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Ahz
Posted - 2010.03.24 01:25:00 - [1]
 

Got some time to kill and I need a break from Eve.

Been hearing a bit about both these games.

Anyone have an opinion?

TimMc
Brutal Deliverance
Gypsy Band
Posted - 2010.03.24 01:35:00 - [2]
 

I haven't even played borderlands and I can say ME2 is a better choice. Its probably best game I've played in a long long time.

Assuming you've played the first one, you'll be in for a real treat.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2010.03.24 03:07:00 - [3]
 

ME2 has no multiplayer, single-player is decent to good (even if I personally liked Mass Effect 1 more for various reasons).
I finished ME2 at least once, and might do it again some day (diff. class, diff. difficulty setting, diff. ME1 pre-run, better or just different ending, etc). ME3 will be coming soon, and will be using ME2 saves.
Other than occasional framerate stutters, it remained playable almost all the time on lowest possible detail settings (which are far less adjustable "downwards" compared to the ones in ME1, so the "lowest" ME2 settings still look better than the average in ME1).

Borderlands has multiplayer, but single-player is at best "meh".
I never even got past halfway in the storyline, I became so annoyed with the lack of anything interesting in it that I just stopped playing it. The fact that my machine could barely get a half-decent FPS even at the lowest possible graphics settings (and then it looked like junk) wasn't at all any help whatsoever.
Never had been interested in the multiplayer part of it, so never tried it, can't say anything about it with certainty, neither good nor bad... but if the singleplayer is any indication, it can't be too great.


Yes, I have a crummy PC CPU (E2140, Dual Core @ 1.6), with a cheapish 8500 GT (512 MB), but at least I have 4 GB of RAM (well, 3.5 GB, actually, thanks to the 32-bit XP).
Even if it was already pretty low-end even when I purchased it 2++ years ago, that's more than enough for everything else I need that's not games-related, and most of the games I enjoy were running "good enough" on it, including EVE single-instance on "high" graphic settings... and since I seldom ever actively dual-box EVE, that's also good enough.
Granted, that makes me miss on some of the "shiny games of today", but I don't really feel I lost anything of importance by not playing games that just won't run on it for minimal acceptable playability.


Atomos Darksun
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.03.24 04:55:00 - [4]
 

If you liked Mass Effect, then you'll be in for a big disappointment when you play the sequel.

Graelyn
Amarr
Wolfsbrigade
Posted - 2010.03.24 05:32:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Atomos Darksun
If you liked Mass Effect, then you'll be in for a big disappointment when you play the sequel.


wut!?

Ahz
Posted - 2010.03.24 05:50:00 - [6]
 

What's all the lesbian talk about in this game?

Wild Rho
Amarr
Silent Core
Posted - 2010.03.24 07:15:00 - [7]
 

I'd definitely recommend Mass Effect 2. Border lands is ok online but single player is just plain dull. If you want to know a bit more about ME2 check out the thread on it a few pages back (be warned it contains spoilers though).

Deviana Sevidon
Gallente
Panta-Rhei
Butterfly Effect Alliance
Posted - 2010.03.24 08:45:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Deviana Sevidon on 24/03/2010 08:45:13
Mass Effect is a very linear game. Most of the time you can choose which side mission you want to take next, but thats it. I guess many people disliked the exploration side missions of ME1 so it got removed and the whole game resembles now the main story missions of ME1. Enjoyable if played for the first time, but thats it.

The game is very streamlined, most consider this fine but I do not. I guess I am just a different generation of gamers who don't want everything handed down. Streamlined means "dumbed down" for me.

I would be really happy if Bioware would create a new game like Baldurs Gate 2 but with a new setting, storyline and characters. Even with outdated 2D graphics it would be a must-buy for me.Razz

GM Horse

Posted - 2010.03.24 09:40:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Atomos Darksun
If you liked Mass Effect, then you'll be in for a big disappointment when you play the sequel.


Huh? I thought that ME2 was a vast improvement over ME1, though that too was good.

Anyway, I just finished Mass Effect 2. It's good. Really, really good. I can't recommend it enough.


Nathanial Victor
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.03.24 11:50:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Atomos Darksun
If you liked Mass Effect, then you'll be in for a big disappointment when you play the sequel.


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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
Posted - 2010.03.24 13:14:00 - [11]
 

Both games are good, but ME 1 was a fuller stand alone experience, that felt like something truly original. It had its share of issues too though. The second one wasn't as satisfying, so from my long time RPG-fan perspective:

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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2010.03.24 14:03:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Razin on 24/03/2010 19:22:44
You need to read this review of ME2. It's pretty much what I think about that game.

Edit: Just thought I'd add this quote from the review I linked above:

2) Space travel
Next time I'm at the helm of a massive space ship, I hope the interface for flying isn't a matter of scooching a teensy ship model around a picture of a nebula so the view scrolls over and I can see where I'm going. I don't know what Bioware was going for here, but every time Shepherd stepped up to that map display to zip around his toy ship, I pictured him making spaceship noises with his mouth. Pretty much what you'd expect from a guy who collects toys, Shenmue style, for his captain's quarters. Worst. Starship interface. Ever.

Karma
Vortex Incorporated
Posted - 2010.03.24 15:51:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Karma on 24/03/2010 15:52:35
Originally by: Atomos Darksun
If you liked Mass Effect, then you'll be in for a big disappointment when you play the sequel.


I see what you did there, and I approve ;)

I'll say go with Mass Effect 2. Borderlands was fun only for a few hours. the 'new car smell' wore off way too fast.
a million weapons? yeah, all weapons have the ability to have ~6 different types of stats.. then you randomize and increase the stats in tune with the level-progression... so all weapons are just variations on a theme. and there's no story to speak of.

ME2 on the other hand... has less weapons, perhaps.. but they're all cool and there's an actual story to speak of at great length ;)

Marko Riva
Posted - 2010.03.24 16:49:00 - [14]
 

Borderlands gives you more control over the game, and if you like finding/upgrading new weapons and gear etc you'll be better off with that. ME2 has an epic story and is very well made but if you strip away all the cool cinematics and all that the game itself is somewhat simplistic.

It depends on what you want, either an RPG with scavenging for weapons and upgrades or a cinematic rollercoaster. Borderlands is more of a game but ME2 is one of those "must have played" titles.

Sazkyen
Posted - 2010.03.24 17:43:00 - [15]
 

Borderlands is one of the most boring games I have ever played in my life. Terrible experience. It basically has no story. Think of Hellgate London. Now think of it without the story and most of the RPG elements removed. You end up with Borderlands.

Mass Effect 2 over Boringlands any time.

TimMc
Brutal Deliverance
Gypsy Band
Posted - 2010.03.24 17:47:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Destination SkillQueue
Both games are good, but ME 1 was a fuller stand alone experience, that felt like something truly original. It had its share of issues too though. The second one wasn't as satisfying, so from my long time RPG-fan perspective:


lol funny image but I don't agree with it. There is more to RPGs than stat building.

Barakkus
Posted - 2010.03.24 18:00:00 - [17]
 

I just finished Borderlands and am embarking on Playthrough 2 (which is just a harder version of the first run through, unlocks after you beat it once).

I like borderlands, it's one of the few games on the market right now that you can't really complete in 1 sitting. (I HATE ALL THE A.D.D. GAMERS THAT RUINED GAMING). If you're looking for something that will actually take more than 6-12 hours to complete, Borderlands is pretty good. The one thing I didn't like about it is the fact that it uses the Unreal engine. I hate the Unreal engine, it's not very realistic in it's physics and animation.

Borderlands was fairly entertaining if you're not one of the types that just quickly clicks through everything, there's quite a bit of humor in it.

I was a bit thrown off by the cartoonish graphics, but that was the intent of the designers, not lack of ability to do shiny Crysis type stuff.

I never got to play Mass Effect, my computer should have been able to run it, I purchased it, then found out later when I tried to run it that I happen to have an ATI card that was listed as incompatible (just happens to an odd model that won't run it, a bunch of similar and lesser models will), but that was burried deep in the knowledgebase, not listed anywhere in the system requirements or on their forums. I had to dig around for quite a while to discover it, thankfully direct2drive refunded me after I pointed it out, and without any fuss either.

JordanParey
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2010.03.24 18:58:00 - [18]
 

I think that the giant Mass Effect 2 thread speaks for itself, compared to the pretty meh responses to the thread about Borderlands.

Barakkus
Posted - 2010.03.24 19:03:00 - [19]
 

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1461-Mass-Effect-2

and

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1448-Borderlands

His reviews, while usually not very nice to the games, kinda give you an insight into what to expect :P

Taedrin
Gallente
Kushan Industrial
Posted - 2010.03.24 21:28:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: GM Horse
Originally by: Atomos Darksun
If you liked Mass Effect, then you'll be in for a big disappointment when you play the sequel.


Huh? I thought that ME2 was a vast improvement over ME1, though that too was good.

Anyway, I just finished Mass Effect 2. It's good. Really, really good. I can't recommend it enough.




Well, anyone with a face like THAT has GOT to be brain damaged, so your opinion doesn't count.

But seriously, I wouldn't say that ME2 was definitely worse than ME1 - it was just different. I still preferred ME1, as I felt like I had more freedom in the game. But I definitely see a lot of points where ME2 is better.

TimMc
Brutal Deliverance
Gypsy Band
Posted - 2010.03.25 10:41:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Barakkus
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1461-Mass-Effect-2

and

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1448-Borderlands

His reviews, while usually not very nice to the games, kinda give you an insight into what to expect :P


He hated eve. His opinions are more funny than factual of the average players experience.

Barakkus
Posted - 2010.03.25 16:45:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: TimMc
Originally by: Barakkus
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1461-Mass-Effect-2

and

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1448-Borderlands

His reviews, while usually not very nice to the games, kinda give you an insight into what to expect :P


He hated eve. His opinions are more funny than factual of the average players experience.


Nah, just over simplified :P
There is some truth to his commentary, saved me from getting really bad games, or made me kick myself for getting some.

If you take it all with a grain of salt, it's rather useful to weed out real garbage.

Thuranni
Eldjotnar
Posted - 2010.03.25 16:51:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Barakkus

Nah, just over simplified :P
There is some truth to his commentary, saved me from getting really bad games, or made me kick myself for getting some.

If you take it all with a grain of salt, it's rather useful to weed out real garbage.


His videos are not very good at all as reviews. His videos are humorous, and not more than that.

For instance, he reviewed Battlefield: Bad Company 2 recently without ever mentioning the multiplayer, and just slamming the single player; BC2 is a 100% multiplayer focused game.

Barakkus
Posted - 2010.03.25 16:53:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Thuranni
Originally by: Barakkus

Nah, just over simplified :P
There is some truth to his commentary, saved me from getting really bad games, or made me kick myself for getting some.

If you take it all with a grain of salt, it's rather useful to weed out real garbage.


His videos are not very good at all as reviews. His videos are humorous, and not more than that.

For instance, he reviewed Battlefield: Bad Company 2 recently without ever mentioning the multiplayer, and just slamming the single player; BC2 is a 100% multiplayer focused game.


Which would make me not get it, if I buy something that's not an MMO, then it's for single player, and if the single player of a fps sux, I definitely won't get it...like one of my bigger mistakes of purchasing Section 8, the single player takes a whole hour and a half to complete...complete garbage.

Not everyone who plays non-MMO games likes playing them online :P

Biterno Sintaph
Gallente
Suddenly Failure
Posted - 2010.03.25 19:26:00 - [25]
 

Borderlands is a good game if you like finding better and better weapons all the time. If great twitch-based FPS play and finding smexy new drops every 15 minutes makes you wet, get Borderlands. Unfortunately the plot and its ending were absolutely terrible. DLC doesn't help.

Personally, I'd go Mass Effect 2. Doesn't have the FPS-feel I got from Borderlands, more like "run forward, crouch, stand, 3 round burst, crouch, repeat". However, I'm willing to ignore that for an immersive storyline and the feeling like I'm actually changing the world.

Reiisha
Veto Corp
Posted - 2010.03.25 19:58:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Atomos Darksun
If you liked Mass Effect, then you'll be in for a big disappointment when you play the sequel.


Ignore this guy, he's just angry that he doesn't have infinite ammo anymore.

NeoShocker
Caldari
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2010.03.27 19:49:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: NeoShocker on 27/03/2010 19:49:32
Originally by: Reiisha
Originally by: Atomos Darksun
If you liked Mass Effect, then you'll be in for a big disappointment when you play the sequel.


Ignore this guy, he's just angry that he doesn't have infinite ammo anymore.


Haha, that might be true.

Anyway, I highly recommend ME 2. Played soldier sheppard male on first run. On 2nd run for female sheppard for biotic and people say the voice actor for female is ton better than the make one and I agree. both of first run is Paragon.

After the 2nd run, gonna do male shaeppard for the evil side, dunno what to go with, but probably to use snipers YARRRR!!

I do recommend getting ME 1 also though.

Bodrul
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.03.27 20:09:00 - [28]
 

MASS Effect 2 ruled :D
Finished it 3 times

i am just stuck on 1 thing and i will be 100% on all jobs
how do i get a forged ID :(



xXaRaXx
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.03.27 22:39:00 - [29]
 

Edited by: xXaRaXx on 27/03/2010 22:39:38
Why has this thread not been locked? I made a similar thread and it got locked within 24 hours of creation by a forum moderator, because of rule 17 or something like that. A bit unfair :(

TimMc
Brutal Deliverance
Gypsy Band
Posted - 2010.03.27 23:42:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Bodrul
MASS Effect 2 ruled :D
Finished it 3 times

i am just stuck on 1 thing and i will be 100% on all jobs
how do i get a forged ID :(





You find it at the end of one of the loyalty missions. If you miss it then you just miss it. Using the forged IDs is a renegade option anyway.


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