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Karbowiak
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.04.11 20:28:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Karbowiak on 12/04/2010 08:55:30
Edited by: Karbowiak on 12/04/2010 08:55:00
Edited by: Karbowiak on 12/04/2010 08:30:29
Edited by: Karbowiak on 11/04/2010 21:53:42
People have been asking for a way to see how the fighting between the SC and NC have been going.

So EVSCO in collaboration with Peter Powers have decided to do something about this.

At this stage its very basic, but features will be added along the way.

Without further ado, i present you Northern Crusade

It updates daily during the downtime, so have your mails posted to by then

Update:

Here are some rules if your corp/alliance is not added to the list.
1. you have to be blue to either IT or MM/RZR
2. you have to actively participate in combat against either IT or MM/RZR

If you shoot at both parties, you cannot get on the list.
To get on it, evemail Karbowiak your corp/alliance name and what side you are on.

Northern Crusade link is permitted and has been added back into the OP. Navigator

Peter Powers
Gallente
FinFleet
Raiden.
Posted - 2010.04.11 20:33:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Peter Powers on 11/04/2010 20:39:01
a few notes:
- this uses the evsco database, so the numbers should be quite close to the actualls, since we all know that mails sooner or later end up there
- the kills number includes pods shuttles etc

Daedhead
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.04.11 20:38:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Daedhead on 11/04/2010 20:49:24
OUR K/D RATIO!!!!!

edit: if this board was meant to be objective it wouldn't be called "Northern Crusade" and everyone south of Vale/Cloud Ring would be on the "Crusaders" side but I'm sure you won't let that get in the way of the circle jerk Wink

(10:01:12) (frst) i know this must be hard for you
(10:01:18) (frst) but this has been happening for a long time
(10:01:20) (frst) for a reason
(10:01:20) (Karbowiak) lol
(10:01:24) (Karbowiak) what reason
(10:01:31) (Karbowiak) besides making the alliance look like Goon v2 ?
(10:01:45) (frst) because they dont fight correctly
(10:01:54) (Karbowiak) NC dont fight correctly?
(10:01:54) (frst) it has been proven
(10:01:57) (frst) time and again
(10:02:04) (frst) no dip****
(10:02:14) (Karbowiak) not that i care, but - we got our asses handed to us a fair few times sofar, lol
(10:02:22) (frst) what the ****
(10:02:23) (Karbowiak) im here for the fights, thats it
(10:02:25) (frst) why would you not care
(10:02:28) (frst) you better care
(10:02:34) (frst) and if youre here for the fights
(10:02:36) (Karbowiak) its a game man, lol
(10:02:38) (frst) then shut the **** up in local
(10:02:41) (frst) ^^
(10:02:46) (Karbowiak) and nope
(10:02:46) (frst) if i get called primary
(10:02:49) (frst) like i do
(10:02:51) (Karbowiak) local is win
(10:02:54) (frst) and i have a god tank
(10:02:59) (frst) they made the wrong choice
(10:03:03) (frst) if people are busy being ****ed off
(10:03:05) (frst) just like you
(10:03:13) (frst) then they are not making proper battle decisions
(10:03:17) (frst) so take you, being IT
(10:03:19) (frst) and multiply it
(10:03:23) (frst) by 100
(10:03:29) (frst) considering what i say is directed at them
(10:03:36) (Karbowiak) what..
(10:03:43) (frst) if you can get the **** over your local god savior bull****
(10:03:46) (Karbowiak) so, wait
(10:03:50) (Karbowiak) you spamming local with ****
(10:03:52) (Karbowiak) makes us fight better
(10:03:54) (Karbowiak) and NC fight worse
(10:03:59) (Karbowiak) eventho NC are killing our caps left and right
(10:04:07) (frst) i just got here
(10:04:10) (Karbowiak) so, local > killing caps ?
(10:04:20) (frst) and ive been in eve for a long time, and yes, absolutely
(10:04:23) (frst) in the past
(10:04:28) (Karbowiak) HAHAHAHA
(10:04:29) (frst) it has ****ed people we fight off enough
(10:04:34) (frst) it has mattered
(10:04:39) (frst) so if you cant learned to deal with it
(10:04:43) (frst) that's youre problem
(10:05:00) (frst) i mean, youre in IT and you had a petition fit
(10:05:03) (Karbowiak) so, even if we lost 5 titans
(10:05:06) (Karbowiak) it wouldnt matter
(10:05:10) (Karbowiak) cause we got the local smacktalking highground ?
(10:05:16) (Karbowiak) yeah, let me lol
(10:05:27) (frst) done with you
(10:05:32) (Karbowiak) thank god
(10:05:53) (Karbowiak) i could go out and dig a hole, and then look through the dirt and find worms more clever than you
(10:06:18) (frst) good one
(10:06:20) (frst) send it to local
(10:06:31) (Karbowiak) naw, not that kinda person
(10:06:34) (Karbowiak) but good talk

Nostradamous
Caldari
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas.
Posted - 2010.04.11 20:38:00 - [4]
 

Good stuff, well done sir. YARRRR!!

5QU199L35
Minmatar
Ghosts of Ragnarok
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2010.04.11 20:39:00 - [5]
 

\O/ WE'RE WINNING!!!

thoth rothschild
Gallente
Method of Destruction
Snatch Victory
Posted - 2010.04.11 20:40:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: thoth rothschild on 11/04/2010 20:41:21
ty

General Windypops
Gallente
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
Posted - 2010.04.11 20:53:00 - [7]
 

There must be something wrong with your killboard because it shows the NC having a HUUUUUUUUUG NAP list.

Karbowiak
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.04.11 20:54:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Karbowiak on 11/04/2010 20:56:23
Originally by: Daedhead
Edited by: Daedhead on 11/04/2010 20:49:24
OUR K/D RATIO!!!!!

edit: if this board was meant to be objective it wouldn't be called "Northern Crusade" and everyone south of Vale/Cloud Ring would be on the "Crusaders" side but I'm sure you won't let that get in the way of the circle jerk Wink



Well, seeing that both me and Peter Powers are on the opposite side of the NC, the name fitted better :P

And yes, its ment to be objective - seeing as it uses the EVSCO/EVE-KILL database - if you can make the BattleClinic people open up their database, we wouldn't mind using that instead, if that would help make you be less offended by its objectiveness.

But seeing as hell freezing over has a higher chance of happening, that aint gonna happen.

Oh and - win convo right? :P
I still dont like that douche Laughing

Tertiacero
Caldari
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.04.11 21:17:00 - [9]
 

Nice, this is pretty much exactly what was needed.

And to all of you whiners, it pulls from the board that is literally the master database that all your individual boards pull from/post to, so it's the most accurate and comprehensive list you're going to find for an overall day to day picture.

Might be nice to have a way to actually sort battle reports by alliance or nap (as opposed to the current system) so we don't get these botched battlereports Confused

Good job guys

ArdMinBG
Gallente
Strategic Syndicate
Posted - 2010.04.11 21:23:00 - [10]
 

Good job.

Could you change the name please? If you call it crusade this assumes there is something holy for SC in the north, while they do it purely for ISK-es

Depili
Caldari
Blood Works Inc.
Circle-Of-Two
Posted - 2010.04.11 21:26:00 - [11]
 

How are you calculating the stats? Do you simply take all kills/losses from the involved alliances and use that or do you only count kills made by the enemy alliances to the target alliances?

Peter Powers
Gallente
FinFleet
Raiden.
Posted - 2010.04.11 21:29:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Depili
How are you calculating the stats? Do you simply take all kills/losses from the involved alliances and use that or do you only count kills made by the enemy alliances to the target alliances?

only kills are counted where the victim is in one side, and at least one guy of the other side is in the killers list.
(podding a corpmate for fast travel wont be counted for example)

Vuk Lau
Gallente
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.04.11 21:29:00 - [13]
 

Seriously, if u guys are so an-al about kill/death ratio, at least have some decency to be partially objective in it, and make that list as it should be (standings.morsus-mihi.org). There are few more blues we have outside the list (some of the on list are nothing but renters but ok), but there are also, more then few IT/ROL pets operating in the area, being heavily involved in whole North Crusade and influencing it.

Not that you are well known as honorable (referring to whole SC), but if you want to show people the real results (for the ones who needs it) feel free to poke me and I will give you complete list for both sides (impartial one).


Karbowiak
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.04.11 21:34:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Karbowiak on 11/04/2010 21:47:06
Originally by: Vuk Lau
Seriously, if u guys are so an-al about kill/death ratio, at least have some decency to be partially objective in it, and make that list as it should be (standings.morsus-mihi.org). There are few more blues we have outside the list (some of the on list are nothing but renters but ok), but there are also, more then few IT/ROL pets operating in the area, being heavily involved in whole North Crusade and influencing it.

Not that you are well known as honorable (referring to whole SC), but if you want to show people the real results (for the ones who needs it) feel free to poke me and I will give you complete list for both sides (impartial one).




Hey Vuk..

We took the list as we could find via the killboards - and are open to editing it Smile

Please give me a list of all the involved on each side - and we will make it more correct :)
Ingame or via IRC..

As for the "ana-lity" of it all, everyone likes stats right? Razz

edit://
When you send the list, please list their operation area aswell.
And dont just add random alliances (or corporations not in an alliance) to the list, that arent actually involved in the war.

Everyone can have blues that arent involved, but still blue..
So, keep that as a consideration when you put together the list

Spike Spiegle
Caldari
Thundercats
Posted - 2010.04.11 22:17:00 - [15]
 


Just out of curiousity how does this system work if a kill has members of both sides on it (both friendlys and hostiles) does that count or get removed?

you know from smart bombs and bombs and stuff?

Karbowiak
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.04.11 22:21:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Spike Spiegle

Just out of curiousity how does this system work if a kill has members of both sides on it (both friendlys and hostiles) does that count or get removed?

you know from smart bombs and bombs and stuff?



if 1 pilot from SC and 1 pilot from NC is on the mail, its counted - if only 1 is (Say 1 NC but no SC, or 1 SC and no NC) it doesnt get counted.

Regardless of what weapon or whatever you used :)

Peter Powers
Gallente
FinFleet
Raiden.
Posted - 2010.04.11 22:23:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Spike Spiegle

Just out of curiousity how does this system work if a kill has members of both sides on it (both friendlys and hostiles) does that count or get removed?

you know from smart bombs and bombs and stuff?



basically as soon as one of the hostile side is on the killmail it will be counted for that hostile side.
if a friendly is on the killmail it will not be counted for the friendly side.

Example, a pilot, lets call him Peter Powers gets killed by some Pilot, lets call him Spike Spiegle, and some guy named Karbowiak for some reason ends up at the killmail too (he dropped a bomb)

Peter Powers belongs to Side1,
Spike Spiegle belongs to Side2,
Karbowiak belongs to Side1

This will be counted as a kill for Side2, but not as a kill for Side1 (since its a loss)

Lord Zulu
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2010.04.11 22:35:00 - [18]
 

Oh look at that we `crusaders` have killed more than the NC everyday

And I thought we losing this conflict well according to the NC we are they said it on COAD so it must be trueShocked

Lot's of love

Abriana Overlord
Caldari
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2010.04.11 22:36:00 - [19]
 

Good show chaps

In respect to k/d ratio think you should deal with this guy first..

Originally by: ArdMinBG
Edited by: ArdMinBG on 10/04/2010 11:14:42
Here is the next report/statistics made by me regarding the ongoing war between SC and NC.

The source data come again from dotlan (http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/X-7OMU/kills).
This time eve counter shows 506/155 ships/pods killed respectively and the data on killboard are for 470/170 killed ships/pods which makes data more representative for the complete picture. Still its funny to see more reported pod kills then what actually happened :)

The score after two days ongoing fights is:
NC lost 300 ships&pods for estimate value of 20,9 billion ISK
SC lost 345 ships&pods for estimated value of 22 billion ISK

Discuss.

Ba'Rumph
Caldari
The Really Awesome Players
Posted - 2010.04.11 22:38:00 - [20]
 

But, this makes it much more difficult to claim that you're winning when you're not. Crying or Very sad

Karbowiak
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.04.11 22:52:00 - [21]
 

YARRRR!!
Originally by: Ba'Rumph
But, this makes it much more difficult to claim that you're winning when you're not. Crying or Very sad



Its not saying who won what fight, so battle reports are very much still needed.
But it does show an overall picture.

RLCHANCE
Amarr
The Shadow Cartel
War and Pestilence
Posted - 2010.04.11 22:58:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: RLCHANCE on 11/04/2010 23:04:40
Edited by: RLCHANCE on 11/04/2010 23:01:36

NC is Winning on cap kills i think :P


And a Nutrul Party Should be doing this as u are in the attacking force to the NC [I thinks] so how do we no your doing things fearly WinkWink

this si War and Pestilence real status :) Killboard link removed.Applebabe

DeadDuck
Amarr
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2010.04.11 23:13:00 - [23]
 

I really think the Alliance list need some work but besides that, good job.

BTW regarding factions mods what price are they being calculated ? Market Price or Mineral one ?

TY


Tertiacero
Caldari
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.04.11 23:14:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: RLCHANCE
Edited by: RLCHANCE on 11/04/2010 23:04:40
Edited by: RLCHANCE on 11/04/2010 23:01:36

NC is Winning on cap kills i think :P


And a Nutrul Party Should be doing this as u are in the attacking force to the NC [I thinks] so how do we no your doing things fearly WinkWink

this si War and Pestilence real status :) Killboard link removed.Applebabe


You do realize that's an eve-kill kb, right? It's hosted by the OP. All the numbers in this service pull from the database that connects all the killboards that you guys are linking, right?

Please tell me you know this and are just trolling, cause otherwise I'll be forced to laugh at you.

RLCHANCE
Amarr
The Shadow Cartel
War and Pestilence
Posted - 2010.04.11 23:18:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: RLCHANCE on 11/04/2010 23:19:31


NC is Winning on cap kills i think :P


And a Nutrul Party Should be doing this as u are in the attacking force to the NC [I thinks] so how do we no your doing things fearly WinkWink

this si War and Pestilence real status :) []Killboard link removed.Applebabe[]

You do realize that's an eve-kill kb, right? It's hosted by the OP. All the numbers in this service pull from the database that connects all the killboards that you guys are linking, right?

Please tell me you know this and are just trolling, cause otherwise I'll be forced to laugh at you.


its not all conected evekb hold more kills for SICK than eve-kill doas

and dont try to be Smart dont look good on u


But very Nice Karb good Job Wink

Karbowiak
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.04.11 23:28:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: RLCHANCE
Edited by: RLCHANCE on 11/04/2010 23:19:31


NC is Winning on cap kills i think :P


And a Nutrul Party Should be doing this as u are in the attacking force to the NC [I thinks] so how do we no your doing things fearly WinkWink

this si War and Pestilence real status :) []Killboard link removed.Applebabe[]

You do realize that's an eve-kill kb, right? It's hosted by the OP. All the numbers in this service pull from the database that connects all the killboards that you guys are linking, right?

Please tell me you know this and are just trolling, cause otherwise I'll be forced to laugh at you.


its not all conected evekb hold more kills for SICK than eve-kill doas

and dont try to be Smart dont look good on u


But very Nice Karb good Job Wink


Your alliance is only a tiny part of the equation :P

But if you think your alliance makes a huge difference, add your feed to http://evsco.net/?a=feed

RLCHANCE
Amarr
The Shadow Cartel
War and Pestilence
Posted - 2010.04.11 23:35:00 - [27]
 

lolz = D i got told Cool


still NC killed more caps :)

Prissa
Amarr
The Unknown Bar and Pub
Posted - 2010.04.11 23:48:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Daedhead
Edited by: Daedhead on 11/04/2010 20:49:24
OUR K/D RATIO!!!!!

edit: if this board was meant to be objective it wouldn't be called "Northern Crusade" and everyone south of Vale/Cloud Ring would be on the "Crusaders" side but I'm sure you won't let that get in the way of the circle jerk Wink

(10:01:12) (frst) i know this must be hard for you
(10:01:18) (frst) but this has been happening for a long time
(10:01:20) (frst) for a reason
(10:01:20) (Karbowiak) lol
(10:01:24) (Karbowiak) what reason
(10:01:31) (Karbowiak) besides making the alliance look like Goon v2 ?
(10:01:45) (frst) because they dont fight correctly
(10:01:54) (Karbowiak) NC dont fight correctly?
(10:01:54) (frst) it has been proven
(10:01:57) (frst) time and again
(10:02:04) (frst) no dip****
(10:02:14) (Karbowiak) not that i care, but - we got our asses handed to us a fair few times sofar, lol
(10:02:22) (frst) what the ****
(10:02:23) (Karbowiak) im here for the fights, thats it
(10:02:25) (frst) why would you not care
(10:02:28) (frst) you better care
(10:02:34) (frst) and if youre here for the fights
(10:02:36) (Karbowiak) its a game man, lol
(10:02:38) (frst) then shut the **** up in local
(10:02:41) (frst) ^^
(10:02:46) (Karbowiak) and nope
(10:02:46) (frst) if i get called primary
(10:02:49) (frst) like i do
(10:02:51) (Karbowiak) local is win
(10:02:54) (frst) and i have a god tank
(10:02:59) (frst) they made the wrong choice
(10:03:03) (frst) if people are busy being ****ed off
(10:03:05) (frst) just like you
(10:03:13) (frst) then they are not making proper battle decisions
(10:03:17) (frst) so take you, being IT
(10:03:19) (frst) and multiply it
(10:03:23) (frst) by 100
(10:03:29) (frst) considering what i say is directed at them
(10:03:36) (Karbowiak) what..
(10:03:43) (frst) if you can get the **** over your local god savior bull****
(10:03:46) (Karbowiak) so, wait
(10:03:50) (Karbowiak) you spamming local with ****
(10:03:52) (Karbowiak) makes us fight better
(10:03:54) (Karbowiak) and NC fight worse
(10:03:59) (Karbowiak) eventho NC are killing our caps left and right
(10:04:07) (frst) i just got here
(10:04:10) (Karbowiak) so, local > killing caps ?
(10:04:20) (frst) and ive been in eve for a long time, and yes, absolutely
(10:04:23) (frst) in the past
(10:04:28) (Karbowiak) HAHAHAHA
(10:04:29) (frst) it has ****ed people we fight off enough
(10:04:34) (frst) it has mattered
(10:04:39) (frst) so if you cant learned to deal with it
(10:04:43) (frst) that's youre problem
(10:05:00) (frst) i mean, youre in IT and you had a petition fit
(10:05:03) (Karbowiak) so, even if we lost 5 titans
(10:05:06) (Karbowiak) it wouldnt matter
(10:05:10) (Karbowiak) cause we got the local smacktalking highground ?
(10:05:16) (Karbowiak) yeah, let me lol
(10:05:27) (frst) done with you
(10:05:32) (Karbowiak) thank god
(10:05:53) (Karbowiak) i could go out and dig a hole, and then look through the dirt and find worms more clever than you
(10:06:18) (frst) good one
(10:06:20) (frst) send it to local
(10:06:31) (Karbowiak) naw, not that kinda person
(10:06:34) (Karbowiak) but good talk


I see you bolded etc

Ba'Rumph
Caldari
The Really Awesome Players
Posted - 2010.04.11 23:53:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: RLCHANCE
lolz = D i got told Cool


still NC killed more caps :)


And SC killed more POSes Razz

Tibalt Avalon
Amarr
Blackwater Company.
Posted - 2010.04.12 00:59:00 - [30]
 

Edited by: Tibalt Avalon on 12/04/2010 01:03:37

No Titans Down Yet? Mad
Awesome Page btw, Very Handy, this Concept should be Adapted More Often.

Ohhh...
[yellow]Killmail links removed.Applebabe[yellow]


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