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Codeguard
Posted - 2010.05.19 09:10:00 - [151]
 

Edited by: Codeguard on 19/05/2010 09:13:09
Originally by: Milhibethjida
However, I'd like to ask for your advice: Most of my stuff qualifies as green (refine over sell), even though the loss % is 50% or higher (up to > 90% in rare cases) for the vast majority of items. I chose The Forge prices and Sell Median as settings, and I left the color coding at default values (red if <= 50% of sell price, green if >= 100% of sell price). Refinery Efficiency is at 100%, tax at 0%. At the same time, there are other items with a loss percentage of 50% or lower that show a blood red background. This seems to be a contradiction (some items being green while others being red at the same Loss % or even lower Loss % than other items with green background). Could you please point out how to correctly interpret your color coding in combination with Loss % and Delta?


This is most likely due to small ISK losses. There's a cutoff value seen in options. If you lose only 1 isk per batch, who cares if it's 1% loss or 99% loss?

Originally by: Hanneshannes
I do have a question about a thing I never worried about before though:

[The question is about "Station refining equipment" slider in options]

Different stations have different equipment. Even in empire, you will see stations having no refinery, having smth around 37.5% base yield and 50% base yield. This is especially important if you're using an outpost.

Milhibethjida
Amarr
FoX-RaY
Posted - 2010.05.19 13:06:00 - [152]
 

Originally by: Codeguard
This is most likely due to small ISK losses. There's a cutoff value seen in options. If you lose only 1 isk per batch, who cares if it's 1% loss or 99% loss?

Thank you, this seems to be the case.

A feature I would like to request: Could you please enhance the tool so that it would become possible to compare two different price settings (with only one of them influencing colour coding, Delta, Loss% etc. of course)? For example, if I wanted to sell or refine my collection of 125mm Railgun I's, the "BuyMax"-setting would clearly tell me to refine, wheras the "SellMedian"-setting would keep me from doing so. The reason (in this particular example) is the great difference between the median sell price and the maximum ISK sum that players are usually bidding when entering buy orders. It would be helpful if I could compare those two settings (or any other two settings, for that matter) while still seeing my refinery cost, just to keep me from refining the rather valuable stuff because I had the wrong setting selected at the time.

Codeguard
Posted - 2010.05.19 13:19:00 - [153]
 

I don't quite get it.
If you decide based on one of the price types, why would you need the second? If you decide based on second, just switch to it?

Milhibethjida
Amarr
FoX-RaY
Posted - 2010.05.20 15:50:00 - [154]
 

For example: Suppose I want to know if I should refine or sell my 'Malkuth' Rocket Launcher I modules. I decide to use BuyMax as the base of my calculations and EveRefinery tells me to refine the modules (the Delta is 11 802.45 ISK). However, when using SellMedian, the Delta changes to -153 674.85 ISK. So in this case, using BuyMax would cost me more than 140 000 ISK of profit. Had I had the opportunity to compare the two settings, I could have avoided the loss (granted, it would also be possible to simply switch between the two, but doing so for every item of interest would pretty soon become tedious, thus the request of adding some kind of comparison feature).

Basically, it would be a convenient addon to an already great program.

Codeguard
Posted - 2010.05.21 11:37:00 - [155]
 

Edited by: Codeguard on 21/05/2010 11:40:21
Even if this is to be implemented, it would be done at a low priority, as i don't feel this is in demand. So far, you could consider two-passing all items.

I should also note that the root of your problems should be using incorrect price type, ie BuyMax, while you actually want SellMedian.

Codeguard
Posted - 2010.05.27 15:11:00 - [156]
 

Updates are out: new Tyrannis data (whatever it is) and Meta Level column. Too lazy to do anything else, sorry :)

J'J'J'Jita
Ch'Ch'Ch'Chia Corp
Posted - 2010.05.27 16:25:00 - [157]
 

thanks for the meta column, will try the update later!

Jackomel
Gallente
Posted - 2010.05.28 05:00:00 - [158]
 

Great program, too bad for tha API lockout stuff, I'd like to request support for user defined API caching proxies so that people can avoid having the program lock the API for other programs that have no support

Codeguard
Posted - 2010.05.28 13:02:00 - [159]
 

As far as i know asset API's are no longer locked out. They simply return the old data until the cache time expires.

Vitamin B12
Posted - 2010.05.28 13:55:00 - [160]
 

thanks for the tool but we dont need it anymore. there is no money in the loot since tyrannis! Embarassed

Codeguard
Posted - 2010.05.28 16:08:00 - [161]
 

less loot != no loot

Jackomel
Gallente
Posted - 2010.05.30 18:22:00 - [162]
 

Originally by: Codeguard
As far as i know asset API's are no longer locked out. They simply return the old data until the cache time expires.

you sure? if I get the assets with this program I'm not allowed to get it with any other until the lockout expires

Codeguard
Posted - 2010.05.30 18:58:00 - [163]
 

Just try it.

Jackomel
Gallente
Posted - 2010.05.31 07:23:00 - [164]
 

ok you might be right, I'm still not entirely sure on this though

Tom Peeping
Posted - 2010.05.31 16:32:00 - [165]
 

Hey nice program man! I did the same thing but with excel files. Your method seems to take less work though. Nicely done!

Drykor
Minmatar
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2010.05.31 18:31:00 - [166]
 

Edited by: Drykor on 31/05/2010 18:30:59
Nice app!
Now I know I have 75k proton S which takes up a big part of my total of 661k items.
Total isk value on my main is 3,4 billion, not too bad :)

Davo OHno
Posted - 2010.06.07 13:27:00 - [167]
 

Salute!

I just wanted to pass along my thanks for a great program. I was a bit confused with all the data available, but eventually made sense of it all. That is just a newb trying to get a grasp on this Eve universe for the most part.

One of the most useful apps I have found yet. I think I need like five screens to run various apps and the game client at the same time. LOL

Thank you for putting your time into a useful app for the community.


Codeguard
Posted - 2010.06.08 10:49:00 - [168]
 

You're welcome :)

PS: Honestly I don't put so much effort into it, now that I'm pretty much satisfied with the program and I've always been lazy :)

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.06.08 17:48:00 - [169]
 

OP thanks for the great program.

I had tried it on wine in linux but .net framework in there is meh at best. ran it on the laptop and im already saving ISK.

Tehd
Posted - 2010.06.10 14:22:00 - [170]
 

I've been looking for an app to help me divide loot when running missions with a buddy. I normally figure sell & refine prices of loot and salvage, give my buddy cash, then sell the loot at my leisure.

This app is useful in that regard, but it would be so much better if I could check all the stuff that I would refine and get a total then all the stuff that is to be sold to get a total as well as salvage and other non-refinable items.

suckitdonks
Posted - 2010.06.10 15:05:00 - [171]
 

Edited by: suckitdonks on 10/06/2010 16:39:27
Nevermind.. uninstalled MSFW 4 and installed 3.5 and it worked

Codeguard
Posted - 2010.06.10 17:53:00 - [172]
 

I thought about making subtotals for refining and selling, but meh, I'm too lazy :)

Berikath
Posted - 2010.06.10 18:56:00 - [173]
 

Throw my name in for a request to be able to filter items by meta level (ex, only see meta 4 items) and type (like only modules or charges).

Smendrik Von'Smendle
Posted - 2010.06.19 19:11:00 - [174]
 

buy* does not seem to be working for certain items (siege missile launcher is one) anyone I choose shows the same price for those certain items.

Codeguard
Posted - 2010.06.22 14:40:00 - [175]
 

If there's a single price for an item sold in region, then obviously, all sorts of medians, averages an min-max will show the same number.

Ierescor Luclin
Posted - 2010.06.24 19:38:00 - [176]
 

Originally by: Codeguard
You're welcome :)

PS: Honestly I don't put so much effort into it, now that I'm pretty much satisfied with the program and I've always been lazy :)


When will you release the code? If you're not going to.. then let us know.. an open source option will be started.


Codeguard
Posted - 2010.06.25 20:36:00 - [177]
 

Edited by: Codeguard on 25/06/2010 20:36:51
I hate you. I wanted to keep it to myself, but you guys get me really bored keeping nagging about opensource :(
http://sourceforge.net/projects/everefinery/

Oylmpia
Minmatar
Halinallen veroparatiisi
Inglorious Carebears
Posted - 2010.06.30 19:54:00 - [178]
 

Thanks for this.. a great program to help with deciding what method to use to get rid of the loot :)

LordGenesis
Caldari
Posted - 2010.07.10 22:32:00 - [179]
 

thx this nice programVery Happy

Stark Midular
Posted - 2010.07.12 05:12:00 - [180]
 

I must be doing something wrong. I don't understand what this program is trying to tell me. Practically everything comes up as green, whether the sell price is higher than the refined cost or lower. The "appearance" settings are still at their defaults, yet the program isn't really giving me any useful information.

Any help would be appreciated!


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