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Tortugan
Internal Anarchy
WE FORM VOLTRON
Posted - 2010.05.17 19:55:00 - [121]
 

Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde
Updated OP with our Ke$ha parody


Oh dear god. You didn't.

I'm writing my application to Noir. as we speak.

Lana Torrin
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2010.05.18 00:31:00 - [122]
 

Originally by: Tortugan
Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde
Updated OP with our Ke$ha parody


Oh dear god. You didn't.

I'm writing my application to Noir. as we speak.


Dont bother. They will probably charge you a joining fee then kick you after 1 day.

Varesk
Gallente
Maelstrom Crew
Posted - 2010.05.18 00:41:00 - [123]
 

drug smuggling link does not compute.

well, its removed from youtube.





Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2010.05.19 03:18:00 - [124]
 

Originally by: Varesk
drug smuggling link does not compute.

well, its removed from youtube.


Hate it when people do that.. I'll remove from our post then

Mel Lifera
Gallente
Ambrye Logistics Ltd.
Posted - 2010.05.19 05:31:00 - [125]
 

I never got killed by anyone from Noir., so I guess they're all right...

Roastedpot
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2010.05.19 09:54:00 - [126]
 

Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde
Originally by: Varesk
drug smuggling link does not compute.

well, its removed from youtube.


Hate it when people do that.. I'll remove from our post then


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9nrkQVOj60
i suggest you dl this one and put it up yourself sometime ;-)

Elenin
Posted - 2010.05.19 17:37:00 - [127]
 

i hear losing carriers as part of pet fleets trying to take regions is what makes good mercs

Erichk Knaar
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2010.05.19 17:47:00 - [128]
 

Originally by: Elenin
i hear losing carriers as part of pet fleets trying to take regions is what makes good mercs


oooh, burn.

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2010.05.19 21:03:00 - [129]
 

Originally by: Erichk Knaar
Originally by: Elenin
i hear losing carriers as part of pet fleets trying to take regions is what makes good mercs


oooh, burn.
quite so.

negative10
Brotherhood of Negativity
Posted - 2010.05.19 23:37:00 - [130]
 

Originally by: Elenin
i hear losing carriers as part of pet fleets trying to take regions is what makes good mercs

Post with your main, or it never happened.

Pro tip: Real men smack with their mains, just a FYI.....

Deladian
Gallente
FLA5HY RED
The Defenders of Pen Island
Posted - 2010.05.19 23:57:00 - [131]
 

yo neg10 also free bump after all we are just all peas in one big pod.

Kan3r Blaze
Minmatar
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2010.05.19 23:58:00 - [132]
 

Originally by: negative10
Originally by: Elenin
i hear losing carriers as part of pet fleets trying to take regions is what makes good mercs

Post with your main, or it never happened.

Pro tip: Real men smack with their mains, just a FYI.....


Oh no, it definitely happened. It's just funny that losing two carriers to a very well planned attack by PL is something to try and smack us about Very Happy

Sellmewarez
Posted - 2010.05.20 00:24:00 - [133]
 

Originally by: Kan3r Blaze
Originally by: negative10
Originally by: Elenin
i hear losing carriers as part of pet fleets trying to take regions is what makes good mercs

Post with your main, or it never happened.

Pro tip: Real men smack with their mains, just a FYI.....


Oh no, it definitely happened. It's just funny that losing two carriers to a very well planned attack by PL is something to try and smack us about Very Happy


You can be smacked about yer blu list though.

Tell me something do you need to run past contracts by AAA, Ushara Khan (probably spelt wrong, aint bovered) and all the other provipets before they get approved?

ugh

Kan3r Blaze
Minmatar
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2010.05.20 00:59:00 - [134]
 

Originally by: Sellmewarez

You can be smacked about yer blu list though.

Tell me something do you need to run past contracts by AAA, Ushara Khan (probably spelt wrong, aint bovered) and all the other provipets before they get approved?

ugh


Hire us and find out Very Happy


negative10
Brotherhood of Negativity
Posted - 2010.05.20 01:05:00 - [135]
 

Originally by: Deladian
yo neg10 also free bump after all we are just all peas in one big pod.

Yo mate,

That be very true.


Volatile Memory
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.05.20 01:06:00 - [136]
 

Edited by: Volatile Memory on 20/05/2010 01:06:15
Originally by: Lana Torrin

Dont bother. They will probably charge you a joining fee then kick you after 1 day.


Did it ever occur to you that perhaps they were hired to take you out?

Yea baby, let that bounce around in your head for a bit.

Call you in the morning.

Jimer Lins
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2010.05.21 22:29:00 - [137]
 

Originally by: negative10
Originally by: Elenin
i hear losing carriers as part of pet fleets trying to take regions is what makes good mercs

Post with your main, or it never happened.

Pro tip: Real men smack with their mains, just a FYI.....


Oh, it happened all right. But it was quite a fight and they didn't get lost stupidly.


RedSplat
Posted - 2010.05.22 00:23:00 - [138]
 

Originally by: Jimer Lins

Oh, it happened all right. But it was quite a fight and they didn't get lost stupidly.




So you've got off to a tricky start in your new lives as AAA pets? Razz

Yeah i know, horrible troll.

Happy hunting Noir., here is wishing you many good contracts to come.

Jimer Lins
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2010.05.22 00:56:00 - [139]
 

Originally by: RedSplat
Originally by: Jimer Lins

Oh, it happened all right. But it was quite a fight and they didn't get lost stupidly.




So you've got off to a tricky start in your new lives as AAA pets? Razz




It's awful, isn't it? We're so terrible we can't even be pets right! Laughing

Quote:

Yeah i know, horrible troll.



Happy hunting Noir., here is wishing you many good contracts to come.



Thanks mate. Watch this space for action coming Real Soon Now (tm).


Jimer Lins
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2010.05.29 00:24:00 - [140]
 

Edited by: Jimer Lins on 29/05/2010 00:24:42
Bump for a reminder that yours truly is taking to the airwaves tonight at 7PM Pacific time (0200 EVE) for my first official set on Split Infinity Radio- http://www.siradio.fm. The set goes for 3 hours and will be mostly music but I'll be talking about the Alliance tournament among other things!

Tune in and enjoy! There's also an ingame chat channel under "Other\SIRadio", and IRC via the website above or at irc.siradio.fm, channel #siradio.


Lady Karma
Posted - 2010.05.29 00:46:00 - [141]
 

Originally by: Kan3r Blaze
Originally by: Sellmewarez

You can be smacked about yer blu list though.

Tell me something do you need to run past contracts by AAA, Ushara Khan (probably spelt wrong, aint bovered) and all the other provipets before they get approved?

ugh


Hire us and find out Very Happy



No need to hire you when I can just get your masters to tell you what to do.

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2010.05.29 01:25:00 - [142]
 

Edited by: Grimpak on 29/05/2010 01:25:20
Originally by: Lady Karma
No need to hire you when I can just get your masters to tell you what to do.


please make it so then, if you really believe what you're saying.

Lady Karma
Posted - 2010.05.29 01:33:00 - [143]
 

Edited by: Lady Karma on 29/05/2010 01:37:01
Originally by: Grimpak
Edited by: Grimpak on 29/05/2010 01:25:20
Originally by: Lady Karma
No need to hire you when I can just get your masters to tell you what to do.


please make it so then, if you really believe what you're saying.


Did you say make it so

I do believe that a merc corp with a huge list of blues defeats the point in being a mercenary. Maybe the way you are pleading for someone to pay you to do something/anything is an indication that you have placed yourself in a detrimental position. You have 12 kills on your board today, that's less than I had and I'm not in an alliance.

I'm going to say KIA right about now, there I said it.

Vilgan Mazran
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2010.05.29 02:38:00 - [144]
 

Lots of ripping on noir. Pretty sure they'll accept contracts against nearby entities and the neighbors are likely aware of it. If you don't believe it, try and hire them to harass one of the provi holders.

I think it'll be interesting to see how this pans out. Imo, its very hard to take sov and remain "as you were" otherwise. When you live in low sec, merc contracts seem like a good deal. You get paid isk to go blow stuff up.

The kicker is, now that you are in null... you can make soooo much more money by NOT taking contracts. Why go rep a pos or harass a corp or whatnot for 100 mil isk/person/week (or whatever is paid) when everyone involved can make that in 2-3 hours in null? Why generate income for the corp via a contract clearing off a moon, when clearing a moon for yourselves will generate significantly more? There will be those that continue to do it for the rep, for the RP, for non financial reasons. However, they are (imo) likely to be the minority.

I don't think Noir is going to explode into a fiery ball. But I think they will start to have motivational issues down the road. People who'd rather make 10x the isk in the 0.0 than out on contracts. People applying to join Noir that are interested in the sov and see the taking contracts thing as a necessary evil. People suddenly get "busy irl" when a long boring contract pops up but have plenty of time when Noir isn't on a contract.

Who knows, maybe I'll be wrong. Be interesting to hear thoughts from Noir on it. But its definitely a big step to take as a merc corp that wants to remain as a merc corp.

TehRaw Australis
Posted - 2010.05.29 03:17:00 - [145]
 

Originally by: Jimer Lins
Originally by: Aliraxi
I'm terrified of the day Noir. decides to take nullsec space.


I don't really see that ever happening. Taking and holding nullsec requires a different set of skills and outlook.

The best part about merc work is that every new job is, well- new. New people, places, stuff to shoot at... holding space would take that away.




This was said about 2 month ago

Jimer Lins
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2010.05.29 03:31:00 - [146]
 

Originally by: TehRaw Australis
Originally by: Jimer Lins
Originally by: Aliraxi
I'm terrified of the day Noir. decides to take nullsec space.


I don't really see that ever happening. Taking and holding nullsec requires a different set of skills and outlook.

The best part about merc work is that every new job is, well- new. New people, places, stuff to shoot at... holding space would take that away.




This was said about 2 month ago


It's true, and no one was more shocked than I. Laughing

However, the arrangement is a good one and hasn't affected our ability to get contracts or work. Prep for the Alliance Tournament is taking more time than managing the pocket ever did.

Kan3r Blaze
Minmatar
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2010.05.29 03:48:00 - [147]
 

Some valid points in here and I'll try and answer them as best I can

Originally by: Vilgan Mazran
Lots of ripping on noir. Pretty sure they'll accept contracts against nearby entities and the neighbors are likely aware of it. If you don't believe it, try and hire them to harass one of the provi holders.


Confirmed. That's the way our business worked, and still works. I won't lie to you, there may well be some entities in EVE that we won't dec, but that's ALWAYS been the case and the list is remarkably small, despite some people's insistence to the contrary

Originally by: Vilgan Mazran
The kicker is, now that you are in null... you can make soooo much more money by NOT taking contracts. Why go rep a pos or harass a corp or whatnot for 100 mil isk/person/week (or whatever is paid) when everyone involved can make that in 2-3 hours in null? Why generate income for the corp via a contract clearing off a moon, when clearing a moon for yourselves will generate significantly more? There will be those that continue to do it for the rep, for the RP, for non financial reasons. However, they are (imo) likely to be the minority.

I don't think Noir is going to explode into a fiery ball. But I think they will start to have motivational issues down the road. People who'd rather make 10x the isk in the 0.0 than out on contracts. People applying to join Noir that are interested in the sov and see the taking contracts thing as a necessary evil. People suddenly get "busy irl" when a long boring contract pops up but have plenty of time when Noir isn't on a contract.




The key to our individual pilots motivations lies in their background.
Many have taken part in 0.0 sov warfare, many have been pirates, many have been 0.0 residents. ALL of them love PVP.

The reason that pilots are recruited into NMG is for the variety and substance that merc works gives you. It's not about the cash, although you can make healthy amounts doing it if you're good.

If a pilot in Noir. suddenly doesn't want to do merc work they are fine to leave and find something else to do, no hard feelings. The motivation is the PVP with a purpose, and it's what's personally kept me at this game for over a year now.

Once we're on contract EVERY pilot is expected to be in the contract area. If a pilot was wandering off and ratting in 0.0 without some prior agreement with the officers and Alek then they'd soon find themselves without a home when it came to the roster review.

We make it very clear at the recruitment stage that if it's just the sov holding part of Noir. that appeals then NMG is not the place for you. After all, there are so many other alliances to join if you want to rat in 0.0 (and where the ratting is better!)
The sov is our home when not on contract, but as you can imagine Alek does everything in his power to make sure we're employed more often than not.

TL:DR We're fine, thanks

Oh, and we knew that Jimer's comment was going to get thrown in his face at some point Very Happy


Lady Karma
Posted - 2010.05.29 04:03:00 - [148]
 

Originally by: Jimer Lins

However, the arrangement is a good one and hasn't affected our ability to get contracts or work. Prep for the Alliance Tournament is taking more time than managing the pocket ever did.



Your killboard is public, I don't understand how you can say with a straight face it hasn't affected your ability to get contracts. Or is 12 kills a day the usual for an ongoing contract. I was being a bit generous with 12 kills, you seem to prefer a 6 average, and the bulk is pos mods. I'm ignoring the R3 fight on Thursday as you seemed to have 9 alliances on your side and got a massive 35 kills for the day.

Help me out here, you claim to be a merc corp, and kill less than a solo pirate in low sec, whats going on? Anyone in Noir with a touch of honesty to answer the question?

Kan3r Blaze
Minmatar
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2010.05.29 04:11:00 - [149]
 

Originally by: Lady Karma

Anyone in Noir with a touch of honesty to answer the question?


Hey there Very Happy

The last contract we were on finished yesterday (28th May), and it wasn't a particularly busy one. Mainly babysittting a very quiet WH towards the end.

We're now on R&R until after the alliance tournament as taking out contracts would get in the way.

Our kills/day until after the AT will be incredibly low, so check back in a few weeks.

Just to reiterate it's the tournament, not holding sov, that's holding us back from contracts at the moment.




Jane Bennet
Posted - 2010.05.29 11:52:00 - [150]
 

Originally by: Lady Karma
Help me out here, you claim to be a merc corp, and kill less than a solo pirate in low sec, whats going on? Anyone in Noir with a touch of honesty to answer the question?


Mercs are hired for targets too tough for the hiring party. You know, people who shoot back. You might need their services if you start running into something else than shuttles and untanked Badgers.


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