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Caldari
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2010.02.10 20:38:00 - [1]
 

Hey guys Smile

I was just working on my Ore Table and especially it's update script, which I extended to fetch prices from every region in New Eden.
And what I found out is this: Eve Central doesn't give me any values on mineral prices for nearly half of my queries.
This is because there's simply no one contributing data to the site, which is pretty bad and makes carebears cry Crying or Very sad

So what I want from you is the following:
Download the Eve-Central update tool: http://eve-central.com/home/software.html
Run it sometimes while mining, and use the "Export to file"-feature of the Eve client on your regional mineral market.
The EC-Updater will autmatically upload the market data to it's website and thus help software developers relying on that data developping their software :)

Thanks, and check out my Ore Table!
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Flitterby
Posted - 2010.02.10 21:54:00 - [2]
 

The ore market is very competitive, the margins are small, and prices swing quickly. Eve-Central will never have up-to-date ore prices.

ISellThingz
Posted - 2010.02.10 22:13:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: ISellThingz on 10/02/2010 22:13:23
Originally by: Flitterby
The ore market is very competitive, the margins are small, and prices swing quickly. Eve-Central will never have up-to-date ore prices.

True, but it's better then nothing!

Efraya
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.02.10 22:55:00 - [4]
 

Hello,

I see that you are recommending that people install the eve-central tool to upload market orders to eve-central.

Exporting each item to file is carpal tunnel producing and the author of aforementioned tool has made one that does the same job but there is no need for players to export to file all the time. This makes uploading to eve central unbelievably easy. I think all pod pilots should install the new version, there is no excuse, no need to register, no need to do anything, just browse the market like you would do normally.

Contribtastic 2.0 Alpha 3

If you get an invalid path, or nothing is being uploaded

Make sure the “Using folder:” field mentions the “CachedMethodCalls” folder at the end of the path. On Windows 7/Vista, this is usually at:

Quote:
c:\users\yourname\AppData\Local\CCP\EVE\c_program_files_(x86)_ccp_eve_tranquility\cache\MachoNet\87.237.38.200\235\CachedMethodCalls (64-bit)
or
c:\users\yourname\AppData\Local\CCP\EVE\c_program_files_ccp_eve_tranquility\cache\MachoNet\87.237.38.200\235\CachedMethodCalls (32-bit)

Note: Dominion 1.1 is now 235\CachedMethodCalls - please check and update accordingly


Old version sucks compared to this one =P

Jason Marshall
Gallente
Mad Bombers
Guns and Alcohol
Posted - 2010.02.10 22:59:00 - [5]
 

Why would I want to assist my competitors by uploading market data for things im trading?

Efraya
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.02.10 23:00:00 - [6]
 

Because the Universe will give you Karma points and tomorrow you won't get hit by a bus.

Wieting Foyu
Gallente
Apocalypse Rising Inc.
Posted - 2010.02.11 01:38:00 - [7]
 

Why would I want to help anyone that needs a tool like this to cheat?

Mara Rinn
Posted - 2010.02.11 02:00:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Efraya
I think all pod pilots should install the new version, there is no excuse


I use a Mac, which doesn't support either the DotNet framework, nor Windows-only applications.

I'm still using the uploader. Just tick the box to stop EVE telling you that it's just exported the file like you asked it to, voilá much less clicking involved.

Now if there was a Python, Ruby or Perl version of the libcache stuff, I could probably do something with that.

De'vix
Posted - 2010.02.11 02:44:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: De''vix on 11/02/2010 02:58:45
Curious, but once I run EVE-Central Contribtastic, how do I read files it collects? Is it wxPython Adaptation?

Maven Deltor
Posted - 2010.02.11 03:32:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Wieting Foyu
Why would I want to help anyone that needs a tool like this to cheat?

Cheating is not the right word. This is journalism if anything. It's not a crime.

Lord Helghast
Posted - 2010.02.11 13:46:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Lord Helghast on 11/02/2010 14:00:54
Edited by: Lord Helghast on 11/02/2010 13:59:24
cheat? how is this cheating, one of eve's strengths are its abundance of offline and shared online tools that help everyone get an overview...

as for "why wud i update things that im trading" so dont export the damn trades u're using lol, export the ore if your a miner or industrialist so that we always have updated ore / mineral prices, since i doubt people are "trading" minerals, ok some are lol, but still if u're not just upload the friggin prices...

CERLESTES: what u might want to do is check EVE-METRICS, and EVE-CENTRAL, and use the prices that were updated most recently. eve eve-central has freshest data when u poll use them, if eve-metrics has freshest data use them.

Also any chance of you expanding the historical graphs to 2-3 mths, maybe lower the resolution for older data (like have it show only daily avg for over 1 mth old instead of what appears to be hourly for the current past 30 days)

While im on the topic of price trend :) how about ore/ice pricetrends

Wieting Foyu
Gallente
Apocalypse Rising Inc.
Posted - 2010.02.12 03:51:00 - [12]
 

Using anything out of the design of a game to increase your overall position is cheating. EVE didn't design it.. the players did. So stating that is what makes EVE great doesn't make sense. It is bad enough that you have to cheat to be good at a game... but to ask help in cheating just adds cargo to the failboat.

Zifrian
Deep Space Innovations
Posted - 2010.02.12 07:01:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Wieting Foyu
Using anything out of the design of a game to increase your overall position is cheating. EVE didn't design it.. the players did. So stating that is what makes EVE great doesn't make sense. It is bad enough that you have to cheat to be good at a game... but to ask help in cheating just adds cargo to the failboat.


CCP doesn't have a problem with it, thus not cheating.

Don't play if you don't like it.

Jack Sabastian
Posted - 2010.02.12 11:12:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Wieting Foyu
Using anything out of the design of a game to increase your overall position is cheating. EVE didn't design it.. the players did. So stating that is what makes EVE great doesn't make sense. It is bad enough that you have to cheat to be good at a game... but to ask help in cheating just adds cargo to the failboat.


Ah, but they did design it, why else would they have an "export to file" option on market data? They have also said that reading from the cache files is perfectly fine.

Wieting Foyu
Gallente
Apocalypse Rising Inc.
Posted - 2010.02.13 00:04:00 - [15]
 

So they can be manipulated by anyone that has notepade.exe on their pc. I don't play with eve-central, I know how to use in game mechanics to play for free since day one.

Agent Unknown
Caldari
Posted - 2010.02.13 00:51:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Wieting Foyu
So they can be manipulated by anyone that has notepade.exe on their pc. I don't play with eve-central, I know how to use in game mechanics to play for free since day one.


Last I checked you can't use notepad to modify the cache files. Rolling Eyes

Jason W0rthing
Posted - 2010.02.13 22:32:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Wieting Foyu
Why would I want to help anyone that needs a tool like this to cheat?


Wtf are you on about? I can only assume that you are trolling in that case 5/10. If not you must just be insane, calling collecting and assimilating PUBLICLY available market data cheating.

Twilight Moon
Minmatar
Tague Corp
Posted - 2010.02.14 09:47:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Wieting Foyu
I don't play with eve-central, I know how to use in game mechanics to play for free since day one.


Thanks for the info.


ingenting
Garoun Investment Bank
Posted - 2010.02.14 18:04:00 - [19]
 

Wieting Foyu, CCP have stated that it is not cheating. Leave if you dont like it.

Emporer Norton
Posted - 2010.02.14 21:31:00 - [20]
 

I use eve-central all the time to decide where to sell and also if going into a market it gives an idea of what things are selling for where can also use info to buy one region and sell somewhere else but is not cheating is same as going on pricecheck channel and saying hey what is buy/sell price of exotic dancers where you are at?


 

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