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Qulbeg Khan
Posted - 2010.04.13 12:53:00 - [1]
 

Trying for "Crazy idea of the month".

This started out as a "quest" idea, some item in game, so valuable that everyone will want it, and will kill for it, but it's likely to be found by some noob who has no idea what it is until they get podded for it .. and then all hell breaks loose as different factions vie to control it.

So .. what about a device powerful enough to eradicate an entire system, cool, but losing a system off the grid kind of screws up the map - (could still be done) but lets stick with leaving EVE partially intact.

So what we start with, is that we first add to the game, a set of items, like narcotics that are not just flagged for piracy, but give you a global criminal flag as long as you hold them in cargo, and you cant dock while holding one either. So we then add a warning screen if you try to pick it up .. "Carrying this will give you a GCC.. do you really want to do this?" the GCC is for 15mins and every time it runs out, if you still carry it ... the GCC timer resets.

Then, we add in a BPC - single run for a Genesis Device that is one of these GCC items. The BPC will be unique, so only 1 copy ever appears in the game at any one time. Also, its fragile, if not used within, say, 3 months, it deteriorates and is put back into circulation somewhere - an L1 mission drop, Sleeper loot, container pops out of a roid or ice block. Totally random, and after the next DT.

You can pick it up, store it in cargo, but you are red flagged wherever you go and will get hunted by CONCORD. You can still jump though star gates, and move the object though high sec .. if you're fast enough to warp before CONCORD pops you :) (Being popped by CONCORD automatically destroys the fragile BPC and puts it back into circulation, randomly as above)

The BPC itself requires a small amount of a number (10-20) of random items - could be ore, minerals, a module, trade goods .. anything. Think of it as requiring a capital cargo bay, the protein derived from the blood of "livestock", a melted capacitor, a flask of C-50, a batch of blue pills and a Drone AI chip... every time it recycles the BPC changes - (hence the need to recycle at then next DT)

The randomness stops people from stockpiling the required goods in case they ever get their hands on the item.

Now - once you run the BPC (in a POS, since you cant carry the BPC into any station), you get a Genesis Device - size could be random too .. small enough to fit in a shuttle .. or maybe it needs a freighter, but, same as the BPC, you get GCC wherever you go.

Then you take the genesis device to any system you like and activate it.

At the next DT, a warning is sent out to all players with assets in the system that for unknown reasons, the sun at the centre of the system is going super nova and all citizens must evacuate. Warning message given to all players entering the system. A news item for sure.

Next DT after that (+24hrs) all services at all stations in the system cease. No CONCORD, No repair, no LP store, labs cancelled, market orders cancelled, plater clones moved to the nearest medical facility of the same NPC corp etc.

At a random DT after that (a few days) the system goes boom. Everything gets wiped out and all stations and assets in that system are deleted, even if you logged out in space, but are still in the system, you get podded. All gates inside the system survive but are non functional and the system is temporarily null sec.

A new sun, planets and belts are immediately generated into the system (just in case a WH appears).

Sometime later (3 days?) the gates reactivate and you can enter the system, but it is null sec. The Sec status rises at 0.1 per day as CONCORD re-enters (if necessary) until the system regains its old Sec Status. NPC corps then announce via the News of their intention to re-establish stations in the system (possibly different from before) and stations start to appear every few days until we're back to "normal".

Domonique Molvoy
Men of Questionable Moral Fibre
Posted - 2010.04.13 13:15:00 - [2]
 

You sir. are a Genius.

Gloria Stitz
Posted - 2010.04.13 13:20:00 - [3]
 


You should have been honest about the real name for the device.

'The Jita Bomb'

It would be hilarious

Laerok
Posted - 2010.04.13 13:23:00 - [4]
 

So all my stuff could blow up at some random time because someone managed to make a bomb out of cows, salvage and some gas.

Sounds like a golden plan worthy of a thread in 'Features and Ideas Discussion' for sure!

Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network
Dignitas.
Posted - 2010.04.13 13:26:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Qulbeg Khan
This started out as a "quest" idea, some item in game, so valuable that everyone will want it, and will kill for it, but it's likely to be found by some noob who has no idea what it is until they get podded for it .. and then all hell breaks loose as different factions vie to control it.



Why not call it just "The Key Of The Twilight" ? Wink

Le Zyx
Posted - 2010.04.13 13:26:00 - [6]
 

Indeed, but, somehow I doubt blowing up Jita, then in no particular order Amarr, dodixie, rens and hek would be a good thing.

Given the idea, I would also attach a beacon to the device, allowing it to be directly warped to.

Perhaps adjust your theory and have it instead attract the EVE gate to a system. Keeping in the eve uni.

This would be quite the tool in 0.0 warfare. Your timer would need to be longer, several days to account for the RF timer in a pos.





CCP Navigator


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2010.04.13 13:27:00 - [7]
 

Moved from General Discussion.

Qulbeg Khan
Posted - 2010.04.13 14:20:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Gloria Stitz

You should have been honest about the real name for the device.
'The Jita Bomb'
It would be hilarious


Yes I did consider that ... I knew that Jita would be a prime target, but it could be devastating on the economy. That's why I came up with the GCC idea... you could try to run it through high sec.. but you probably would not get far and should be attacked by both players and CONCORD along the way.

You might make it ... but "probably" not.

I also thought about a beacon idea.. but would prefer that perhaps a rumour its existence could get mentioned in the news reels, and then its up to people using Agents and LP points to locate it. I can see people swarming to the various choke points to catch it as it goes by ... hard luck if its moved around via wormholes.

Since its not stored in a star base, it would have to be in an outpost or POS which you could take to claim it. Then it becomes a real hot potato with everyone in Eve hunting you down.

One last issue is someone storing it (BPC or Device) in cargo ... and then logging. Maybe ... if its in your cargo .. since you have GCC.. your ship is never logged off - so you can be scanned down and popped (unless you have an scan proof Tengu or similar). If you have it .. and you get disconnected .. too bad .. that's the risk you take with this device on board.

Now .. wait .. he's the clincher. Once created the device will go off automatically in oh I dunno ... 7 days ... maybe .. for fun .. 4-10 days .. you just don't know :)

You have to move it or risk it detonating in your own home system. The idea is that you cant just build it in W-Space and wait almost forever for a WH to open up into Jita.

Megalift
Omni Tech Engineering
Needless Friends
Posted - 2010.04.13 15:29:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Megalift on 13/04/2010 15:31:07
Originally by: Qulbeg Khan
Yes I did consider that ... I knew that Jita would be a prime target, but it could be devastating on the economy. That's why I came up with the GCC idea... you could try to run it through high sec.. but you probably would not get far and should be attacked by both players and CONCORD along the way.


There are a few problems with this. First off CONCORD tend to srcam and blast ships very quickly. 2nd it is the custom agents at the gates that go after contraban not CONCORD. So by changing your idea to have the custom agents handle the role that CONCORD is to handle then you have an idea.

I would make it a POS array so that you have to have a POS up in the system to set the device. If it is an array, players can war dec the corp with the POS and possibly stop the device. Or in the case of 0.0 warfare, the sieging corp has to have defend the POS from seavral days as it deploys.

Not only are the stations going to be affected by such an device, but also the moons and the planets. The moons should be reseeded with moon mins, and the planets be reseeded with whatever they are going to do after the next patch.

This will indeed make life interesing in all of Eve - high, low, and null sec. I very much like this idea with some twicking.

Qulbeg Khan
Posted - 2010.04.14 01:38:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Qulbeg Khan on 14/04/2010 01:41:19
Originally by: Megalift
Edited by: Megalift on 13/04/2010 15:31:07
Originally by: Qulbeg Khan
Yes I did consider that ... I knew that Jita would be a prime target, but it could be devastating on the economy. That's why I came up with the GCC idea... you could try to run it through high sec.. but you probably would not get far and should be attacked by both players and CONCORD along the way.


There are a few problems with this. First off CONCORD tend to srcam and blast ships very quickly. 2nd it is the custom agents at the gates that go after contraban not CONCORD. So by changing your idea to have the custom agents handle the role that CONCORD is to handle then you have an idea.


That works.

Another idea could be to reduce the rapidity with which CONCORD pops people, but to maintain piracy balance, remove insurance from CONCORD attacks - problem is that that is a really touchy subject.

End of the day we don't really want the device to make it deep in High Sec so having it deployed only one or two jumps in is not that bad.
Originally by: Megalift

I would make it a POS array so that you have to have a POS up in the system to set the device. If it is an array, players can war dec the corp with the POS and possibly stop the device. Or in the case of 0.0 warfare, the sieging corp has to have defend the POS from several days as it deploys.



Hmmm.. Worth considering, as without CONCORD intervention you could move it deep into High sec and since you cant set up a POS in a place like Jita it would make very high sec systems safe from attack - though it would really screw with the trade routes for a while :)

Originally by: Megalift

Not only are the stations going to be affected by such an device, but also the moons and the planets. The moons should be reseeded with moon mins, and the planets be reseeded with whatever they are going to do after the next patch.

This will indeed make life interesing in all of Eve - high, low, and null sec. I very much like this idea with some twicking.


That is the point. of "everything except the stargates". Leaving the stargates in place means that the Eve Map remains static, but everything else is wiped from the board. With a "doomsday device" (what you think a DD is, not what is currently available in Eve) all you end up with is destruction - hence I went for a "Genesis" device which destroys everything, but then rebuilds a completely new system with new planets, new moons, new resources, and then, being a new system, attracts new corps for new starbases.

It would also make a few interesting days of reading in the Eve news.

Another idea to add: If the deployed device is a POS, then missioners in the surrounding systems start getting a "Please go an investigate" mission. Fly in, get within 150kms of the POS and fly out. Simple mission (if you have covert ops - probably needs to be Level 3 or 4 only) ... but it would quickly alert other Eve Players of what is happening and you should get a massive multi alliance siege..... would be cool if the lag issue was fixed.

Jerid Verges
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2010.04.14 03:19:00 - [11]
 

inb4 darius mccleaver

Torothanax
Posted - 2010.04.14 04:22:00 - [12]
 

I think most everyone has thought of some way or another to turn high sec into low/null. It's a cool idea, but wiping out everything in system goes against CCP's "You can take a break and come back to all your stuff" rule. What about players that are on an long afk from the game?

The idea doesn't bother me any, but I really doubt CCP would even consider it. We can continue to dream up crazy ideas though I guess.


 

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