelligence and information related to the resurgence of Nation and Kuvakei.

Controlled wormholes, madame. We need to find the source of these wormholes, and strike hard and fast.

You can either help us, or get out of our way.

Kateryne
Minmatar
Kat's Discount Weapon Emporium
NISYN Inc.
Posted - 2010.05.13 22:01:00 - [69]
 

Originally by: Vieve Creston
It is capsuleer forces that have led these invasions and the same intelligence you have stolen from us shows clearly that it is also capsuleer support that enabled the organization of these incursions in the first place.

Until such time as we can be assured that the dissemination of intelligence amongst capsuleers does not in fact further the Nationís goal, the current protocol will continue.



Vieve - perhaps the time has come for the capsuleers to be ruled BY capsuleers. You worry about your silly little planet-side endeavours and we'll look after the big scary world of space mmkay? We demonstrated mere hours ago that with almost no preperation a fleet of roughly 50 capsuleers were able to mitigate the civilian abduction on Umokka VIII and decimate the Sansha fleet.

Not ONE DED or CONCORD vessel was sighted.

Can you honestly broadcast your media blackout policy to the masses, knowing that there are independent news sources out there that you cannot control, and still remain confident in your authority?

Concord has proven itself completely ineffectual on multiple occasions over the last decade.

Nikita Alterana
Kumiho's Smile
Posted - 2010.05.13 22:03:00 - [70]
 

Originally by: Vieve Creston
It is capsuleer forces that have led these invasions and the same intelligence you have stolen from us shows clearly that it is also capsuleer support that enabled the organization of these incursions in the first place.

Until such time as we can be assured that the dissemination of intelligence amongst capsuleers does not in fact further the Nationís goal, the current protocol will continue.



Current Protocol? CURRENT PROTOCOL? And that is what? Do nothing? Sit by any watch while Nation makes off with hundreds of thousands of people? Because that is what has happened so far, Sansha invades, Concord sends one lousy ship, and relies on capsullers to do their heavy lifting, even when there aren't enough capsullers to stop Sansha from making off with tens of thousands of people. Concord has shown to be grossly incompetant, and criminally negligent in dealing with these incursions, you've done nothing then blame us for your failing. I wasn't going to sign this, but now that you've shown me how truely useless you are I am.

SUPPORT ACKNOWLEDGED.

Darth Skorpius
m3 Corp
Fidelas Constans
Posted - 2010.05.13 22:03:00 - [71]
 

Support acknowledged

Ituralde
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2010.05.13 22:04:00 - [72]
 

Originally by: Vieve Creston
It is capsuleer forces that have led these invasions and the same intelligence you have stolen from us shows clearly that it is also capsuleer support that enabled the organization of these incursions in the first place.

Until such time as we can be assured that the dissemination of intelligence amongst capsuleers does not in fact further the Nationís goal, the current protocol will continue.



The only thing you have proven yourselves capable of is jumping on the tiniest of infractions Capsuleers may be responsible for while ignoring the misfortune of hundreds of thousands.

If you are so great as you claim to be and are so capable of handling this situation without the gross incompetence you've shown thus far, then prove it.

Bring a battleship to TXW-EI and I'll be happy to show you personally just how powerless you lot are.

Cheers,

Ituralde

Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2010.05.13 22:05:00 - [73]
 

Ms. Creston,

Kindly go die in a fire.

Yours,
Kyoko Sakoda
Veto Corporation

Lily'ia
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2010.05.13 22:06:00 - [74]
 

Support acknowledged.

Myxx
Atropos Group
Posted - 2010.05.13 22:11:00 - [75]
 

Originally by: Vieve Creston
It is capsuleer forces that have led these invasions and the same intelligence you have stolen from us shows clearly that it is also capsuleer support that enabled the organization of these incursions in the first place.

Until such time as we can be assured that the dissemination of intelligence amongst capsuleers does not in fact further the Nationís goal, the current protocol will continue.



Frankly, at this point, Miss Creston, you're with us, or against us.

Stand aside, or get crushed under our heel.

Scarlet Strange
The Scope
Posted - 2010.05.13 22:19:00 - [76]
 

Originally by: Vieve Creston
It is capsuleer forces that have led these invasions and the same intelligence you have stolen from us shows clearly that it is also capsuleer support that enabled the organization of these incursions in the first place.

Until such time as we can be assured that the dissemination of intelligence amongst capsuleers does not in fact further the Nationís goal, the current protocol will continue.


They were Nation capsuleers flying under Nation corporate banners. I wonder, why did your associate say that it was a glorious day for the Empires? Isn't it true that CONCORD is working with the Nation and painting Capsuleers as the culprits for the specific purpose of both furthering your own jurisdiction and also gaining access to new technology?

Isn't it true that you are paying for this technology with the blood of the people of the Empires?

It is a dark day for freedom. It is a dark day for everyone. You have plenty to answer for, love.

Prove to me, to everyone, that I am wrong. Prove to us that we should trust you.

Jev North
Ghost Festival
Naraka.
Posted - 2010.05.13 22:20:00 - [77]
 

I can see about half of Creston's position on this.. if you're going to crucify the DED, do it for negligence, not for trying to maintain operational secrecy. Nation capsuleers read and post on this stream, for sakes.

Galdrin Shiltok
Posted - 2010.05.13 22:20:00 - [78]
 

Support Acknowledged

CONCORD needs to answer for its ineptitude.


Ghost Hunter
True Slave Foundations
Shaktipat Revelators
Posted - 2010.05.13 22:25:00 - [79]
 

Originally by: Vieve Creston
It is capsuleer forces that have led these invasions and the same intelligence you have stolen from us shows clearly that it is also capsuleer support that enabled the organization of these incursions in the first place.

Until such time as we can be assured that the dissemination of intelligence amongst capsuleers does not in fact further the Nationís goal, the current protocol will continue.



A long time waiting, I do think.

Yes, how are you by the way, Ms. Creston?

Darth Skorpius
m3 Corp
Fidelas Constans
Posted - 2010.05.13 22:28:00 - [80]
 

Originally by: Jev North
I can see about half of Creston's position on this.. if you're going to crucify the DED, do it for negligence, not for trying to maintain operational secrecy. Nation capsuleers read and post on this stream, for sakes.


then we do want any sensible 0.0 alliance does for thier intels channels, only post hostile intel and leave the defence and counter attack fleet organising to more secure channels.

honestly, the whole "there are spies in our midsts" excuse doesnt fly here, its just a cop out ot try and cover up thier own incompetence and the fact that they screwed up

Jorn Dwer
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2010.05.13 22:29:00 - [81]
 

Support acknowledged.

Merdaneth
Amarr
Defensores Fidei
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2010.05.13 22:59:00 - [82]
 

Edited by: Merdaneth on 13/05/2010 22:59:25
Originally by: Verone
Gross negligence on the part of the DED has directly contributed to and caused the abduction of approximately 370,000 civilians by the invading forces of Sansha's Nation. Civilians who's safety the Assembly is charged with.


Since when is Concord charged with ensuring the safety of civilians? As you stated, Concord's original charter was as a tool to solve tensions between the four major powers peacefully.

I also don't believe Concord has taken on any responsibility to inform the public at large or the capsuleer community of threats of this kind. I also don't believe it is Concord's charter to directly protect civilians.

Concord intervenes in capsuleer violence, and creates incentives for capsuleers to combat 'designated' pirates like yourself. However, if a capsuleer attacks the civilians transports found in all high-security systems, Concord will not intervene in any way. If you yourself enter high-security space, Concord will not chase you but the local Navy ships will take action.

I do not believe your petition will strengthen Concord to take care of this threat in any shape or form. I do not know what your motives are, but I'm not particularly convinced you have the well-being of the citizens of New Eden that risk capture by the Sansha in mind.

Scarlet Strange
The Scope
Posted - 2010.05.13 23:18:00 - [83]
 

Originally by: Merdaneth
Since when is Concord charged with ensuring the safety of civilians? As you stated, Concord's original charter was as a tool to solve tensions between the four major powers peacefully.

Actually, five major powers. Everyone forgets the little guys.

Ember Vykos
Caldari
Ghost Festival
Naraka.
Posted - 2010.05.13 23:19:00 - [84]
 

Support Acknowledged.

Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
Posted - 2010.05.13 23:19:00 - [85]
 

Originally by: Merdaneth
Edited by: Merdaneth on 13/05/2010 22:59:25
Originally by: Verone
Gross negligence on the part of the DED has directly contributed to and caused the abduction of approximately 370,000 civilians by the invading forces of Sansha's Nation. Civilians who's safety the Assembly is charged with.


Since when is Concord charged with ensuring the safety of civilians? As you stated, Concord's original charter was as a tool to solve tensions between the four major powers peacefully.


I can see you like to manipulate people's words, let me show you the full quote you're looking for :

Quote:
A little over a century ago, the Consolidated Cooperation and Relations Command Assembly was formed as a partnership between the four major sovereign powers to ensure their co-operation in ironing out their differences peacefully, and as a neutral force to maintain the safety of their spacelanes and the wellbeing of those that used them.


As you can see, the full quote states that they're charged with protection. The DED is often seen in nullsec, in fact I've taken numerous missions in Venal to front off against their strike forces. You'll find that they're the ENFORCEMENT arm of CONCORD, that actually go out looking for patrols like these Sansha ones they kept hidden from the public.

Originally by: Merdaneth
I also don't believe Concord has taken on any responsibility to inform the public at large or the capsuleer community of threats of this kind. I also don't believe it is Concord's charter to directly protect civilians.


Feel free to head to a major trade hub, or a populated system and fire on a random unarmed civilian craft there, something pretty and worth while like a hulk or a big bad Orca. I'm sure you'll agree after a few seconds and a mail from Pend Insurance that protection is quite high on their list of priorities. Also, fly something expensive.

Originally by: Merdaneth
Concord intervenes in capsuleer violence, and creates incentives for capsuleers to combat 'designated' pirates like yourself. However, if a capsuleer attacks the civilians transports found in all high-security systems, Concord will not intervene in any way. If you yourself enter high-security space, Concord will not chase you but the local Navy ships will take action.


The convoys you're speaking of are corporate owned convoys, that are protected by station sentries from their owner's station. CONCORD presence isn't required there to protect them.

Originally by: Merdaneth
I do not believe your petition will strengthen Concord to take care of this threat in any shape or form. I do not know what your motives are, but I'm not particularly convinced you have the well-being of the citizens of New Eden that risk capture by the Sansha in mind.


I'm not asking you to believe that, you can continue wasting you life talking to clouds and stars. I have no problem with that.

There are more than enough people here who agree with the premise of what was in the petition, one less of the Sarum's little lapdog filled Harem is no problem.



Shae Tiann
Gallente
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2010.05.13 23:25:00 - [86]
 

Support acknowledged

In General
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2010.05.14 00:14:00 - [87]
 

Edited by: In General on 14/05/2010 00:14:06
Vieve, your attempts at buck passing are as pathetic as they are transparent.

Support acknowledged!


Kaleigh Doyle
Gallente
Racing News Network
Posted - 2010.05.14 02:27:00 - [88]
 

Ugh, the hypocrisy is so overwhelming I think I'm nauseous.

The Nation's assault on the Empires are terrible, but consider the sheer loss of life inflicted upon unsuspecting pilots met by Verone's pirate organization over the past few years. I guarantee you the number will far exceed the current invasions by the Sansha.

So if you want to blame CONCORD for anything, one would wonder what ineptitude allowed Verone to keep his pilot's license and corporation to continue his merry mayhem.

Then again, I'm sure you and your pirate friends would love nothing more than the disarray of CONCORD. Nothing like capitalizing on an emergency for your own profit, hm?

Sophie Starsparrow
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2010.05.14 02:30:00 - [89]
 

People need to realize we can't rail against the status quo AND support CONCORD. Their goal is nothing but the maintenance and upkeep of ages old divisions amongst the people's of New Eden and as has been proven time and again in our history, stagnation leads to death. Or in this case, perhaps something worse.

I support this petition.

Shae Tiann
Gallente
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2010.05.14 03:33:00 - [90]
 

Originally by: Kaleigh Doyle
Ugh, the hypocrisy is so overwhelming I think I'm nauseous.

The Nation's assault on the Empires are terrible, but consider the sheer loss of life inflicted upon unsuspecting pilots met by Verone's pirate organization over the past few years. I guarantee you the number will far exceed the current invasions by the Sansha.

So if you want to blame CONCORD for anything, one would wonder what ineptitude allowed Verone to keep his pilot's license and corporation to continue his merry mayhem.

Then again, I'm sure you and your pirate friends would love nothing more than the disarray of CONCORD. Nothing like capitalizing on an emergency for your own profit, hm?

We eat our own, my dear. And unlike the innocents who've been abducted by the Sansha in the last couple days, who most likely never knew what was happening until it was too late, the crews aboard the ships we target knew what they were getting into when they signed on -- with the exception of slaves serving aboard Amarrian vessels.

Additionally, it's the local police vessels who give us the most grief, rather than CONCORD. Do know your subject matter before making baseless accusations.


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