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Alpha Spinecone
Posted - 2010.03.13 11:55:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Alpha Spinecone on 13/03/2010 12:08:20
Edited by: Alpha Spinecone on 13/03/2010 11:57:32
I plan to use it mainly as a missile boat, and I currently have 2 medium lasers (one of the ones with the long needlessly complex name to show they are slightly better than normal ones)

I know caldari use rails, but the ferox has no bonus to them, at least not ones I saw.

So, can anyone recommend some mids and lows?


Edit: Just noticed it does have bonuses to railgun range.

Meh, last time i used cruiser rails, I coulda done more damage throwing rocks at them.

Duchess Starbuckington
Posted - 2010.03.13 12:11:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Duchess Starbuckington on 14/03/2010 01:13:01
Edited by: Duchess Starbuckington on 13/03/2010 12:12:43
Quote:
I plan to use it mainly as a missile boat


[Drake, PVP]
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
Stasis Webifier II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
[empty high slot]

Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I


Warrior II x5




[Drake, Missions]
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Photon Scattering Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Shield Recharger II
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
[empty high slot]

Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I


Hobgoblin II x5

(Something like that, I've not used a PVE Drake in a long time)

TraininVain
Posted - 2010.03.13 12:12:00 - [3]
 

I recommend you get a drake.

Alpha Spinecone
Posted - 2010.03.13 12:17:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: TraininVain
I recommend you get a drake.


I would dearly love to, but until I can raise the money in this ferox, its gonna have to do.

Alpha Spinecone
Posted - 2010.03.13 12:22:00 - [5]
 


Hey, as a little side thing, can someone tell me why rifters are so amazing please?

Duchess Starbuckington
Posted - 2010.03.13 12:26:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Alpha Spinecone

Hey, as a little side thing, can someone tell me why rifters are so amazing please?


Because they're fast with cap-free weapons, generous fitting and a good slot layout. They just have no glaring bad points, unlike for example the Punisher. It has a better tank than the Rifter but one less mid makes it a lot less versatile.

Alpha Spinecone
Posted - 2010.03.13 12:29:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Duchess Starbuckington
Originally by: Alpha Spinecone

Hey, as a little side thing, can someone tell me why rifters are so amazing please?


Because they're fast with cap-free weapons, generous fitting and a good slot layout. They just have no glaring bad points, unlike for example the Punisher. It has a better tank than the Rifter but one less mid makes it a lot less versatile.


So, the best overall frig, rigth?

Kery Nysell
Caldari
Nysell Incorporated
Posted - 2010.03.13 12:30:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Kery Nysell on 13/03/2010 12:32:28
If you want a missile based Caldari BC, use a Drake.

But, as a way to raise ISKies for a Drake, I could somewhat see a Ferox with as many Heavy Launchers as possible ... or sell the Ferox and do some level 2 or 3 missions in a Caracal with heavies ...

TraininVain
Posted - 2010.03.13 12:32:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: TraininVain on 13/03/2010 12:34:46
Yeah, it's the best overall frig.

The others might do one thing better but the rifter is the best total package.

It's a nice versatile hull.

Hmmm. If you're really stuck with a ferox I'd say just passive shield tank it like the above drake fits.

You want at least two large shield extenders, two SPRs and if you can afford it, purgers. Rest of mids should be mission specific hardeners. Rest of lows should be Ballistic Control Units and highs should be missile launchers.

I don't recommend flying a ship you can't afford to lose though (if you can't afford a drake, you can't afford to lose a ferox).

Admiral Pelleon
White Shadow Imperium
Posted - 2010.03.13 12:40:00 - [10]
 

You have yet to supply a use for this ship. PvE? PvP? It's going to be horrible at both, but you might as well be specific.

Patri Andari
Caldari
Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
Posted - 2010.03.13 14:41:00 - [11]
 

Firstly, you would be better off in a Drake.

That being said, you can make your Ferox work for now by fitting it similar to the Drake setup (PVE) in Dutchess Starbuckington's post above. Assuming poor skills, you may have to use PDU instead of BCS.

Grind quickly so you can get a Drake.




Demolishar
Posted - 2010.03.13 15:39:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Duchess Starbuckington

[Drake, PVP]
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

1MN MicroWarpdrive I

Warp Disruptor II
Stasis Webifier II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
[empty high slot]

Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I


Warrior II x5



Laughing

Stuart Price
Caldari
FLA5HY RED
The Defenders of Pen Island
Posted - 2010.03.13 18:25:00 - [13]
 

Best Ferox:

6 x FMP II (Scorch, Imp. MF)
1 x Med Nos II

1 x 10mn MWD I
1 x Warp Disruptor II
1 x Invul II
2 x LSE II

1 x DC II
3 x Heat Sink II

3 x CDFE I

5 x Warrior II

Awesome, simply awesome. I suppose you could fit blasters on it as well, but, well, LASERS.

Admiral Pelleon
White Shadow Imperium
Posted - 2010.03.13 18:29:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Stuart Price
Best Ferox:

6 x FMP II (Scorch, Imp. MF)
1 x Med Nos II

1 x 10mn MWD I
1 x Warp Disruptor II
1 x Invul II
2 x LSE II

1 x DC II
3 x Heat Sink II

3 x CDFE I

5 x Warrior II

Awesome, simply awesome. I suppose you could fit blasters on it as well, but, well, LASERS.


4BC's vs. 2BS, BC, HAC

Laser Ferox ftw?

Worked okay, but damage is lacking with no ship bonus. Tank is great for bait though. Smile

fuxinos
Caldari
Guys 0f Sarcasm
Posted - 2010.03.13 18:43:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: fuxinos on 13/03/2010 18:43:55
Originally by: Demolishar

Laughing


I "Laughing" at you, for still falling for this old thing.

10MN Microwarpdrive I > II

RAVEN KROFT
Caldari
Posted - 2010.03.13 19:02:00 - [16]
 

It really stesses me out that the drake is insanely awesome and the ferox is looked down upon. I know it's not as bad as most people say it is but there is nothing that it can do that the drake can't do just as well or even better.

Hopefully some change to rail/blaster modules/boats will help even things out a little between the 2 BCs. Like drake is the tank boat and a blaster ferox is the gank boat. Or make the ferox more appealing as a poor mans command ship....?

Meeko Atari
Posted - 2010.03.13 19:58:00 - [17]
 

If your going to use the Ferox..use Hybrids

[Failrox, Pvp]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Damage Control II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II

Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I


Warrior II x5

The Ferox is a decent blaster boat and a sub-par rail boat it will do it's job, but it is out classed by the Drake

Kalnov
Gallente
Broski Enterprises
Posted - 2010.03.13 20:17:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: fuxinos
Edited by: fuxinos on 13/03/2010 18:43:55
Originally by: Demolishar

Laughing


I "Laughing" at you, for still falling for this old thing.

10MN Microwarpdrive I > II


He's laughing at the fact that it's a 1mn MWD on a battlecruiser.

Reem Fairchild
Minmatar
Punic Corp.
Posted - 2010.03.13 20:41:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Reem Fairchild on 13/03/2010 20:42:02
Originally by: RAVEN KROFT
I know it's not as bad as most people say it is but there is nothing that it can do that the drake can't do just as well or even better.


Can the Drake snipe from 100+ km range?

Destroperuk
DUCKWIG FLEET INC
Auctoritas Empire
Posted - 2010.03.13 23:38:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Reem Fairchild
Edited by: Reem Fairchild on 13/03/2010 20:42:02
Originally by: RAVEN KROFT
I know it's not as bad as most people say it is but there is nothing that it can do that the drake can't do just as well or even better.


Can the Drake snipe from 100+ km range?


Yes?

Reem Fairchild
Minmatar
Punic Corp.
Posted - 2010.03.13 23:45:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Reem Fairchild on 13/03/2010 23:46:07
Originally by: Destroperuk
Originally by: Reem Fairchild
Edited by: Reem Fairchild on 13/03/2010 20:42:02
Originally by: RAVEN KROFT
I know it's not as bad as most people say it is but there is nothing that it can do that the drake can't do just as well or even better.


Can the Drake snipe from 100+ km range?


Yes


WTB: Drake that can fit guns and/or missiles that instantly travel from ship to target

Denuo Secus
Posted - 2010.03.14 00:23:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Denuo Secus on 14/03/2010 00:23:32
Originally by: Destroperuk
Originally by: Reem Fairchild
Edited by: Reem Fairchild on 13/03/2010 20:42:02
Originally by: RAVEN KROFT
I know it's not as bad as most people say it is but there is nothing that it can do that the drake can't do just as well or even better.


Can the Drake snipe from 100+ km range?


Yes?


No.

Thats the one role the Drake cannot play. Ferox is an usable and above all cheap sniper. When rails get fixed some day the Ferox will begin to shine imo.

Duchess Starbuckington
Posted - 2010.03.14 01:13:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Duchess Starbuckington on 14/03/2010 01:15:11
Originally by: Kalnov
Originally by: fuxinos
Edited by: fuxinos on 13/03/2010 18:43:55
Originally by: Demolishar

Laughing


I "Laughing" at you, for still falling for this old thing.

10MN Microwarpdrive I > II


He's laughing at the fact that it's a 1mn MWD on a battlecruiser.


Fixed. Embarassed
(How the hell did that make it onto my EFT? Must've been half asleep at the time)

Forge Lag
Jita Lag Preservation Fund
Posted - 2010.03.14 12:12:00 - [24]
 

EM Missiles on Ferox are the same as EM missiles on Drake. Add two lasers, they look really cool. Or neuts, Ferox can actually fit that.

Sure it lacks slots and base stats and really only has the resists as bonus but it kinda works. Nice attempt at troll but I prefer to troll hardcore and fly it.

RAVEN KROFT
Caldari
Posted - 2010.03.15 12:14:00 - [25]
 

How about giving the ferox another low slot and enough grid to fit 250s! This would give good rail damage and range with a combo of mags and TEs with higher damage ammo for PvE (more CPU needed). You wouldn't need to change the ship bonus at all either as it would be a more viable mission rail platform at the BC level.

Arrador
Posted - 2010.03.15 12:54:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Meeko Atari
If your going to use the Ferox..use Hybrids

[Failrox, Pvp]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Damage Control II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II

Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Small Nosferatu II

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I


Warrior II x5

The Ferox is a decent blaster boat and a sub-par rail boat it will do it's job, but it is out classed by the Drake



If your going to use the Blaster ferox, you at least need ions. If you're gonna fit Electrons, Use the moa...

Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
Posted - 2010.03.15 13:41:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Alpha Spinecone
Edited by: Alpha Spinecone on 13/03/2010 12:08:20
Edited by: Alpha Spinecone on 13/03/2010 11:57:32
I plan to use it mainly as a missile boat, and I currently have 2 medium lasers (one of the ones with the long needlessly complex name to show they are slightly better than normal ones)

I know caldari use rails, but the ferox has no bonus to them, at least not ones I saw.

So, can anyone recommend some mids and lows?


Edit: Just noticed it does have bonuses to railgun range.

Meh, last time i used cruiser rails, I coulda done more damage throwing rocks at them.


For PvE (downgrade where necessary; I'm assuming no access to T2 guns/ammo at least). (Oh, and the Y-S8 is there for better cap stability over the T2 MWD.):

[Ferox, mishin]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Power Diagnostic System II

Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II

200mm Railgun II, Spike M
200mm Railgun II, Spike M
200mm Railgun II, Spike M
200mm Railgun II, Spike M
200mm Railgun II, Spike M
200mm Railgun II, Spike M
[empty high slot]

Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I

Hobgoblin II x5

For PvP with Hybrids:

[Ferox, blerox 2]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Damage Control II

10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II
Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II

Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
[empty high slot]

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I

Warrior II x5

(Make extensive use of Null.)

And I believe the standard Laserox has already been posted.

Dungheap
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.03.15 14:21:00 - [28]
 

[Ferox, Ferox]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager I


use two primary and one secondary hardener as the mission requires. stick with level 3's as you'll probably be able to make more isk doing them rapidly, than trying level 4's with the low damage output of this ship.

the upside of ferox is you can tractor and salvage as you go along, the skills you'll be training all apply to drake as well, and of course when you can afford a drake most of the modules will drop right onto it.



Sigaar
Posted - 2010.03.15 14:23:00 - [29]
 

Edited by: Sigaar on 15/03/2010 14:24:20
If you are about to raise some ISK for your Drake in a Ferox i reccoment this fit:

2x Small tractor beam
2x Salvager
1x Combat probe launcher

1x Afterburner

2x salvage rigs
1x probe strength rig.

Or just use some sort of frigate for that.

You ll earn enough money in few hours of flying around in motsu



Patri Andari
Caldari
Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
Posted - 2010.03.15 23:59:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Dungheap
[Ferox, Ferox]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager I


use two primary and one secondary hardener as the mission requires. stick with level 3's as you'll probably be able to make more isk doing them rapidly, than trying level 4's with the low damage output of this ship.

the upside of ferox is you can tractor and salvage as you go along, the skills you'll be training all apply to drake as well, and of course when you can afford a drake most of the modules will drop right onto it.






This.

I actually flew this exact setup (all T1) b4 I had skills and isk for a proper rigged Drake. If you have no gun skills and find yourself in a Ferox, this is the way to fit it.


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