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Tobias Xiaosen
Total Xenophobia
Posted - 2010.03.27 17:00:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Tobias Xiaosen on 27/03/2010 20:14:51
Edited by: Tobias Xiaosen on 27/03/2010 19:49:53
Edited by: Tobias Xiaosen on 27/03/2010 17:57:59
Hey, I know by the nature of this topic it will get locked eventually, but I would like some explanation on this issue that most other forumites seem to be interested in as well.

Since you joined the moderating team, Adida, you have been enforcing rule 17 of the forum rules pretty often. I'm interested to know why.

Prior to you coming on the team, rule 17 was for most intents and purposes ignored by the other mods. In fact I had to go re-read the rules when you first said it existed because I had forgotten about it.

Rules are only rules when they are enforced. Rule 17 was never actively enforced before you joined the team. It was by convention among the players and moderators alike that the rule was disregarded.

So I guess my final point is this. Either go back to treating Rule 17 the way it was treated before you came on, or be consistent and lock ALL threads about other games, because right now you seem to be locking them at random (Mass Effect 2 thread?)

Also consider this my post to show my support for the removal of rule 17 entirely.

Originally by: Kirra Liu
I have no problem with the mod's enforcing the rules as that is why they are here but when we have been able to discuss other games in this section for years without any trouble then the rules could do with a review to bring them up to date and make things clear. Also considering that moderators, developers and games masters have joined in on discussions about games on here including I think even making threads themselves about other games then it certainly needs looking at. Right now people just feel there is mixed messages on the matter.

We should be allowed to discuss other games here as this section is for non-Eve related topics. The no politics and religion discussion rules are fair but a ban on games discussions just seems petty.

Irida Mershkov
Gallente
The Reformed
Chaos Theory Alliance
Posted - 2010.03.27 17:02:00 - [2]
 

Because enforcing the rules are the mods job, no matter how silly the rule is.

Jago Kain
Amarr
Ramm's RDI
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2010.03.27 17:16:00 - [3]
 

Silence!! Ve ask zer qvestions!!!



Mikelio Raijan
Celtic Anarchy
Posted - 2010.03.27 17:18:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Mikelio Raijan on 27/03/2010 17:31:21
Edited for ******ation.

Seriously, that's in there? Been browsing here since 04 and never seen it moderated. Embarassed

Tobias Xiaosen
Total Xenophobia
Posted - 2010.03.27 17:29:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Tobias Xiaosen on 27/03/2010 17:29:22
Originally by: Mikelio Raijan

Learn to read stickies please CCP Adida.


Originally by: CCP Zymurgist

5. You are not allowed to discuss other games in Out of Pod experience


Umm, so do you apparently Confused

Mikelio Raijan
Celtic Anarchy
Posted - 2010.03.27 17:39:00 - [6]
 

Well actually arn't we campaigning for removal of Rule #5 of OOP then? Seeing as rule #17 of general is totally countered by rule #2 of OOP.

Tobias Xiaosen
Total Xenophobia
Posted - 2010.03.27 17:44:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Mikelio Raijan
Well actually arn't we campaigning for removal of Rule #5 of OOP then? Seeing as rule #17 of general is totally countered by rule #2 of OOP.


While technically true, whenever CCP Adida locks a thread because of other game discussion, they reference rule 17 for all the forums instead of rule 5 for OOP. Not too mention I think it shouldn't just be rule 5 removed.

Mentioning other games in the other subforums isn't a problem, it just shows insecurity on CCP's part for upholding a rule like that.

Kirra Liu
Serenity Rising.
Posted - 2010.03.27 17:54:00 - [8]
 

I have no problem with the mod's enforcing the rules as that is why they are here but when we have been able to discuss other games in this section for years without any trouble then the rules could do with a review to bring them up to date and make things clear. Also considering that moderators, developers and games masters have joined in on discussions about games on here including I think even making threads themselves about other games then it certainly needs looking at. Right now people just feel there is mixed messages on the matter.

We should be allowed to discuss other games here as this section is for non-Eve related topics. The no politics and religion discussion rules are fair but a ban on games discussions just seems petty.

Tobias Xiaosen
Total Xenophobia
Posted - 2010.03.27 17:57:00 - [9]
 

Kirra, i'm adding your post as a quote into the OP, i agree completely with everything you just said

Kirra Liu
Serenity Rising.
Posted - 2010.03.27 18:01:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Tobias Xiaosen
Kirra, i'm adding your post as a quote into the OP, i agree completely with everything you just said


That's because I am always right..... well no ok but thanks, I can do well when I'm not raging in my posts. Very Happy

Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
Posted - 2010.03.27 18:24:00 - [11]
 

I demand she uphold rule 34

Dalmont Delantee
Gallente
Shiloh Technologies
Posted - 2010.03.27 18:36:00 - [12]
 


I want rule 69 enforced!

Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2010.03.27 19:54:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Tobias Xiaosen
Edited by: Tobias Xiaosen on 27/03/2010 17:29:22
Originally by: Mikelio Raijan

Learn to read stickies please CCP Adida.


Originally by: CCP Zymurgist

5. You are not allowed to discuss other games in Out of Pod experience


Umm, so do you apparently Confused
That is a recent change. It used to be "5. You are allowed to discuss other games as long as it is constructive and not related to EVE."

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2010.03.27 19:56:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Tobias Xiaosen
Edited by: Tobias Xiaosen on 27/03/2010 17:29:22
Originally by: Mikelio Raijan
Learn to read stickies please CCP Adida.
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
5. You are not allowed to discuss other games in Out of Pod experience
Umm, so do you apparently Confused
Lulz.. CCP stealth changed that line in the oope rules thread. It used to say discussing other games was fine as long as it was civil and constructive.

Bodrul
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.03.27 19:59:00 - [15]
 

postingin support of the first post Exclamation



Lance Fighter
Amarr
Posted - 2010.03.27 20:10:00 - [16]
 

http://eve-search.com/thread/1107760/page/1#1
^ rules page as of eve-search.

Yes, there has been indeed some ninja editing going on..

Jerreye
Posted - 2010.03.27 20:18:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Tobias Xiaosen
Edited by: Tobias Xiaosen on 27/03/2010 20:14:51
Edited by: Tobias Xiaosen on 27/03/2010 19:49:53
Edited by: Tobias Xiaosen on 27/03/2010 17:57:59
Hey, I know by the nature of this topic it will get locked eventually, but I would like some explanation on this issue that most other forumites seem to be interested in as well.

Since you joined the moderating team, Adida, you have been enforcing rule 17 of the forum rules pretty often. I'm interested to know why.

Prior to you coming on the team, rule 17 was for most intents and purposes ignored by the other mods. In fact I had to go re-read the rules when you first said it existed because I had forgotten about it.

Rules are only rules when they are enforced. Rule 17 was never actively enforced before you joined the team. It was by convention among the players and moderators alike that the rule was disregarded.

So I guess my final point is this. Either go back to treating Rule 17 the way it was treated before you came on, or be consistent and lock ALL threads about other games, because right now you seem to be locking them at random (Mass Effect 2 thread?)

Also consider this my post to show my support for the removal of rule 17 entirely.

Originally by: Kirra Liu
I have no problem with the mod's enforcing the rules as that is why they are here but when we have been able to discuss other games in this section for years without any trouble then the rules could do with a review to bring them up to date and make things clear. Also considering that moderators, developers and games masters have joined in on discussions about games on here including I think even making threads themselves about other games then it certainly needs looking at. Right now people just feel there is mixed messages on the matter.

We should be allowed to discuss other games here as this section is for non-Eve related topics. The no politics and religion discussion rules are fair but a ban on games discussions just seems petty.



I have a question for you: Why do you care? Is mentioning other games on the EVE forums a pastime of yours? Or are you trying to hit your pointless complaints quota for the month?

Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2010.03.27 20:23:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Jerreye
Originally by: Tobias Xiaosen
Edited by: Tobias Xiaosen on 27/03/2010 20:14:51
Edited by: Tobias Xiaosen on 27/03/2010 19:49:53
Edited by: Tobias Xiaosen on 27/03/2010 17:57:59
Hey, I know by the nature of this topic it will get locked eventually, but I would like some explanation on this issue that most other forumites seem to be interested in as well.

Since you joined the moderating team, Adida, you have been enforcing rule 17 of the forum rules pretty often. I'm interested to know why.

Prior to you coming on the team, rule 17 was for most intents and purposes ignored by the other mods. In fact I had to go re-read the rules when you first said it existed because I had forgotten about it.

Rules are only rules when they are enforced. Rule 17 was never actively enforced before you joined the team. It was by convention among the players and moderators alike that the rule was disregarded.

So I guess my final point is this. Either go back to treating Rule 17 the way it was treated before you came on, or be consistent and lock ALL threads about other games, because right now you seem to be locking them at random (Mass Effect 2 thread?)

Also consider this my post to show my support for the removal of rule 17 entirely.

Originally by: Kirra Liu
I have no problem with the mod's enforcing the rules as that is why they are here but when we have been able to discuss other games in this section for years without any trouble then the rules could do with a review to bring them up to date and make things clear. Also considering that moderators, developers and games masters have joined in on discussions about games on here including I think even making threads themselves about other games then it certainly needs looking at. Right now people just feel there is mixed messages on the matter.

We should be allowed to discuss other games here as this section is for non-Eve related topics. The no politics and religion discussion rules are fair but a ban on games discussions just seems petty.



I have a question for you: Why do you care? Is mentioning other games on the EVE forums a pastime of yours? Or are you trying to hit your pointless complaints quota for the month?
It is fair to say that over half of the threads and discussions that actually reach a decent length beyond five to ten posts is about gaming or other games. We are gamers. This is a forum belonging to a game we all play. Gamers, intuitively, like to discuss other games with people who play the same games they do, and share opinions on possible games to buy in the future.

Kirra Liu
Serenity Rising.
Posted - 2010.03.27 20:23:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Kirra Liu on 27/03/2010 20:24:55
Originally by: Jerreye


I have a question for you: Why do you care? Is mentioning other games on the EVE forums a pastime of yours? Or are you trying to hit your pointless complaints quota for the month?


Well considering that to a number of people the Eve forums is seen as an on-line community of people who share an interest together, people like to discuss a range of topics with each-other and some people even appreciate the opinion of others. Your comment about "pointless complaints" seems to be incorrect in this thread.

edit: What Blane said. And you seem to be complaining about people complaining :lol:

White Tree
Gallente
Broski Federation
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2010.03.27 20:52:00 - [20]
 

Mass Effect 2 is incredible CCP really need to deal with it.

Zedic
Amarr
Universalis Imperium
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2010.03.27 22:22:00 - [21]
 

I for one, do not welcome our over-moderating overlords. It wouldn't be a messageboard though without some "person" being all, "LETTAR OF TEH LAWZ!!!" on everyone. Rolling Eyes

tl;dr

Go away Adida, and take Navigator with you.

Myxx
Atropos Group
Posted - 2010.03.27 22:33:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Zedic
I for one, do not welcome our over-moderating overlords. It wouldn't be a messageboard though without some "person" being all, "LETTAR OF TEH LAWZ!!!" on everyone. Rolling Eyes

tl;dr

Go away Adida, and take Navigator with you.

Shadow > Adida. At least shadow doesn't spam.

Zedic
Amarr
Universalis Imperium
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2010.03.27 22:35:00 - [23]
 

Shadow > all.

I haven't seen any of the mods come as close to coolness / effectiveness as Shadow. They all fail in comparison. Too bad RL cloning isn't possible, we could demand clones of Shadow and toss the rest out on their ears.

ceaon
Posted - 2010.03.27 22:41:00 - [24]
 

Aventurine dont have this kind of stupid rules that make mods look like angrey mad kids on steroids
examples
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=240180
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=240155
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=214869


eve onlienm and CCP move step by step to lego online where u can say **** **** **** etc lego online have a excuse is made for 10 years old kids

Xen Gin
Silurian Operations
Posted - 2010.03.27 23:07:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: CCP Zymurgist

5. You are not allowed to discuss other games in Out of Pod experience



So you have to close threads related to Dust514? Since that is another game right?

Jerreye
Posted - 2010.03.27 23:19:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Blane Xero
]It is fair to say that over half of the threads and discussions that actually reach a decent length beyond five to ten posts is about gaming or other games. We are gamers. This is a forum belonging to a game we all play. Gamers, intuitively, like to discuss other games with people who play the same games they do, and share opinions on possible games to buy in the future.


BS. 99 out of 100 times that other, or any other game is mentioned it's in a terrible comparison, and the entire thread derails into an EVE vs other game discussion.

Most people get that, why don't you?

ceaon
Posted - 2010.03.27 23:29:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist

5. You are not allowed to discuss other games in Out of Pod experience



So you have to close threads related to Dust514? Since that is another game right?

Touché

Tobias Xiaosen
Total Xenophobia
Posted - 2010.03.27 23:30:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: Tobias Xiaosen on 28/03/2010 00:01:27
Originally by: Jerreye
Originally by: Blane Xero
]It is fair to say that over half of the threads and discussions that actually reach a decent length beyond five to ten posts is about gaming or other games. We are gamers. This is a forum belonging to a game we all play. Gamers, intuitively, like to discuss other games with people who play the same games they do, and share opinions on possible games to buy in the future.


BS. 99 out of 100 times that other, or any other game is mentioned it's in a terrible comparison, and the entire thread derails into an EVE vs other game discussion.

Most people get that, why don't you?


Jeez...

ok, let me break it down for you:

  • Gamers play games
  • Most gamers play more than one game
  • Gamers thus like to talk and share opinions on games
  • ONLY where other MMOs are concerned, are comparisons drawn with EVE


Besides, there isn't anything inherently wrong with making comparisons anyway...

I think you are just looking to get into a forum fight, ye little troll?

Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
Posted - 2010.03.27 23:32:00 - [29]
 

Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 27/03/2010 23:33:03
Originally by: Lance Fighter
http://eve-search.com/thread/1107760/page/1#1
^ rules page as of eve-search.

Yes, there has been indeed some ninja editing going on..



Lol. If your ****ty moderators lock threads that are explicitly allowed because they don't understand the forum rules, change the rules and pretend that's the way it's always been.



Or you could just admit that you made a mistake and stop sucking at your job.

Kirra Liu
Serenity Rising.
Posted - 2010.03.27 23:36:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Jerreye


BS. 99 out of 100 times that other, or any other game is mentioned it's in a terrible comparison, and the entire thread derails into an EVE vs other game discussion.

Most people get that, why don't you?


Well considering that most games cannot be compared with Eve I believe you are mistaken. Especially considering what was locked earlier was a thread where someone asked for some suggestions on what to get on his PS3, I really fail to see how that could derail into a (Metal Gear Solid 4 sucks and Eve is much better) scenario, if it did then obviously that would come down to trolling which is another issue entirely.


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