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Mir Anto
Posted - 2010.04.21 01:05:00 - [1]
 

Using the excellent WineBottler application, I packaged some OSX binaries of EVEMon and EFT. This is very similar to running them with Darwine or Wine on the Mac, except that I did almost all the work packaging them with all necessary frameworks, runtimes, and tweaks necessary to get them working.

You can check them out here. Please do let me know how they work for you (see the Contact page), and if there is any other software you would like to see made into an OSX binary.

Ivana Twinkle
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.04.21 15:07:00 - [2]
 

i would give 100 mill isk for a bottled version of EVEHQ, that works with updates and such, but since it's .net i doutbt it'll happen :-s
I'll check out evemon, great job.

Gunther Gabel
Caldari
Posted - 2010.04.21 23:33:00 - [3]
 

VERY nice job, I have been able to get EFT for some time, but couldn't get over the .net 2.0 problem for EvEMON.

Thank you very much

Kia Tor
Posted - 2010.04.22 04:37:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Ivana Twinkle
i would give 100 mill isk for a bottled version of EVEHQ, that works with updates and such, but since it's .net i doutbt it'll happen :-s
I'll check out evemon, great job.


Throw EveMeep in with EveHQ and I'll give you 200 milVery Happy

Mir Anto
Posted - 2010.04.22 06:24:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Mir Anto on 23/04/2010 00:39:14
EVEHQ has proven to be quite a tough nut to crack... don't hold your breath.

I will check out EveMeep tomorrow and post back.
Edit: EveMeep also appears to be quite tough. I'll keep trying though

Verite Rendition
Caldari
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
Posted - 2010.04.25 11:07:00 - [6]
 

This is something I've been meaning to do for quite some time but never got around to doing it. It looks good, so thanks for the hard work Mir.Smile

Just as a few notes from what I've encountered:

As a general note to everyone, unfortunately it looks like Wine 1.1.42/1.1.43 doesn't get along well with the EVEMon bottles. If you have either of those installed, EVEMon will fail to load a second time. This includes the Complete bottle, as a full Wine installation overrides the bottled Wine installation. So for anyone looking to have a regular Wine installation along with these bottles, you don't have a choice but to use 1.1.35 for the time being. It may be that a fresh bottle made with 1.1.42/1.1.43 will work, but I don't have the time to poke at it. You may want to give it a shot, Mir.

Oh and Mir, for EFT you don't need to have users drag around the data files. If you put them in <app bottle>/Contents/Resource/drive_c/winebottler/, then they will get copied over in to the user's prefix when they first run the bottle. Strangely enough you do this for the Complete version already, but not the Basic version. I would also put a simple config.ini file (EFT's configuration file) in there with Force High Color Icons enabled, so that EFT looks correct on first load, since Wine borks transparency of EFT's default True Color icons.

Flynn Fetladral
Royal Order of Security Specialists
Posted - 2010.04.25 11:27:00 - [7]
 

It's great to have EFT working, thanks very much. One thing which seems to happen though is every time I close EFT, any saved fittings are lost and my character is not saved. So you have to start from scratch every time you load EFT up.

Uriqoui
Tribe Industries
Posted - 2010.05.01 15:44:00 - [8]
 

Excellent work! Thank you very much!

Ivana Twinkle
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.05.05 16:01:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Mir Anto
Edited by: Mir Anto on 23/04/2010 00:39:14
EVEHQ has proven to be quite a tough nut to crack... don't hold your breath.




yea that's what i thought, maybe if i got mono running on osx...

Gunther Gabel
Caldari
Posted - 2010.05.30 20:48:00 - [10]
 

OK, been running this for quite some time, works perfect.

PI skills crash it
I downloaded the new PI skills file and replaced the file of the same name in the resources folder
PI skills still crash it

Any chance of an update or some instructions??

AmirrAzura
Posted - 2010.05.31 04:15:00 - [11]
 

nice work Very Happy

Demetrius DeVolnay
Posted - 2010.08.22 11:02:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Demetrius DeVolnay on 22/08/2010 11:04:59
Hello there!

I've made 2 new WineBottled versions of EVEMon (1.3.3.2418) and EFT (2.12.4). They work for me, hope they'll work for you too! App-only versions are intended for those of you who already have WineBottler on their Macs, complete ones for those who need Wine libraries included in the app.

Here's the links:

EVEMon 1.3.3.2418:
App-only: EVEMon-1.3.3.2418-AppOnly.zip 161.18 MB (md5: 2a674429d87d7c6a6a4cd7b8da1d323d)
Complete: EVEMon-1.3.3.2418-Complete.zip 215.04 MB (md5: bac33d3e6664894387c66997e0ab0ab1)

EFT 2.12.4:
App-only: EFT-2.12.4-AppOnly.zip 16 MB (md5: 8b94c596b83c48d3846b48b80ca33199)
Complete: EFT-2.12.4-Complete.zip 69.7 MB (md5: 665d728f6539ac547f53c9997d331435)

Of course, I can't guarantee proper working for these apps, but here's screenshot of them on my Mac:

EVEMon:
http://tof.canardpc.com/preview2/9432cd99-faff-41a4-b1a9-9ce8a2a7262c.jpg

EFT:
http://tof.canardpc.com/preview2/c7307936-ade1-47af-b045-6b199ebc5c99.jpg

Image changed to URL. Zymurgist

Luna Moonraker
Gallente
LUNA-CORP
Posted - 2010.08.22 12:54:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Demetrius DeVolnay
Edited by: Demetrius DeVolnay on 22/08/2010 11:04:59
Hello there!

I've made 2 new WineBottled versions of EVEMon (1.3.3.2418) and EFT (2.12.4). They work for me, hope they'll work for you too! App-only versions are intended for those of you who already have WineBottler on their Macs, complete ones for those who need Wine libraries included in the app.

Both working great on iMac 27" with 10.6.4. Thanks very much for this.

Demetrius DeVolnay
Posted - 2010.08.22 15:23:00 - [14]
 

You're welcome, Luna Moonraker.

I've also bottled two apps containing EveHQ (1.15.2.1820). Since I'm not a huge user of this app, I can't tell if it's 100% working, but I've tested it a little, and all major functionalities seems to be OK, as well as the updating system.

Hope it'll work for you too! Here's a screenshot:
http://tof.canardpc.com/preview2/11ba6c24-dd63-4712-a29d-d00007c8cf59.jpg


Of course, if you like that, ISK donations are accepted and very welcome! Razz


Here's the links:

EveHQ 1.15.2.1820
App-only: EveHQ-1.15.2.1820-AppOnly.zip 235.92 MB (md5: e7fc385fb3813c2178b8fe3ce0b6347c)
Complete: EveHQ-1.15.2.1820-Complete.zip 289.78 MB (md5: 6ffb4bfa030c0d063bac845c839db049)

Image changed to URL. Zymurgist

Merivel Mar
Posted - 2010.08.22 16:44:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Merivel Mar on 22/08/2010 16:45:50
Originally by: Demetrius DeVolnay
Edited by: Demetrius DeVolnay on 22/08/2010 11:04:59
Hello there!

I've made 2 new WineBottled versions of EVEMon (1.3.3.2418) and EFT (2.12.4). They work for me, hope they'll work for you too! App-only versions are intended for those of you who already have WineBottler on their Macs, complete ones for those who need Wine libraries included in the app.

Here's the links:

EVEMon 1.3.3.2418:
App-only: EVEMon-1.3.3.2418-AppOnly.zip 161.18 MB (md5: 2a674429d87d7c6a6a4cd7b8da1d323d)


Complete: EVEMon-1.3.3.2418-Complete.zip 215.04 MB (md5: bac33d3e6664894387c66997e0ab0ab1)

EFT 2.12.4:
App-only: EFT-2.12.4-AppOnly.zip 16 MB (md5: 8b94c596b83c48d3846b48b80ca33199)
Complete: EFT-2.12.4-Complete.zip 69.7 MB (md5: 665d728f6539ac547f53c9997d331435)

Of course, I can't guarantee proper working for these apps, but here's screenshot of them on my Mac:

EVEMon:
http://tof.canardpc.com/preview2/9432cd99-faff-41a4-b1a9-9ce8a2a7262c.jpg

EFT:
http://tof.canardpc.com/preview2/c7307936-ade1-47af-b045-6b199ebc5c99.jpg

Image changed to URL. Zymurgist



Thank You much for this Smile

Xiaolung Bao
Posted - 2010.08.26 19:54:00 - [16]
 

I downloaded the bottled EveMon above and it worked fine until it tried to update my character's skill queue and the server status. It was able to use the API key to get the character information, but it could not connect to the server for skill updates or server status. I could also pull down the Mineral prices from other websites.

I ran EveMon under VMWare and it worked flawlessly (as one might expect).

I bottled up EveMon in CodeWeaver's CrossOver and it worked exactly like the bottled EveMon presented here: it could not update the character skill queue or the server status.

It seems that points to a problem in the underlying WINE or X11 stuff.

Any clues?

Krebskasper
Caldari
Biotronics Inc.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2010.08.27 11:48:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Xiaolung Bao
I downloaded the bottled EveMon above and it worked fine until it tried to update my character's skill queue and the server status. It was able to use the API key to get the character information, but it could not connect to the server for skill updates or server status. I could also pull down the Mineral prices from other websites.

I ran EveMon under VMWare and it worked flawlessly (as one might expect).

I bottled up EveMon in CodeWeaver's CrossOver and it worked exactly like the bottled EveMon presented here: it could not update the character skill queue or the server status.

It seems that points to a problem in the underlying WINE or X11 stuff.

Any clues?



Same here, I'm afraid.

Shin Chogan
Gallente
Posted - 2010.08.27 15:00:00 - [18]
 

you need to disable the network status checking in .net
find the settings.xml file in your /bottle/drive_c/users/<username>/Application Data/EveMon directory.

Find the line <ignoreNetworkStatus>false</ignoreNetworkStatus> and replace it with
<ignoreNetworkStatus>true</ignoreNetworkStatus>

Xiaolung Bao
Posted - 2010.08.27 17:27:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Shin Chogan
you need to disable the network status checking in .net
find the settings.xml file in your /bottle/drive_c/users/<username>/Application Data/EveMon directory.

Find the line <ignoreNetworkStatus>false</ignoreNetworkStatus> and replace it with
<ignoreNetworkStatus>true</ignoreNetworkStatus>


I couldn't quite find that file, but I did something that worked just as well.

I exported the settings directly from EVEMon (File -> Save Settings). Then I edited THIS file. Then I re-imported the settings into EVEMon (File ->Restore Settings). That worked.

Thank you.

jonmar
Posted - 2010.08.28 10:04:00 - [20]
 

Thanks Shin Chogan that solved it for me.

If you are having difficulty locating the required file, its here:-

/Users/<your username>/Library/Application Support/Wine/prefixes/EVEMon-1.3.3.2418/drive_c/users/<your username>/Application Data/EVEMon/settings.xml

Then follow the instructions in Shin Chogan's post.

Demetrius DeVolnay
Posted - 2010.08.29 14:32:00 - [21]
 

Thank you guys for pointing this out. And many thanks to those who donated! Wink
I will keep this thread updated with newer versions when available.

Manssell
Posted - 2010.08.31 17:58:00 - [22]
 

I'm getting a authentication failure. Every time I try to put in my API key I get this message "if you've just changed your API key the old one may not yet expire from the web server cache. Try again in a few minutes".

I didn't change my API key and it doesn't see to clear the cache?

Also in using the last version I had problems importing the XML fit files from the eve client. EFT would try to import a XML from what seemed like one location, the "XML files folder" but I can't seem to find that folder or change where EFT wants to look for them.

Krispy Dingo
Minmatar
The Night Crew
Posted - 2010.09.22 17:50:00 - [23]
 

On the EveHQ package, the buttons to manage your skill queues, i.e. Edit Queue, Delete Queue, Set as Primary, were not working. I installed winetrick comctl32 and it fixed it for me.

So happy that EveHQ will run under Wine now, but it will probably be short lived. Once 2.0 comes out, and they make the full switch to SQL for the database, I doubt we will be able to get it to run. Fingers crossed, though.

Demetrius DeVolnay
Posted - 2010.10.02 09:46:00 - [24]
 

@Manssell: thanks for pointing this out, will look into it for the next versions. Were you talking about EveMon? EveMon had problems to connect during summer, should be okay now.
@Krispy Dingo: yup, it's very possible that I forgot to include comctl32. It fixed the problem? Nice, will include it in the next update for EveHQ. Wink

Manssell
Posted - 2010.10.04 19:44:00 - [25]
 

No, I was talking about EFT.

Krispy Dingo
Minmatar
The Night Crew
Posted - 2010.10.07 01:41:00 - [26]
 

Edited by: Krispy Dingo on 07/10/2010 12:46:18
There is an easy fix for the EFT fit import problem. I'm on my phone and not staring at my Mac, so I'll throw it up here when I get home. Basically, you need to configure the prefix to go to the right folder for my documents.

Edit:
Didn't get to it last night, but here you go:

Launch EFT. Make sure you select the EFT icon in your dock, not X11, and then go WineTools -> Configuration. Select the Desktop Configuration tab, then My Documents at the bottom. You can either browse to it, or type this in, but it needs to point to


/Users/<username>/Library/Preferences/EVE Online Preferences/p_drive/My Documents


and importing and exporting fittings to and from EVE and EFT should work just fine.

Hunter Ace
Posted - 2010.10.07 19:41:00 - [27]
 

Um, I'm kind of a newb when it comes to Mac's (I've had my 27" iMac for not quite a year now) and I have no idea what this WineBottler, Darwine or Wine stuff is. Anyone care to fill me in?

Krispy Dingo
Minmatar
The Night Crew
Posted - 2010.10.07 20:07:00 - [28]
 

First, remember that Wine Is Not an Emulator!

It is a program that allows you to run certain types of Windows software on Unix based systems, like Linux and Mac OS X with intel chips (OS X is based off FreeBSD)

Read more here
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)?wasRedirected=true

Manssell
Posted - 2010.10.10 02:54:00 - [29]
 

Thanks Kripsy dingo! That fixed it for me.

Bongo0
Posted - 2010.10.11 23:17:00 - [30]
 

Hi I've tried to get EVEHQ to down load by clicking on the link but I get the following error:
HTTP 500 - Internal Server Error
Has something changed so that it will no longer work?

I have downloaded the other two fine and they work great in Wine. Thanks for that I've been wanting to use them for ages Laughing

Bongo


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