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HankMurphy
Minmatar
Pelennor Swarm
Posted - 2010.03.19 18:35:00 - [61]
 

All the parking tickets I've ever received over the last 10 years are in my glove box. Unpaid.


I was worried at first (not worried enough to pay), however it appears the only way this might bite me in the arse is if I ever need another high security clearance in my life. (the only checks i know of where they might show up).

Various municipals, cities, different states, no one has ever tried to chase me down for them. But i'm in the U.S., yours is surely different

Yesh
Unjustified Ancients of MuMu
Posted - 2010.03.19 18:41:00 - [62]
 

I got ticketed about a month ago. I got angry and ripped the ticket from under the wiper and threw it away. Assuming there is no CCTV evidence (unlikely as I live in the UK) can I get away with saying I knew nothing about it when they inevitably track me down or when I get flagged on the police computer and stopped. If I say I knew nothing about the ticket can I simply offer to pay the original fine instead of the the doubled late payment fine?


Nebulous
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.03.19 18:44:00 - [63]
 

Originally by: Jago Kain

but they ruled in the UK govts favour so they continue to surprise bum-poke your rights even as we speak.


This, what is frustrating is that as a "people" we shouldnt stand for this ****, what they are doing is wrong full stop, not only do the people not fight it but due to subliminal social engineering they actually embrace it. Another tactic of the courts that I have been noticing lately is completely irrelevant quotes being made in court to aid prosecution i.e. "he was going 36mph in a 30mph zone, and what makes this even worse is that he was driving past a school at the time", that kind of statement should be trampled over by the judge/magistrate but it isn't, it would be like saying "he was going 80mph on the 70mph motorway, at the exact time of the speeding offence he was overtaking a young lady who could potentially become the mother of a future heir to the throne", yes a ridiculous example but it is exactly the same as pointing out that any speeding offence happened in a particular place.


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Nebulous
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.03.19 18:52:00 - [64]
 

Originally by: Yesh
I got ticketed about a month ago. I got angry and ripped the ticket from under the wiper and threw it away. Assuming there is no CCTV evidence (unlikely as I live in the UK) can I get away with saying I knew nothing about it when they inevitably track me down or when I get flagged on the police computer and stopped. If I say I knew nothing about the ticket can I simply offer to pay the original fine instead of the the doubled late payment fine?





By putting the ticket on your windscreen they can not prove you recieved it, when they do catch up with you, you have two choices, you can either say there was no ticket on your car but now you are aware you will be happy to pay the "original" amount (which they will probably agree to), or you can fight their attempt to steal your money, the choice is yours.

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Tallaran Kouros
Cryptonym Sleepers
Posted - 2010.03.19 20:23:00 - [65]
 

Originally by: Jago Kain

Anything you say to a copper can be used against you in a court. However if you say nothing, contrary to popular belief, there is no inference that can legally be drawn from that.

That's two things you've been hopelessly wrong on today Reaper... going for a third?



It was me that said that inference can be drawn, and it is YOU that is wrong and if you don't believe me, you can check for yourself in the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994, Sections 34-39.

http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?LegType=All+Legislation&title=criminal+justice&Year=1994&searchEnacted=0&extentMatchOnly=0&confersPower=0&blanketAmendment=0&sortAlpha=0&TYPE=QS&PageNumber=1&NavFrom=0&parentActiveTextDocId=2156203&ActiveTextDocId=2156249&filesize=48131

ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Underworld Protection Agency
South Pole Dancers
Posted - 2010.03.19 20:34:00 - [66]
 

Originally by: Jago Kain
That's two things you've been hopelessly wrong on today Reaper... going for a third? Very Happy






I put a "correct me if I'm wrong" disclaimer at the end of my post, so that makes me immune from ridicule on that one. Dare I ask what the first thing I'm wrong about was?

Jago Kain
Amarr
Ramm's RDI
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2010.03.20 00:12:00 - [67]
 

Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Originally by: Jago Kain
That's two things you've been hopelessly wrong on today Reaper... going for a third? Very Happy






I put a "correct me if I'm wrong" disclaimer at the end of my post, so that makes me immune from ridicule on that one. Dare I ask what the first thing I'm wrong about was?


Sure.

It was the Clio in front of the truck. I maintain that the trucker can't have seen it (see thread for long winded explanation)... any sane person would have stopped if they had surely?

No biggie... nd you should know by now that no-one is immune to ridicule on the EVE forums. Very Happy



Nebulous
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.03.20 06:41:00 - [68]
 

Edited by: Nebulous on 20/03/2010 06:56:16
Originally by: Tallaran Kouros
It was me that said that inference can be drawn, and it is YOU that is wrong and if you don't believe me, you can check for yourself in the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994, Sections 34-39.


You are both right and wrong, it is all very dependant on the case, the ultimate truth of the matter is that being silent does you less harm than it does if you spill your guts out, innocent or not. It all boils down to the age old "innocent until proven guilty", by answering questions you are trying to prove your innocence, which you are not obliged to do and no amount of "statute" quoting can take that away.

Remember the "right to remain silent" is born from "common law", all statutes and acts of parliament are subordinate to it.



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Odium Devotus
Posted - 2010.03.20 18:57:00 - [69]
 

Originally by: baltec1
My favorate was when they clamped a fire engine so the firemen got the jaws of life outTwisted Evil

Shocked
Laughing
dont they know, firefighters have keys to the city





Caldari Citizen20090217
Posted - 2010.03.21 00:40:00 - [70]
 

Edited by: Caldari Citizen20090217 on 21/03/2010 00:43:05
Originally by: Mister Gimp
Hi,

I represent the lower percentile of the UK's IQ, EQ and daily mail reading yowling mob mentality.

My advice to you is if you get stiffed by a parking ticket ... dont get mad, get even!

This is obviously just role play, I would never do this in real life, but when you get shafted for an 80 fine there is nothing you can do to get this money back. SO, you may as well deny the local authorities from using your 80 by causing 80 worth of damage to local council property.

Yes, I am talking about mindless vandalism! I find (during my role playing nights) that a tube of araldite squirted in to a pay and display machine warrants an engineer call out and replacement parts that come to in excess of the fine I received.

If this happens every time a scum slaps a ticket on you then maybe the ridiculous 'job for life cos local govt is so ****ing soft' bureaucrats that are already milking us dry with council tax for the most lacklustre of public services will realise there is no profit in ****-ism and have a rethink about town centre parking ******s and allow us to park for free in our town centres and maybe even boost dyeing town centre trade by doing so.

Doubtful, but at least you get a warm fuzzy feeling from stiffing them back.

PS OK so seriously, parking enforcement is needed to stop people from parking on double yellows thinking that a car can squeeze through that gap but neglecting to think about a lorry or a bus wont be able to squeeze through that gap and causing gridlock. But to victimise people for overstaying parking times by 2 minutes whilst they were spending MONEY at LOCAL SHOPS and SERVICES is just wrong!

I'm out of breath now. I wont go on, but seriously .... traffic wardens, local govt traffic dept and wheel clampers are scum!!! (ingame)


Problem is this just results in MOAR taxes to pay for it all, and an excuse
to impose more council taxes and sacrifice civil liberties for more "security". Pity 'cos this
guy has the right idea (tho he does risk prosecution).

Or make a list of names first up against the wall when the revolution comes Twisted Evil

Honestly tho, the best weapon is informing as many people as possible of their options.
If you are really dedicated get legal training and go defend the little guy. The OP
mentioned the fine was initially misrepresented as a PCN, which is surely actionable in some way?
Edit: made fit on the screen


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