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Den Dugg
Posted - 2010.03.10 18:46:00 - [331]
 

the raven Coolwill look badass. like its comeing in for the kill from heaven!

Skex Relbore
Gallente
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
Posted - 2010.03.10 23:00:00 - [332]
 

I don't understand why people seem to think these things should have plates, welds and rivets. The Empires have nano-tech they're far more likely to "grow" ships by feeding raw materials to nano-assemblers that to bolt them together with random parts. Particularly the superstructures of the hull.


I like the new model almost enough to train Caldari and get a rattlesnake.


Lone Provider
Posted - 2010.03.11 00:19:00 - [333]
 


Scorp actualy looks better from other angles on Sisi, the photo does it no justice, well done

Very Happy

Bromine Mercury
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
Posted - 2010.03.11 00:48:00 - [334]
 

Oh wow. A scorpion is blue or green. Or a Widow has a cool paint job.

Do you have any farking clue how little difference this makes to the standard pilot who is using the ship IN SPACE, and not spinning in station? We scroll all the way out to minimize lag and hope that our pinpoint graphic ships don't explode.

HTFU graphics boys, we don't care about what color our ships are when they are getting blasted to bits because we are scrolled out so far that it doesn't matter. The only time it matters is when we are looking at our pretty preciouses in station!

Fix lag, fix gameplay, **** the polygons!

Shoshinge
Caldari
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.03.11 05:33:00 - [335]
 

While I fly exclusively Caldari on this toon, this to me is AMAZING !!!

As to all those whining about, fix lag, etc etc... these are artists not engineers do you expect to make the lag prettier ?

Good Job CCP Art Team, show us the Sexy !!!!!

Originally by: Skex Relbore
I don't understand why people seem to think these things should have plates, welds and rivets. The Empires have nano-tech they're far more likely to "grow" ships by feeding raw materials to nano-assemblers that to bolt them together with random parts. Particularly the superstructures of the hull.


I like the new model almost enough to train Caldari and get a rattlesnake.



Lone Provider
Posted - 2010.03.11 07:38:00 - [336]
 

Edited by: Lone Provider on 11/03/2010 07:38:56
Originally by: Bromine Mercury
Oh wow. A scorpion is blue or green. Or a Widow has a cool paint job.

Do you have any farking clue how little difference this makes to the standard pilot who is using the ship IN SPACE, and not spinning in station? We scroll all the way out to minimize lag and hope that our pinpoint graphic ships don't explode.

HTFU graphics boys, we don't care about what color our ships are when they are getting blasted to bits because we are scrolled out so far that it doesn't matter. The only time it matters is when we are looking at our pretty preciouses in station!

Fix lag, fix gameplay, **** the polygons!



I don't get any Lag, in lvl5s or with maxed graphics, if you have that problem you may have weak graphics, cpu,

memory or just a weak internet connection. Perhaps you should investigate your own sources before blaming CCP!



jubbil
Minmatar
The Legion Of Pods
Posted - 2010.03.11 14:37:00 - [337]
 

Edited by: jubbil on 11/03/2010 14:37:40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwAM2UkkJTw


The New Navy Scorp Looks Great =]

Reatu Krentor
Minmatar
Void Spiders
Fate Weavers
Posted - 2010.03.12 13:29:00 - [338]
 

Sooo... With this new Scorpion design, which is nice, though too cartoonlike(http://reocities.com/area51/8738/ACCESS/scorpinok.JPG) imo, lose the claws and it's awesomeness go over 9000. Like this(http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/phaese/scorp_mod.jpg) or this(http://pumpkinscissors.clan.su/new_scorp.jpg) previously posted.
That aside, since you're redesigning stuff, can I assume the Naglfar will get its fabled 3rd turret now? The previous primary argument against it was that the art team didn't have enough time to change the Naglfar. But hey look now you're changing a ship that was fine, not winning any beauty contests however, so that must mean you have time to fix the naglfar properly?

Dr Amira
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2010.03.13 21:15:00 - [339]
 

Edited by: Dr Amira on 13/03/2010 21:16:55
Mixed feelings on this one... I liked the old design, but this does improve on it quite a bit in some places. I prefer the asymmetry in the Caldari ships though, it gave them a bit more character. The only asymmetrical caldari design I never liked was the little bit sticking out the side of the Rokh that makes it look like it needed extra support or something, but I can deal with that.

Someone here (Can't remember who, sorry) said that the wing panel detail made the wings look too small, which I happen to agree with. The vent and bevel are way to big for this size of ship, maybe a much smaller bevel and a series of smaller vents would help convey the scale and make the ship look at lot less toy-like. Also, please do something to make it look more metallic, the new model looks like it's plated in plastic, which may have worked for the T3 ships (they're supposed to be made from organic, plastic-like substances), but it doesn't work for the scorp. I happen to agree with another earlier comment (I think it was on the first or second page), complaining about the state seal being mirrored on both sides. Frankly, it looks unprofessional and lazy, how hard could it be to take the time to copy the logo across from one side to the other and have it display correctly. Finally, it seems that as an ECM ship it should have more antennae and so on, I used to like the fact that my scorp was bristling with arrays of aerials that served unknown purposes, it made up for the lack of visible weapons nicely.

Overall, the new model is mostly OK, but it needs some work to make it look less like an oversized lump of painted plastic from a cheap toyshop.

P.S. - Please ignore some of the guys here clamouring for an updated Raven. It's one of the most iconic ships in the game and I feel it summarises the Caldari style quite well. It could certainly benefit from a new texture, but the model is fine as it is and deserves to remain in all of its asymmetrical glory.

Caoswing
Posted - 2010.03.17 03:14:00 - [340]
 

Wow, That is different, to say the least, To be honest I love the new scorp desing although I did not hate the scorp look at all, Was one of the sexiest non-symetrical ships out there, in my opinion. Not crazy of the T3 paint, since I think the current paintjob on Caldari ships is incredible, looks very good considering the Caldari's Mega-Corporate style, everything has to be spick and span and shiny lol, anyway I won't see the T3 paint job that much since I will be mainly taking the Rattler and Widow for rides XD and their painting is AWESOME

I like the fact that you made it seem lesss flimsy, Because it did look more like a large BC than an actual BS.

and by the way people, stop complaining about the lag, bugs and all here... These are the art guys :P, Each team does their job and with the scorp they did it well.

Hopefully not all asymmetrical ships will be change, I do like the fact that some are symmetrical and some are not, but yes, the Raven is so damn odd and bulky, looks like a wall with lopsided wings and a huge handal in front. Moa is just ugly, Blackbird...dunno seems to have grown on me. Imicus has a fricken kickstand :P, Aeon (do I even have to say it?), Tempest looks so glued together XD and finally Phoenix... all the others Dreads are laughing at how boring it is, would thing caldari would add a couple of pounty sticks more or something on it, Charon looks more fun lol
Anyway that's just my opinion

Thiana Rainier
Posted - 2010.03.18 07:23:00 - [341]
 

Wow, I'm really glad that I chose Caldari as my main race and to specialize in Ewar. Absolutely freaking love the new scorpion, and I will have a lot of fun jamming in it! Very Happy

And as a response to earlier comments about changing the look of the raven, moa, osprey, etc. I say this...true they may be unsymmetrical and downright strange, but that's what adds to their originality and appeal. They aren't your "average" generic spaceships and, to me, that is what is most important about many of the ships of EvE.

Good job CCP, keep on pimping them rides (the ones that really need it anyways).

BeunWa
Caldari
Posted - 2010.03.21 02:01:00 - [342]
 

First of all, I would like to say that I LOVE the new design of the scorpion. The old model was to asymmetrical and the center of the camera on the wing was a bit annoying.
The new Scorpion design does not make it look like a toy! Caldari use shields, not armor. It is logical that they would use something less metallic for the hull since it is not supposed to receive direct damages. And concerning the size of this ship, it is only a tier 1 BS; bigger than a BC is enough for me.
Once and for all, Caldari is not equal to asymmetry! Look at the Drake, Merlin, Caracal, Rokh, Ferox, Chimera, Phoenix…

I have several suggestion for the future design overhaul:
-Redesign the Raven and the Dominix in priority after the Scorpion
-Show us the missile bays !! It seems the drake is full of it though
-Get rid of that camo paint job on the navy issues : we are in space, not in a forest !
-Don’t go all symmetrical either, it would be a shame to lose some of the charm
-Blackbird is ugly too… And Caracal really skinny for a missile boat (where should I put those crates of missiles…)

McEivalley
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2010.03.23 07:48:00 - [343]
 

Somebody probably already said that but I'd rather not see that model changed. I don't want caldari starships to look symmetric and so much like their animal namesake. I loved it when it was just hinted, I loved it that you need to exercise your perception to see the relationship between the name and the hull. That's partially why I picked my character as caldari to begin with.

My only regret is that caldari ships suck at pvp. X-training ftw.

DireSnake
Caldari
Temporal Group
Posted - 2010.03.23 09:50:00 - [344]
 

please, redesign the T2 "Merlin" hull ship class. Add visualy missile bay to "Hawk" and remove missile bay on "Harpy".

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

Izztyrr Maemtor
Posted - 2010.03.24 16:29:00 - [345]
 

I like the new deisgn a lot. When the change is made I'm going to get one.

Valentina Valentia
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2010.03.25 06:58:00 - [346]
 

Just dropped three more PLEX, and pulled out my Caldari alts, I might just start to play them again IF you all are serious about re-vamping the Fleet, I couldn't take looking at the current models anymore, just as you stated... eye-sores, but the T3 Tengu and the now Scorp are in my bays, if this trend continues I might be in Jita more offen!

The Scorpion model, is perfect, and reflects current game/graphical expectation for the times. I am glad to see your updating again, Trinity was a long time ago.

IMPROVEMENTS:

1. Move the Player version turrets to the wing edges (not the center) it looks wrong. The faction NPC look great with all 8 taken - that is it, it would then be PERFECT!.

the rest are general caldari issues, that affect this model

2. Caldari Hybred Turrets, "GREY BOXES!?" - Epic Fail... they should be bigger, by twice, longer barrels/barrels and with some love in the lights department... at is it, Caldari are overly drab, even for drap corp life... They just look horrible on ships.

3. Missle TURRETS!... Mins, Amarr (FTW), and Gallente all get very nice looking turrets, the Gallente get Great looking Hybred Turrets, Caldari get EMPTY sockets or Turrets from SAM's Club... THIS IS THE NUMBER ONE GRAPHIC ISSUE for Caldari, next was the skins... and don't show me the DRAKE... it at least looks like it's got missle turrets...but it's got 8 and they are flush with the hull - half/measures.

Since Caldari are the most played, these and other things affect the largest number of players... it would seem that some love should be placed in to the Caldar population...

Turrets, Ships, Effects - FTW!

WisestJudgement
Posted - 2010.03.25 13:51:00 - [347]
 

hehe :] i really think many of the Caldari ships need a makeover... some people would withotu doubt agree. personally i like symmetrical ships :] and well... personal request is to fix the Scorpion ( which you're workin at now :]) or the Raven... which is ******edly ugly =P

WisestJudgement
Posted - 2010.03.25 14:03:00 - [348]
 

Originally by: Valentina Valentia

the rest are general caldari issues, that affect this model

2. Caldari Hybred Turrets, "GREY BOXES!?" - Epic Fail... they should be bigger, by twice, longer barrels/barrels and with some love in the lights department... at is it, Caldari are overly drab, even for drap corp life... They just look horrible on ships.

3. Missle TURRETS!... Mins, Amarr (FTW), and Gallente all get very nice looking turrets, the Gallente get Great looking Hybred Turrets, Caldari get EMPTY sockets or Turrets from SAM's Club... THIS IS THE NUMBER ONE GRAPHIC ISSUE for Caldari, next was the skins... and don't show me the DRAKE... it at least looks like it's got missle turrets...but it's got 8 and they are flush with the hull - half/measures.

Since Caldari are the most played, these and other things affect the largest number of players... it would seem that some love should be placed in to the Caldar population...

Turrets, Ships, Effects - FTW!


This guy just won a golden medal :) would love to see a improvement to Caldari... or rather... the entire game regarding missiles and missile launchers... and Raven would need some more love... and a improvement...

Valentina Valentia
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2010.03.25 16:29:00 - [349]
 

Having Read this entire threat today (yes I was that motivated!)... I realized that some people haven't really seen this ship in 3D (SISI/test server) here are some glamore shots I did with my main and alts, it's a pair of Rokh (Pwr Miners on TQ, but it's Scorpions now on SISI, changes are a comming, and twin widows are up next).

Here are some additional angles, very photogenic ship...
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1003/2010.03.21.09.40.52.jpg

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1003/2010.03.21.09.41.33.jpg

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1003/2010.03.21.10.05.07.jpg

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1003/2010.03.21.10.07.20.jpg

Valentina Valentia
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2010.03.25 17:31:00 - [350]
 

Edited by: Valentina Valentia on 25/03/2010 18:42:36
Sorry for the double-post but... I was on SISI, and it got interesting! (Someone spike the Art Departments coffee!)

I think we got NEW BLASTERS! These are T1 Electrons/Ions - COULD they be bigger though? seem a little on the small side for a BS main weapon.

Electrons:
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1003/New_Electrons.jpg
Ions:
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1003/New_Ions.jpg

And as I stated earlier about the placement(s) I made a great drawing here... This is with 4 (max) turrets on, I think that they should go on the wing-tips... and I was wondering - Could you make a nice ECM turret? Maybe a smaller (spinning) thing like this one here what would show up when one mounted a ECM module on the Scorpion where the other guns are (since we can't have missiles - it would be a nice look for certain!)

Placement - The big point is NO EMPTY WING POINTS...BAD, NOT GOOD...NO, NO ...off the sofa...down.
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1003/Placement.jpg

Concept - (Wish List!) - Maybe rather then spinning they would just POINT like turrets do at the LOCKED TARGET (JAMMED)... that would be very nice.
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1003/Concept.jpg

Kenz Rider
J Club
Posted - 2010.03.27 01:34:00 - [351]
 

Please no more green space camo on Gallente.

Solhaya
Posted - 2010.03.29 15:39:00 - [352]
 

Yes, please change the Dominix. I like my Domi, but it's ugly as sin. Heck, its T2 variant is named Sin.

rofflesausage
Posted - 2010.03.30 14:06:00 - [353]
 

Originally by: Seghan
Downsizing the diffuse map to 512? Why would you do that?


I would also love to know the answer to this. It's the first thing that hit me when looking at the images.
I really don't understand why the P/G/S maps are 1024 and Diffuse 512.

Please include the 1024 size too - make it optional if you must.

Vergil Kankuro
Posted - 2010.04.05 12:46:00 - [354]
 

Originally by: Razin
Nice!

How about a Dominix model update? Something subtle maybe?


YES!! YES!! YES!!

elnukeo
Minmatar
Heretic Army
Posted - 2010.04.06 02:38:00 - [355]
 

SO CCP what other ships are you doing in the next expansion? If you cant tell us that how many?

VenRo ReBee
Gallente
Posted - 2010.04.06 23:20:00 - [356]
 

Originally by: Kenz Rider
Please no more green space camo on Gallente.


This

Green camouflage in space just doesn´t work

Veebora
Caldari
Posted - 2010.04.11 22:38:00 - [357]
 

Man, those Scorpions are awesome.

Please, more symmetrical ships!!!

Leanos
Posted - 2010.04.12 15:34:00 - [358]
 

Hand us the Fac.-Scorps!
RAAARW YARRRR!!YARRRR!!ExclamationExclamation

Dogzilla
Omega Merchant Command
Posted - 2010.04.14 09:37:00 - [359]
 

I think the ships in EVE are already coolastic.

Wtf Pwnage
Posted - 2010.04.15 23:36:00 - [360]
 

THANK YOU. Couple of moar ships in the Caldari fleet to go, but this is an EPIC START. Great job! (please boost our dps and nerf our tank) ok, thanks!

Written with a smile,

-WTF


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