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Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente
Origin.
Black Legion.
Posted - 2010.04.27 20:24:00 - [1]
 

I've been toying with a variety of Machariel fits for L4 missions, ignoring the obvious benefit that trading out a training clone for a crystal set would provide (as I'd like to ship to a vargur for easy salvage/loot mid-mission, and with my current remap, the extra +2 really matters). My latest Mach build, for your trolling pleasure...

[Machariel, L4 Missions]
Domination Gyrostabilizer
Domination Gyrostabilizer
Domination Gyrostabilizer
Domination Gyrostabilizer
Domination Tracking Enhancer
Domination Tracking Enhancer
Damage Control II

Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field
Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field
Cap Recharger II
Republic Fleet 100MN Afterburner

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
Small Tractor Beam I

Large Core Defence Capacitor safeguard II
Large Core Defence Capacitor safeguard II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II

Ogre II x4
Warrior II x5


Please feel free to rip apart and provide suggestions on alternatives. obviously the focus here is not on cap stability while the booster itself is running, but simply on being able to sufficiently burst tank while the ACs rip a giant hole in incoming DPS.

Dimdamm
Posted - 2010.04.27 20:39:00 - [2]
 

Not a bad fitt, but I would use 3 ccc (to avoid the sign radius malus), and with that shield booster, you can drop the suitcase for a third TE.

Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente
Origin.
Black Legion.
Posted - 2010.04.27 20:53:00 - [3]
 

I'm down with dropping the suitcase, but does sig radius really matter when you're already a battleship?

Marko Riva
Posted - 2010.04.27 21:08:00 - [4]
 

[Machariel, Missions]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Core C-Type 100MN Afterburner
Gist C-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Explosion Dampening Field II
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field

800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
Small Tractor Beam I

Large Projectile Ambit Extension I
Large Projectile Metastasis Adjuster I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Warrior II x5
Bouncer II x4

Dimdamm
Posted - 2010.04.27 21:22:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane
I'm down with dropping the suitcase, but does sig radius really matter when you're already a battleship?


The machariel is the bs with the smallest sign radius, so yes.

Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente
Origin.
Black Legion.
Posted - 2010.04.27 23:14:00 - [6]
 

So I tinkered a bit, and here's the new one.


[Machariel, L4 Missions]
Domination Gyrostabilizer
Domination Gyrostabilizer
Domination Gyrostabilizer
Domination Gyrostabilizer
Domination Tracking Enhancer
Domination Tracking Enhancer
Domination Tracking Enhancer

Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field
Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field
Dread Guristas Shield Boost Amplifier
Gist C-Type 100MN Afterburner

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
Small Tractor Beam I

Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Ogre II x4
Warrior II x5


No sentries because I see myself using the AB to minimize when I need to hit the burst tank button; dual invulns as I'll probably swap for appropriate hardeners on a per-mission basis anyway (but the dual invulns give me the option not to, and gives me more useful baseline tank data). The cap will last about 3 minutes with this setup, with nothing in my head - you can get another 30 seconds or so and more quick regen by dumping cr8/cc8s in there, which I tend to do in preference to pirate implants.

With no dps in my head, I'm getting the following at all Vs:

Sig: 340m
Speed: 600m/s (w/ab - which is cap stable when the shield isn't burning)
Cap: 3m14s w/booster/ab on (no implants) - drop ab and you get 4m40s - since in theory you shouldn't need to perma the shield booster, this should be sufficient.
Tracking: .06825
Range: 4.2+69 with emp/phased plasma (RF was in on accident above, DPS number will be with T1 phased plasma).
DPS: 924 (guns) + 253 (drones) = 1195, with 2971 volley.
Tank shows 345 sustained w/ab, 521 w/o ab / 807 reinforced (v uniform damage).

I don't see the point of the ambit rigs as suggested by an earlier posted - the falloff advantage is merely 4km, which doesn't seem to affect the DPS graph by that much.

Assuming target is same boat (sans resists) moving at 100% velocity at a 45-degree angle from non-moving attacker, DPS graph shows a very reasonable 1042 dps at 25km, which seems more than sufficient for a ship that can handle transversal/range control exceedingly well.

Xen0nn
Amarr
UK Corp
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2010.04.28 12:32:00 - [7]
 

Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster makes you suicide friendly, just saying YARRRR!!

Mr Pentex
Posted - 2010.04.28 12:44:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane
So I tinkered a bit, and here's the new one.


[Machariel, L4 Missions]
Domination Gyrostabilizer
Domination Gyrostabilizer
Domination Gyrostabilizer
Domination Gyrostabilizer
Domination Tracking Enhancer
Domination Tracking Enhancer
Domination Tracking Enhancer

Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field
Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field
Dread Guristas Shield Boost Amplifier
Gist C-Type 100MN Afterburner

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
Small Tractor Beam I

Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Ogre II x4
Warrior II x5





What the prise tag for this fit?

Lugalzagezi666
Posted - 2010.04.28 12:44:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Lugalzagezi666 on 28/04/2010 12:48:38
Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane
...

Haha this will get ganked for sure...Laughing

E:
Originally by: Mr Pentex
What the prise tag for this fit?

Hm, id say around 8 suicide bses, depending on sec.

Mr Pentex
Posted - 2010.04.28 12:54:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Lugalzagezi666
Edited by: Lugalzagezi666 on 28/04/2010 12:48:38
Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane
...

Haha this will get ganked for sure...Laughing

E:
Originally by: Mr Pentex
What the prise tag for this fit?

Hm, id say around 8 suicide bses, depending on sec.


He he he, is that a fact Laughing

Zahira Wrath
Amarr
Dominion Strategic
Posted - 2010.04.28 15:12:00 - [11]
 

My setup: (not really gank worthy)

Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Shadow Serpentis 100MN Afterburner
Republic Fleet Target Painter
X-Large Shield Booster II
Photon Scattering Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II

800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, Phased Plasma L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, Phased Plasma L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, Phased Plasma L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, Phased Plasma L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, Phased Plasma L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, Phased Plasma L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, Phased Plasma L
Small Tractor Beam I

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Infiltrator II x5
Acolyte II x5
Medium Shield Maintenance Bot I x5 (for when flying with friendlies)

Andracin
Minmatar
Ever Flow
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2010.04.28 15:25:00 - [12]
 

I wouldn't put four faction gyrostabs on anything. the stacking penalty is so stiff after 2 that your return for your money is just not there. You would be better off putting two tops three faction and one or two t2 if you want to use four. personally I'd do 3 gyros and have an extra low slot for something else.

Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente
Origin.
Black Legion.
Posted - 2010.04.28 15:27:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Lugalzagezi666
Edited by: Lugalzagezi666 on 28/04/2010 12:48:38
Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane
...

Haha this will get ganked for sure...Laughing

E:
Originally by: Mr Pentex
What the prise tag for this fit?

Hm, id say around 8 suicide bses, depending on sec.


I certainly lol'd.

New fit isn't nearly as shiny, but then again, it's also not a machariel - but it -did- only cost me 150m, most of that recoupable when the ship explodes.


 

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