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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.02.20 23:18:00 - [1]
 

When I was still brand new I was told the only way to make bpc's was in a POS. I have of course have learned that this is not true, you can do research on stations that have the facilities. However it has come to my attention that even the lowsec labs have a huge waiting list. I think what the person whom I have long forgotten was saying is "You need a POS (access to one) to actually make good money with BPO's".

What is the best way to get to a research or copy facility with no monster wait?

Estel Arador
Posted - 2010.02.20 23:50:00 - [2]
 

The best way to get to a research or copy facility with no monster wait is to...

*drum roll*

deploy your own labs at your own POS...

Reem Fairchild
Minmatar
Punic Corp.
Posted - 2010.02.20 23:56:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Cipher Jones
When I was still brand new I was told the only way to make bpc's was in a POS. I have of course have learned that this is not true, you can do research on stations that have the facilities. However it has come to my attention that even the lowsec labs have a huge waiting list. I think what the person whom I have long forgotten was saying is "You need a POS (access to one) to actually make good money with BPO's".

What is the best way to get to a research or copy facility with no monster wait?


There's still 0.0 NPC stations, but nowadays empty slots are starting to become few even out there.

skye orionis
Posted - 2010.02.21 00:26:00 - [4]
 

There are stations in lowsec with no waiting list for copy slots, you just have to go looking for them, and then fly 12 jumps through low sec, which isn't a problem I just took a low skill alt through that without a hitch.
You can also look in providence/northern catch there are quite a few stations that are owned by CVA and friends and they frequently have empty lab slots.
Generally the closer to hi-sec the more waiting you have to do.

Breaker77
Gallente
Reclamation Industries
Posted - 2010.02.21 00:30:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Cipher Jones
What is the best way to get to a research or copy facility with no monster wait?


Other than deploying your own POS, you can also contract with someone to provide you copies or find someone who will let you join their corp to use their POS for copying.

Abervest
Posted - 2010.02.21 00:39:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Abervest on 21/02/2010 01:03:11
like the other guy said,get your own.

put up a pos in hisec and get labs and advanced labs of your own.

while there are many issues (wardecs, standings, fuel costs)
it is entirely doable, i know several people who run their own small corp research pos's.

while they arent cheap for the individual person to start up (i guess it depends on your definition of expensive)
figure
100 for the small tower
90 per lab
150 per advanced lab

and whatever it costs you for fuel

not terrible but sometimes annoying, if your solo make yourself a corp and do missions to get standings, a single person can get the standings needed pretty quickly if they try at it

Breaker77
Gallente
Reclamation Industries
Posted - 2010.02.21 00:44:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Abervest
and 10-25 for fuel per month



What server do you play on? Isotopes alone for a small tower run around 35 million.


Reem Fairchild
Minmatar
Punic Corp.
Posted - 2010.02.21 01:52:00 - [8]
 

Fuel costs for a small tower are around 2 mil/day. So, about 60 mil/month.

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.02.21 05:22:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Abervest
Edited by: Abervest on 21/02/2010 01:03:11
like the other guy said,get your own.

put up a pos in hisec and get labs and advanced labs of your own.

while there are many issues (wardecs, standings, fuel costs)
it is entirely doable, i know several people who run their own small corp research pos's.

while they arent cheap for the individual person to start up (i guess it depends on your definition of expensive)
figure
100 for the small tower
90 per lab
150 per advanced lab

and whatever it costs you for fuel

not terrible but sometimes annoying, if your solo make yourself a corp and do missions to get standings, a single person can get the standings needed pretty quickly if they try at it


Looks like I need some sort of primer or guide to accomplish this, if anyone has a link that would be swell. I know about the missioning sites and the mining sites, guess I need to know about the Industry ones. I appreciate the help.

Veliria
Posted - 2010.02.21 10:49:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Reem Fairchild
Fuel costs for a small tower are around 2 mil/day. So, about 60 mil/month.


Interesting, my medium faction tower costs about 30-35mil to fuel every two weeks.
Seeing as how a medium consumes twice as much as a small...

Sarina Berghil
Minmatar
New Zion Judge Advocate
Yulai Federation
Posted - 2010.02.21 12:32:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Sarina Berghil on 21/02/2010 12:32:35
Best option is to buy BPCs.

They are often for sale as contracts at extemely low prices, with huge research levels. There's no way you can make them cheaper yourself.

Downside is that there is usually not a big variety for sale, but you could try contacting some of the sellers, advertise in the BP trade channel, or put up a want add on this forum.

You save a lot of work, save cash on better blueprints, and most importantly you get market flexibility by not investing a lot of money and time in a single BPO.

Mara Rinn
Posted - 2010.02.21 12:45:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Cipher Jones
Looks like I need some sort of primer or guide to accomplish this, if anyone has a link...


You might want to start with Kazua Ishiguro's guide to POS labs? There's also a IGB POS calculator to help you figure out fuel costs for various POS configurations.

Here's a fancy guide to The Mystery of ME, PE and Perfect ME.

And last but not least, Grand Commander 13's (outdated but still useful) Science and Industry Guide.

NotFred
Posted - 2010.02.21 13:11:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: skye orionis

You can also look in providence/northern catch there are quite a few stations that are owned by CVA and friends and they frequently have empty lab slots.



I don't know if you've noticed... But Providence is a huge war zone right now...

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.02.21 16:33:00 - [14]
 

I see, you can have a lab in hisec, you anchor it like a gsc. You just have to buy the lab and fuel, have the proper skills. Thanks a lot, I'll look into it further.

Breaker77
Gallente
Reclamation Industries
Posted - 2010.02.21 19:22:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Veliria
Originally by: Reem Fairchild
Fuel costs for a small tower are around 2 mil/day. So, about 60 mil/month.


Interesting, my medium faction tower costs about 30-35mil to fuel every two weeks.
Seeing as how a medium consumes twice as much as a small...


Interesting considering that faction towers use a lot less fuel than normal towers Rolling Eyes

Standard towers run, on average, around 50, 100, 200 mil per month (depending on price). Faction towers run about 75% less than standard. 60-70 mil a month for your faction tower is about right if you are getting a good price for your fuel.


 

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