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AdmiralJohn
Gallente
Origin of Sanshaa
Posted - 2010.04.16 00:13:00 - [1]
 

...because the US military says there will be major shortages within five years.

What do you guys make of this?

While the US Department of Energy holds to its claim that peak oil is a long way off, the military is preparing itself for an unstable world once supplies dwindle. Whether this is true or not, do you expect this will mean changes in policy? Whatever happens, I expect we'll be hearing more of this in the coming years.

Amanda Eidolo
The Python Cartel.
The Defenders of Pen Island
Posted - 2010.04.16 00:39:00 - [2]
 

Every time something like this is published and publicized the price of oil increases; it's a never-ending headache for the House of Saud.

We're meant to feel bad about all this **** because we fuel our cars, fly overseas and demand fresh milk daily. How much fuel does a tank use every 100km? How much fuel does a passenger liner consume to move itself 1m?

What price sanity in this world of ours?

Umega
Solis Mensa
Posted - 2010.04.16 00:49:00 - [3]
 

It's the United States tellin' the rest of the world that within the next five years.. they ain't goin' to have the funding to protect our allies so you best prepare your own selves from any threats. You know like.. Iran, India, China, North K.. really, everyone keep on believing we're in a safe lil bubble devoid of any reason for any major esculating warfare ever again..

Good luck everyone else.

Toshiro GreyHawk
Posted - 2010.04.16 01:03:00 - [4]
 

Uh ... I forget ... what's the story on The Guardian ... as opposed to the Economist or the London Times ... as to how reliable a source they are ...


*sigh*

Wish I had a nickel for everything I've forgotten ...

Thank Goodness for Wikipedia ...

The Guardian


OK ...

As I already knew before I even read the article ... Rolling Eyes ...


Two things:

1) The US Military is in the business of preparing for the worst - while business is in the ... business ... of hoping for the best. So - the military looks at worst case scenarios and what they'll have to do to be ready for them if they happen. The problem is ... if you tell people - this is a worst case scenario they read - "this isn't going to happen" - when that isn't at all what it means. It means - this is the worst thing THAT COULD HAPPEN. The truth is - no one really knows - because there are to many variables. What if Iran ends up going to war with someone? What if it's Iraq? ... and or Saudi Arabia? What if Iran has nukes? So - if you're the military - and you're not an idiot - you argue as if the worst case scenario IS going to happen - because if you don't - the morons running the government will just assume that it WON'T happen. Then - if it does - you've got WWII or Korea all over again - when we're caught with our pants down and the people in the military spend a good bit of time dying because ... for whatever reason ... the US wasn't prepared.


2) News Papers are in the business of - selling news print. Specifically - the news print that contains their advertising. Thus - it is to their benefit to sensationalize everything they can get their hands on. If they don't - then people - being idiots - will buy their competitors news print and read the advertisements in it.



Now ... we need to move to energy sources other than oil because:


1) We are dependent not only on oil - but cheap oil.

2) We are going to need oil for something besides burning it up to generate heat (like fertilizers, plastics and lubricants).

3) Whether it runs out in 2 days or 200 years - it is going to run out sooner or later and the sooner we are not dependent on it the softer the landing will be.

*shrug*












Jago Kain
Amarr
Ramm's RDI
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2010.04.16 01:08:00 - [5]
 

Meh. More scaremonger from the lily-livered pinko subversive liberal press.

I mean - just look at the last paragraph from the article:

The Joint Operating Environment report paints a bleak picture of what can happen on occasions when there is serious economic upheaval. "One should not forget that the Great Depression spawned a number of totalitarian regimes that sought economic prosperity for their nations by ruthless conquest," it points out.

It could never happen in the real world.



AdmiralJohn
Gallente
Origin of Sanshaa
Posted - 2010.04.16 01:28:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Jago Kain
Meh. More scaremonger from the lily-livered pinko subversive liberal press.

I mean - just look at the last paragraph from the article:

The Joint Operating Environment report paints a bleak picture of what can happen on occasions when there is serious economic upheaval. "One should not forget that the Great Depression spawned a number of totalitarian regimes that sought economic prosperity for their nations by ruthless conquest," it points out.

It could never happen in the real world.

Oh no, never. Unthinkable, really.

Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Sigma Special Tactics Group
Posted - 2010.04.16 02:15:00 - [7]
 

My girlfriend has two horsies. Very Happy



Miliken
Posted - 2010.04.16 02:20:00 - [8]
 

Once gas goes over $75 a barrel and is predicted to stay there for a long time, it begins to become profitable to turn coal into oil. USA has tons of coal, but I think we lack the facilities for this.

IMHO: More wars will be fought over land rights for farming and water use in the future than for oil. Neutral

MooKids
Caldari
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.04.16 03:43:00 - [9]
 

Well, lets see. We already have a Middle Eastern war. If it gets to the point that the United States annexes Canada and China invades Alaska, things might get bad real fast.

Taua Roqa
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2010.04.16 04:32:00 - [10]
 

well i've done the simulation so i'm ready.

Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente
Shadow Templars
Posted - 2010.04.16 06:44:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 16/04/2010 06:44:19
There are plenty of negative sides by running out of oil and fuel, but I have to admit its fun: the world can not make war anymore because they lack the black gold to fuel their war machinery! LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing


Foodpimp
Gallente
Heaven's Harvesters
LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
Posted - 2010.04.16 06:50:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 16/04/2010 06:44:19
There are plenty of negative sides by running out of oil and fuel, but I have to admit its fun: the world can not make war anymore because they lack the black gold to fuel their war machinery! LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing




I think you underestimate the creativity inherent in humanity when it comes to the destruction of their fellow man.

Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente
Shadow Templars
Posted - 2010.04.16 06:56:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Foodpimp
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 16/04/2010 06:44:19
There are plenty of negative sides by running out of oil and fuel, but I have to admit its fun: the world can not make war anymore because they lack the black gold to fuel their war machinery! LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing




I think you underestimate the creativity inherent in humanity when it comes to the destruction of their fellow man.


I know. I guess it will be back to crude clubs and poles.


Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
Posted - 2010.04.16 09:15:00 - [14]
 

5 year plan to invade Venezuela.

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2010.04.16 09:35:00 - [15]
 

About time tomahawks made a big comeback

Thuranni
Eldjotnar
Posted - 2010.04.16 09:36:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Umega
It's the United States tellin' the rest of the world that within the next five years.. they ain't goin' to have the funding to protect our allies so you best prepare your own selves from any threats. You know like.. Iran, India, China, North K.. really, everyone keep on believing we're in a safe lil bubble devoid of any reason for any major esculating warfare ever again..

Good luck everyone else.


American arrogance never ceases to amaze.

Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente
Shadow Templars
Posted - 2010.04.16 09:57:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Umega
It's the United States tellin' the rest of the world that within the next five years.. they ain't goin' to have the funding to protect our allies so you best prepare your own selves from any threats. You know like.. Iran, India, China, North K.. really, everyone keep on believing we're in a safe lil bubble devoid of any reason for any major esculating warfare ever again..

Good luck everyone else.


No worries. We will just start making atomic bombs we can start throwing around if things starts getting out of hands Twisted EvilEvil or Very Mad


Abrazzar
Posted - 2010.04.16 10:02:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Abrazzar on 16/04/2010 10:02:41
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Quote:
I think you underestimate the creativity inherent in humanity when it comes to the destruction of their fellow man.


I know. I guess it will be back to crude clubs and poles.



Guess I'll have to acquire some titanium chainmai (or sharksuit) while it's affordable. ugh

Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network
Dignitas.
Posted - 2010.04.16 10:21:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: AdmiralJohn
...because the US military says there will be major shortages within five years.

What do you guys make of this?



Nothing lasts forever. Some say we already used up the oil reserves. No expert in this, but wouldn't surprise me. Glad I never made the license, and that I use my bycicle.

Dramund
Sodom Eye Systems
Posted - 2010.04.16 10:42:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Foodpimp
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 16/04/2010 06:44:19
There are plenty of negative sides by running out of oil and fuel, but I have to admit its fun: the world can not make war anymore because they lack the black gold to fuel their war machinery! LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing




I think you underestimate the creativity inherent in humanity when it comes to the destruction of their fellow man.


Way ahead of you. You would be surprised at how little you can regret having a safe full of guns. God bless America. YARRRR!!

Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente
Shadow Templars
Posted - 2010.04.16 10:46:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Dramund
Originally by: Foodpimp
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 16/04/2010 06:44:19
There are plenty of negative sides by running out of oil and fuel, but I have to admit its fun: the world can not make war anymore because they lack the black gold to fuel their war machinery! LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing




I think you underestimate the creativity inherent in humanity when it comes to the destruction of their fellow man.


Way ahead of you. You would be surprised at how little you can regret having a safe full of guns. God bless America. YARRRR!!



Yup. As soon you guys runs out of gasoline for your 1 gallon/per meter cars you will all run out on the street, each wearing a machine gun and granade launchers bringing the states to the world of Mad Max! Or should I say Mad Sam? Laughing


Lt Forge
Pilots Of Honour
Aeternus.
Posted - 2010.04.16 10:49:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Lt Forge on 16/04/2010 10:49:14
America should put more taxes on cars and promote bicycles.

The rest of the world should too.

Do it.

You no-brains.

Dramund
Sodom Eye Systems
Posted - 2010.04.16 10:50:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker

Yup. As soon you guys runs out of gasoline for your 1 gallon/per meter cars you will all run out on the street, each wearing a machine gun and granade launchers bringing the states to the world of Mad Max! Or should I say Mad Sam? Laughing




It is going to be awesome.

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2010.04.16 10:58:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Taua Roqa
well i've done the simulation so i'm ready.


Playing Fallout 3 doesnt count.

Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
Posted - 2010.04.16 11:08:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Vogue on 16/04/2010 11:08:46
Americans should drive far more economical diesel cars, suv's, pickups etc. Raise fuel tax to European levels. But then right wight commentators would say USA is turning into a pinko socialist European state that is going down the drain.

In New York and other major cities Police and taxi drivers run crap Ford Crown Victoria's that do like 17mpg in town, its daft.

Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
Posted - 2010.04.16 11:18:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Lt Forge
Edited by: Lt Forge on 16/04/2010 10:49:14
America should put more taxes on cars and promote bicycles.

The rest of the world should too.

Do it.

You no-brains.


The rest of the world did this ages ago.

Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente
Shadow Templars
Posted - 2010.04.16 11:19:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Nova Fox
Originally by: Taua Roqa
well i've done the simulation so i'm ready.


Playing Fallout 3 doesnt count.


Well, theres always the three-step-crash-course available, namely Mad Max 1, 2 and Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome! Surprised


Tozmeister
Digital Fury Corporation
Posted - 2010.04.16 11:50:00 - [28]
 

http://automobiles.honda.com/fcx-clarity/how-fcx-works.aspx

problem solved.


Jago Kain
Amarr
Ramm's RDI
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2010.04.16 12:26:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
My girlfriend has two horsies. Very Happy





Can I watch?



zombiedeadhead
Minmatar
The Tuskers
Posted - 2010.04.16 12:45:00 - [30]
 

U.S. military says 'Soon there will be no more oil, give us more money to buy tanks, planes, and guns so we can go invade a few more oil rich countries.' Nothing surprising here, or subtle.


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