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TeaDaze
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
Posted - 2010.05.04 22:11:00 - [1]
 

Meeting took place Sun 2nd May at 17:12

Eve Wiki Link Summary and raw logs
External Downloads Raw Log | PDF Summary | CSM4 Attendance PDF

TL:DR

Present: ElvenLord, Alekseyev Karrde, TeaDaze, Korvin, Z0D, Helen Highwater (alt), Meissa Anunthiel (alt)

Absent: Zastrow, Mrs Trzzbk, Song Li, Sokratesz, T'Amber (alt), Farscape Hw (alt), Serenity Steele (alt)

Results

1. BPO lockdown by majority stockholder

TeaDaze withdrew the proposal for further investigation.

2. Show damaged drones in drone bay

Passed 7 for

3. Forum timer - Again

No vote required

4. Improvements to the F11 navigation panel

Passed 7 for

Other Business

The next meeting was set for Sunday May 23rd at 17:00 Eve time.

Meeting closed at 17:47

Nareg Maxence
Gallente
Posted - 2010.05.05 06:50:00 - [2]
 

I can't see the picture that is attached to the F11 nav-aid proposal, is it just me?

Amanda Wilkins
Caldari
Dromedary Goat Albatross and Fish
Big Bang Quantum
Posted - 2010.05.05 07:25:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: TeaDaze

Present: ElvenLord, Alekseyev Karrde, TeaDaze, Korvin, Z0D, Helen Highwater (alt), Meissa Anunthiel (alt)

Absent: Zastrow, Mrs Trzzbk, Song Li, Sokratesz, T'Amber (alt), Farscape Hw (alt), Serenity Steele (alt)

Results

1. BPO lockdown by majority stockholder

TeaDaze withdrew the proposal for further investigation.




I have added an update to clarify the intentions behind my proposal.

TeaDaze
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
Posted - 2010.05.05 07:54:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Nareg Maxence
I can't see the picture that is attached to the F11 nav-aid proposal, is it just me?

It was showing and then it wasn't (we've had issues in the past with CCP renaming things). I'll have a look later but for now the image is also hosted at the CSM minutes site

Ashina Sito
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2010.05.05 08:07:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Nareg Maxence
I can't see the picture that is attached to the F11 nav-aid proposal, is it just me?


Shows for me atm...

Sweet mama!!! I have been drooling for a common destinations kind of interface for ever. Looks like a good baseline to start from. Will be great to see it in game... sometime after Incarna..... Wink

Ban Doga
Posted - 2010.05.07 14:28:00 - [6]
 

The forum timer is a prime example of how serious you can take this.

If you go and replace every other "CCP promised to look into this" with a "CCP promised to continue to postpone this" in the meeting minutes you are much closer to reality.

"Expectation Management" on CCP's side was an issue in the meeting minutes of the summit in Iceland.
The CSM should go ahead and demonstrate what they ask of CCP and clearly state that none of this more than sweet talk unless there is something that suggests CCP is actually working on the issue (like assigning it to a specific release).

Furthermore I find the lack of follow ups disturbing.
A recap and summary of the issues from the last meeting(s) should be part of every meeting.

Right now it mostly feels like a fire-and-forget approach which is not the most effective way IMO. It suggests a lack of consistency and gives the appearance of talking about issues that are interesting/pressing/cool now but not caring about them later (even if that's not the case).


 

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