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Birdman Ravo
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2010.03.08 18:25:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Mocam
A revamp of mining would probably fix it.

Tie rat spawns to how much is pulled from a belt and make the rats more dangerous. A macro mining fleet, pulling a ton out of a spot, would flood-fill it with rats that could/would kill the miners.

With such a change, miners would have to watch how much they pull at a time or they might get too many rats on them plus you'd have a great deal of appreciation for miners and mining -- ratters would look for mining groups going out so they could keep busy with the rats vs "defend a mining op? uhp... can I watch grass grow instead?"

A more 'win-win' scenario that'd gut the macro crowd while improving relations among eve players.


I could go for this. I get bored running missions for isk, it'd be nice to have some more meaningful PVE for once.

ISellThingz
Posted - 2010.03.08 18:32:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Dragonmede
Ok, I think I may have a solution. I believe the rule is that you can freely attack members of your own Corp, so I have invested in my first Alt. She will stay in the Training Corp and as soon as she can competently fly a Drake she will begin to hunt Miners in her own Corp. BruhaaaaaahaaaaaYARRRR!!


Please, do let us know how your master plan fares after your first attempt.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2010.03.08 18:48:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Dragonmede
Ok, I think I may have a solution. I believe the rule is that you can freely attack members of your own Corp, so I have invested in my first Alt. She will stay in the Training Corp and as soon as she can competently fly a Drake she will begin to hunt Miners in her own Corp. BruhaaaaaahaaaaaYARRRR!!


Doesn't work. If it did, they wouldn't be in that corp.

Brokers Clone
Amarr
Northgate
Posted - 2010.03.08 19:12:00 - [34]
 

Edited by: Brokers Clone on 08/03/2010 19:13:02
Originally by: Induc
Yeah! Instead of punishing you too and your other many "MMO for me means sitting alone in front of a rock for 2 years straight" friends

You forgot the Audio... listening to Braaaaaaaaaaawk.....Braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawkaaaaaaawk...
over and over and over and.....

-------------------
Malcanis
.... Awwwwww... I wanted to see the WHAT THE F!!! Post when she popped her "notinsuredcuzIamSurethiswillwork" BS!

Ryhss
Caldari
The Excecutorans
Posted - 2010.03.08 19:22:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Nhadkar Sibehr
Originally by: ISellThingz
Edited by: ISellThingz on 08/03/2010 09:26:25
Edited by: ISellThingz on 08/03/2010 09:24:58
Originally by: Marko Riva
Miners with no corp history or standings does not automatically make a macro.


Have to agree with that. *pats his 2 hulk accounts*

Originally by: Nhadkar Sibehr

what does it make them? players that waste away 6 months to 2years of their lives minning? JUST minning...cause...Im a pure miner and....its boring as fck..and soemtimes killing 2 asteroid belts dont even cut it....and im turning to PVP now...seriously..marco miners should die...ever see 2 orcas and 10 hulks log in a belt? seen it....ever see them kill 5 belts in 2 hours? i seen and its fcking gay...im trainig for suicide ganking...srsly...its worth it?


You sir, are weak.

damn another troll...k "!" person...tell me how? its as if your "pro" macro mining (complete assumption but you're probably going to troll about this again) and also how can those people with no corp history and standings be not macro? let's say you watch them for a week and thats all they do..you talk to them and they reply "sometimes" what does that say?
I'm sick to death of idiots shouting troll when thier opinions don't match up. I have to agree with ISellThings.

Arvano
Posted - 2010.03.08 20:23:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Induc
Originally by: Arvano
Originally by: HeliosGal
perhaps a 15% refining tax on npc corpers in line with the 15% npc tax


Perhaps punishing ONLY the macro miners, instead of everybody in the NPC corp.
Jackass.

Yeah! Instead of punishing you too and your other many "MMO for me means sitting alone in front of a rock for 2 years straight" friends


I don't mine.

Jackass.

Arvano
Posted - 2010.03.08 20:30:00 - [37]
 

Sorry, twice. For the insulting word, and double posting. I'm a month old though and don't plan on leaving the noobie corp any time soon because I still suck at the game, and punishing EVERYONE in the noobie corps would be terribly unfair, and it wouldn't even stop the macro miners anyway, because even with a 15% refinery tax for noob corpers they're still going to be making tons of money by AFK cheat mining.

Magnus Nordir
Caldari
Nordir Industries
Posted - 2010.03.08 20:34:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Brokers Clone
You forgot the Audio... listening to Braaaaaaaaaaawk.....Braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawkaaaaaaawk...
over and over and over and.....


EVE has sound? Shocked

Gajoleus
Gallente
Solar Imperium
Posted - 2010.03.09 08:33:00 - [39]
 

Blaster mega did the trick

Caia
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2010.03.09 11:11:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Mocam
A revamp of mining would probably fix it.

Tie rat spawns to how much is pulled from a belt and make the rats more dangerous. A macro mining fleet, pulling a ton out of a spot, would flood-fill it with rats that could/would kill the miners.

With such a change, miners would have to watch how much they pull at a time or they might get too many rats on them plus you'd have a great deal of appreciation for miners and mining -- ratters would look for mining groups going out so they could keep busy with the rats vs "defend a mining op? uhp... can I watch grass grow instead?"

A more 'win-win' scenario that'd gut the macro crowd while improving relations among eve players.


I don't see anything wrong with this solution. Myabe the devs ought to check it out?

Callista Sincera
Amarr
Hedion University
Posted - 2010.03.09 11:33:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Nhadkar Sibehr
tiny brain amazing specs kid. Im gnna end this before this becomes some flame wars cause your too butthurt when people go on suicide kill your hulk because they thought your a macro..you know they're like a plague here in eve...shut up and get in your pvp and go kill macro..geez..get that in your Big brain..


You're still wrong though and I don't see anyone butthurt either. "Out of arugments error", huh?

My first account was a miner too. Security standing of 0.01 or something. Didn't do anything besides mining and updating trade orders to the sound of "bzzt-bzzt". Didn't answer all chatrequests either. Why would I have? It's not like I was the damn information office.

Think I did that for about a year, on and off. Scrapped the whole mining thing last year. Trading is so much more rewarding than wasting time for little income. Also means I only need to log in a couple of times a week to make enough ISK for those PLEX and keep the accounts running while waiting for more interesting content Very Happy

Zartrader
Posted - 2010.03.09 11:34:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Mocam
A revamp of mining would probably fix it.

Tie rat spawns to how much is pulled from a belt and make the rats more dangerous. A macro mining fleet, pulling a ton out of a spot, would flood-fill it with rats that could/would kill the miners.

With such a change, miners would have to watch how much they pull at a time or they might get too many rats on them plus you'd have a great deal of appreciation for miners and mining -- ratters would look for mining groups going out so they could keep busy with the rats vs "defend a mining op? uhp... can I watch grass grow instead?"

A more 'win-win' scenario that'd gut the macro crowd while improving relations among eve players.


Yes that's a good idea. Mine at bot levels and you get more hassle. Risk/Reward is better balanced and if done right would screw the botters or at least cause them some inconvenience.

I just wish there was a way players could kill botters in NPC corps and hi sec.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.03.09 11:41:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Caia
Originally by: Mocam
A revamp of mining would probably fix it.

Tie rat spawns to how much is pulled from a belt and make the rats more dangerous. A macro mining fleet, pulling a ton out of a spot, would flood-fill it with rats that could/would kill the miners.

With such a change, miners would have to watch how much they pull at a time or they might get too many rats on them plus you'd have a great deal of appreciation for miners and mining -- ratters would look for mining groups going out so they could keep busy with the rats vs "defend a mining op? uhp... can I watch grass grow instead?"

A more 'win-win' scenario that'd gut the macro crowd while improving relations among eve players.
I don't see anything wrong with this solution. Myabe the devs ought to check it out?
I can. The botters send out massive fleet that decimate the belts in usual order, and another massive fleet that rakes in the ISK from the vastly increased rat spawns. It adds additional benefits to botting rather than discourage it.

Gleabus
Posted - 2010.03.09 12:24:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: HeliosGal
perhaps a 15% refining tax on npc corpers in line with the 15% npc tax


A way around this is a one-man player corp alt thats only purpose is to never leave a station and refine.

Venkul Mul
Gallente
Posted - 2010.03.09 12:37:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Caia
Originally by: Mocam
A revamp of mining would probably fix it.

Tie rat spawns to how much is pulled from a belt and make the rats more dangerous. A macro mining fleet, pulling a ton out of a spot, would flood-fill it with rats that could/would kill the miners.

With such a change, miners would have to watch how much they pull at a time or they might get too many rats on them plus you'd have a great deal of appreciation for miners and mining -- ratters would look for mining groups going out so they could keep busy with the rats vs "defend a mining op? uhp... can I watch grass grow instead?"

A more 'win-win' scenario that'd gut the macro crowd while improving relations among eve players.


I don't see anything wrong with this solution. Myabe the devs ought to check it out?


Some negative points in this idea:

1) The old way of chaining rats, where they would be spawn with increased frequency when killwd was removed for valid reasons: a) it use up a lot of resources; b) it is too easy to farm.
This mechanic will do the same.

2) A single miner has no control on what the other miners pull from the belt and there is no way to know if the roid have been heavily mined till 30 seconds before you getting in the belt or they have been left alone for most of the day. So the miners will not know what is the situation.
a mechanics that leave 0 control and information in the hand of the player is bad.

3) This thing will kill corp mining ops while making convenient to have several characters, one for each belt, mining.
Guess who will benefit for that?
Macrominers.




Mr Kidd
Posted - 2010.03.09 21:39:00 - [46]
 

Sounds like someone is too busy nosing about other people's business. I do my own thing and I couldn't tell you how many people are in a belt. Granted, I don't mine, maybe you do. If the macro miners are upsetting you perhaps you should move to lo/nullsec/wh's. That'll keep you busy and I guarantee you won't see a macro miner.....too often.

I realize that it burns your hide that people are doing this. But it happens. Let CCP do or don't do its job as it see's fit. In the meantime go do something to take your mind off of it.

Rebnok
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.03.10 03:16:00 - [47]
 

I decided I want a SuperCap. So I trained and bought 5 new hulk accounts, I only mine arkonor in 0.0 but still, none have standings and i do log them in the belt and no i dont macro

Stray Bullets
Caldari
Posted - 2010.03.10 12:08:00 - [48]
 

I do believe I've replied to a similar thread in the past. One of my toons is a dedicated miner, and I have an auto-reject on convos and will be mostly AFK, normally playing a FPS game (TF2 FTW!). Dual monitor works like a charm for me and a hulk takes a very long time to fill up, so not everyone out there not answering back to you while mining is a macro mate.

The reality of this is that... pure miners... mine! <-- should be logical to you, but it isn't! :)


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