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Arak Mutar
Posted - 2010.02.18 19:26:00 - [121]
 

Bug report page tells me some bugs I reported will be "Fixed in: Planetary Interaction". As those are simple bugs, one could expect "Planetary Interaction" to be the next big update to the client...

Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
Posted - 2010.02.18 19:26:00 - [122]
 

Edited by: Ranger 1 on 18/02/2010 19:26:49
Originally by: Ryhss
Edited by: Ryhss on 18/02/2010 19:14:29
Originally by: Dirk Magnum
I want to walk in stations you should add something like that hurrVery Happy
I really hope not.
I read somewhere that theres going to be T3 Frigates.


Originally by: Genya Arikaido
Ambulation / WiS / Incarna has been promised as the "winter" expansion for 3? 4? years now? At this point, I just want closure so I can feel content with the game as it is now. Sick of being led on...
Only 42 years......


Yes, T3 frigates are a strong possibility for the next expansion.

No, Incarna has never been given a firm release date, let alone "promised" to be in a winter expansion. All that has been mentioned is that it will come AFTER planetary interaction (for obvious reasons), and that planetary interaction will likely be in the next expansion.

People have a tendency to present their personal expectations as fact on these boards.

Ryhss
Caldari
The Excecutorans
Posted - 2010.02.18 19:31:00 - [123]
 

Originally by: Brolly
I want my t3 frig with interdictor nullifier and cloak, maybe even a worm hole generator (awesome random fun!!!) and maybe a micro jump drive.

All I care about it T3 frig of awesomeness

Wasn't industry overhaul meant to be T3? *shrugs*
I just remembered, T3 frigs were mentioned at FanFest '09, not here, so maybe not in THIS expansion.....

Kharamete
Amarr
Posted - 2010.02.18 21:31:00 - [124]
 

Originally by: Peter Powers

If it's anything but Incarna, i am happy like a little boy who got his first knife. i seriously dont get why so many people are that excited about walking arround, in the end this game is about flying spaceships, and i dont see how walking arround adds to that experience.
Rather see them spend more time on other stuff (new Content, improvements to current content, improvement to engine etc etc etc.) then on a feature where i dont understand what it is good for.


No. This game is about pvp. Player versus player. This game is social, and it is about defeating you, or any other player. Whether that is done by shooting you (general you) in the face, or paying someone (or a hundred someones) to shoot you in the face is beside the point.

It's social. It's pvp.


Malen Nenokal
The Nightshift
Posted - 2010.02.19 00:13:00 - [125]
 

This thread makes me very thirsty for a new devblog.

Capt Fossil
Gallente
Posted - 2010.02.19 00:35:00 - [126]
 

The new expansion has a new weapon.

GM Goon Evaporator....

Or was that Dominion????????????????????

Nepech Al'akir
Amarr
Resonance.
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2010.02.19 09:36:00 - [127]
 

Originally by: Arthur Frayn
Originally by: CCP Diagoras
SPOILER!

It's going to be awesome.


That's like a Christian telling an Atheist that heaven is real.


Needs a quote. Can we fix Dominion before we start talking about having to deal with the next bucket of bugs?

Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
Posted - 2010.02.19 09:41:00 - [128]
 

I'm willing to bet there will be plenty of things that make it competitive with another space/science fiction MMO from a popular science fiction genre, which has walking around in environments, of which I will not mention by name because it is so fail that even uttering it would cause my head to cave in and my heart to explode. And no, I don't mean DUNE.

moola
Band Of Frogs
Posted - 2010.02.19 13:29:00 - [129]
 

This whole year will be geared towards preping EVE for dust and Incarna.

There will be little things added to stop us moaning about lack of content, but dont expect alot.

Dust is a joke, it should be in eve, but why give people more than one type of gaming for there subs, when you can make moar money from the console market (silly people who buy a new game every month coz console games have a playability life of 1-2 months).

Incarna is a cruel joke on the player base who will be used to TEST the new engine and netcode, not to add something new to eve thats lacking, if that were the case, why stop at walking in stations and let people walk about on planets and ships? you can already exclude planets because of DUST, and ships why bother everyone knows we live in an egg in our ships (and dont say they will add that later because i for one am not willing to wait an other 4-5 years for it to be added).

All the resoures that have been wasted making Dust and Incarna should have been spent on making EVE and CCP the leader in MMO gaming instead they have opted for the cash in.

As CCP's new products come online do you think eve support and develpment wont suffer? do you really think EVE isnt suffering now?

Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
Posted - 2010.02.19 15:00:00 - [130]
 

Quote:
This whole year will be geared towards preping EVE for dust and Incarna.


Actually, prep work has been going on for 3+ years.

Quote:
There will be little things added to stop us moaning about lack of content, but dont expect alot.


You mean little things like Planetary Interaction and T3 Frigates.

Quote:
Dust is a joke, it should be in eve, but why give people more than one type of gaming for there subs, when you can make moar money from the console market (silly people who buy a new game every month coz console games have a playability life of 1-2 months).


Attempting to bring a FPS into the EVE would be significantly harder to do than developing it for the console.
Planetary Interaction will bring a different type of gaming to EVE, as will the content in Incarna.
When did making more money become a bad thing?
CCP is trying to bring something new to the console market on a number of levels, including longevity.

Quote:
Incarna is a cruel joke on the player base who will be used to TEST the new engine and netcode, not to add something new to eve thats lacking, if that were the case, why stop at walking in stations and let people walk about on planets and ships? you can already exclude planets because of DUST, and ships why bother everyone knows we live in an egg in our ships (and dont say they will add that later because i for one am not willing to wait an other 4-5 years for it to be added).


Incarna was going to be developed anyway for WOD (newsflash: CCP is a game development company, not just an EVE development company).
In case you haven't noticed, EVE actually DOES lack a first person perspective currently.
You may very well have a cabin on your ship, unless plans have changed. We'll have to see how things go before we talk about more than stations. PS: Nobody asked you to wait for a feature you apparently see no value in.

Quote:
All the resoures that have been wasted making Dust and Incarna should have been spent on making EVE and CCP the leader in MMO gaming instead they have opted for the cash in.


CCP and EVE already are leaders in the MMO industry, and soon look to become leaders in the gaming industry as a whole.
Those "resources" would have been allocated to other games, this way we reap the benefits. Sorry you can't see that. They never claimed that EVE would be the only product that they would ever develop, and would have been foolish to do so.

Quote:
As CCP's new products come online do you think eve support and develpment wont suffer? do you really think EVE isnt suffering now?


The only "issues" EVE is suffering from currently were due to bugs in the latest expansion. Its happened before and will happen again, regardless of other projects.

I have to give you points though. It's rare to see so much fail packed into a single post.




Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2010.02.19 15:02:00 - [131]
 

Shouldn't you wait for Incarna to at least appear on the test server before condemning them for playing a "cruel joke" on us?

Or do you have some actual information? I assume you're not just spouting hate to try and look all cool and :bittervet:

Genya Arikaido
Posted - 2010.02.19 15:16:00 - [132]
 

Edited by: Genya Arikaido on 19/02/2010 15:16:02
Confirming Ranger 1 is a devalt. Rolling Eyes

Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
Posted - 2010.02.19 15:31:00 - [133]
 

Originally by: Genya Arikaido
Edited by: Genya Arikaido on 19/02/2010 15:16:02
Confirming Ranger 1 is a devalt. Rolling Eyes


If I were affiliated with CCP I'd probably have more patience with nitwits. Laughing


Riedle
Minmatar
Paradox Collective
Posted - 2010.02.19 19:42:00 - [134]
 

Originally by: Peter Powers
Originally by: Genya Arikaido
Edited by: Genya Arikaido on 17/02/2010 15:39:29
If it's anything but Incarna, I don't care.
If it's anything but Incarna, the dev posts in this topic are fail.
If it's anything but Incarna, then EVE has turned into a carrot-led cash cow.
If it's anything but Incarna, I want to hear that it has been CANCELED so we stop waiting for it.
Evil or Very Mad

If it's anything but Incarna, i am happy like a little boy who got his first knife. i seriously dont get why so many people are that excited about walking arround, in the end this game is about flying spaceships, and i dont see how walking arround adds to that experience.
Rather see them spend more time on other stuff (new Content, improvements to current content, improvement to engine etc etc etc.) then on a feature where i dont understand what it is good for.


Yeah, I'm with you.

I have no idea why people want Incarna and why CCP does either.
I think it is a dangerous mis-adventure for CCP taking them away from what they do best which is make a pew pew spaceship game. This incarna BS is just an expensive and time wasting exercise to placate whining carebears if you ask me.

Rainus Max
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.02.19 19:45:00 - [135]
 

Just in case you missed it: Linkage

I win \Very Happy/

Yuki Kulotsuki
Posted - 2010.02.19 20:00:00 - [136]
 

Originally by: Rainus Max
Just in case you missed it: Linkage

I win \Very Happy/


WOOT!

Slade Hoo
Amarr
Retired Gunslingers
Posted - 2010.02.19 20:09:00 - [137]
 

Basically -> ignore all known issues in Eve, make moon goo v2.0, name it "Tyrannis".

Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
Perditus Peregrinus
Posted - 2010.02.19 20:21:00 - [138]
 


Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
Posted - 2010.02.19 20:27:00 - [139]
 

Originally by: Slade Hoo
Basically -> ignore all known issues in Eve, make moon goo v2.0, name it "Tyrannis".


tbh, we've no idea what moongoo 2.0 will address or not, so *drama* is premature

Yuki Kulotsuki
Posted - 2010.02.19 20:28:00 - [140]
 

Originally by: Slade Hoo
Basically -> ignore all known issues in Eve, make moon goo v2.0, name it "Tyrannis".


So did you even read the devblog? There's a short paragraph talking explicitly about fixing issues.

Haxfar Portlaind
Posted - 2010.02.19 20:31:00 - [141]
 

Edited by: Haxfar Portlaind on 19/02/2010 20:34:53
should we nickname the new expansion ****** or stalin? Wink (****** = a quit important german figur during WWII)

Nice to finally see something on it, better start reading that blog. Smile

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2010.02.19 20:35:00 - [142]
 

Hmm, lets see. We start with planetary interaction to give the eve side of the dust influanced sov equation time to build up the infrastructure that we will then fight over when incarna/dust hits later this year or early next. Though I'm going to bet it will be the next expansion after Tyrannis unless they have some sort of bug fix/code refining expansion with limited new content for after this one which tbh would be my preferred choice if there are still serious flaws to work out after PI hits.

Vyktor Abyss
The Abyss Corporation
Posted - 2010.02.19 21:29:00 - [143]
 

Originally by: Yuki Kulotsuki
Originally by: Slade Hoo
Basically -> ignore all known issues in Eve, make moon goo v2.0, name it "Tyrannis".


So did you even read the devblog? There's a short paragraph talking explicitly about fixing issues.


Did you even read the devblog?

I didn't see "fixes" mentioned at all - he talks about "optimizations and improvements" and fleet fight lag in a paragraph and you've interpreted that to be fixes. He doesn't acknowledge any bugs by saying there will be fixes; only says in Developer speak that some stuff might get done that might improve current issues - covering his ass so people can't nail it to the wall when he/they can't deliver.

Realisticly, they'll undoubtable fix some bugs and introduce a shedload more.

Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
Posted - 2010.02.19 21:37:00 - [144]
 

Quote:
He doesn't acknowledge any bugs by saying there will be fixes; only says in Developer speak that some stuff might get done that might improve current issues


I'm sure in your head this made sense.


Tibalt Avalon
Posted - 2010.02.19 21:38:00 - [145]
 

Edited by: Tibalt Avalon on 19/02/2010 21:39:07
Originally by: Roxanna Kell
is it more regions?


You already have 3... Isn't that Enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vyktor Abyss
The Abyss Corporation
Posted - 2010.02.19 21:53:00 - [146]
 

Originally by: Ranger 1
Quote:
He doesn't acknowledge any bugs by saying there will be fixes; only says in Developer speak that some stuff might get done that might improve current issues


I'm sure in your head this made sense.




I was a software tester for a few years so I'm probably more suspicious than most when I read wishy-washy developer comments.
Because comments like "optimizations and improvements" in their Devspeak language could mean for example: removing a shader setting.

He'd never say "fixing this bug X or that bug Y" because well that firstly acknowledges code errors, and secvondly ties them to a specific task/deadline that they can then be accountable for if they fail to deliver that fix.

If you dont comprehend that then you've probably never done UAT or worked in the IT industry.

Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
Posted - 2010.02.19 22:12:00 - [147]
 

Originally by: Vyktor Abyss
Originally by: Ranger 1
Quote:
He doesn't acknowledge any bugs by saying there will be fixes; only says in Developer speak that some stuff might get done that might improve current issues


I'm sure in your head this made sense.




I was a software tester for a few years so I'm probably more suspicious than most when I read wishy-washy developer comments.
Because comments like "optimizations and improvements" in their Devspeak language could mean for example: removing a shader setting.

He'd never say "fixing this bug X or that bug Y" because well that firstly acknowledges code errors, and secvondly ties them to a specific task/deadline that they can then be accountable for if they fail to deliver that fix.

If you dont comprehend that then you've probably never done UAT or worked in the IT industry.



It always amazes me how quickly people morph into game development experts after they beta test a piece of software. Especially when they are losing an argument. Laughing

Let me direct you to the blog that outlines in more detail the steps "currently" being taken to address the bugs we are dealing with.

CCP Tanis Blog

Educate yourself, then we'll talk.

Vyktor Abyss
The Abyss Corporation
Posted - 2010.02.19 23:19:00 - [148]
 

Go go forum warrior!!

I was a software testing professional for Cap Gemini IT consultancy not a lowly Beta tester. Shyt job, but kinda like, y'know... paid in real s for my testing skills in professional IT environments (mostly Telecomms but the testing theory is the same).

Regarding the blog you linked - I'll admit I had missed that one and was commenting on the blog y'know that we were talking about. Educate myself? YOU mean spend more time on the Eve forums - thats not going to happen coz well, it'd interrupt my pub going time. Smile

Now friend, I'm not arguing with you, I'm enlightening you with some tester/developer wisdom - don't be so uppity please oh Forum king. Razz


Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
Posted - 2010.02.19 23:27:00 - [149]
 

I rest my case. Wink

Vyktor Abyss
The Abyss Corporation
Posted - 2010.02.19 23:29:00 - [150]
 

Originally by: Ranger 1
I rest my case. Wink


What case? Laughing

Now you're a forum solicitor/lawyer? Jeebus...some people.


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