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Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2010.02.19 11:50:00 - [31]
 

Edited by: Hel O''Ween on 19/02/2010 17:15:33
Version 2.0.2 has been released.

This version adds some nice enhancements.

Assets, market orders, wallet journal and transactions may now be sorted in various ways.

A new (seperate) tool is available: Auto data downloader (EWAAutoData). This is an API data grabber, which you may run in the background. It downloads new API data for all your EWA characters. This is a zero installation/configuration tool. Just download the EXE to your EWA installation folder and run it. It shares it's configuration with EWA. EWA itself doesn't need to run, for this tool to work properly.

[Added]
Forgot to mention: I've packed togeter the manual and provide it as a download, too. Just unpack it and open index.html in your browser.

Version information
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Companion Trollin
You are going too fast
Posted - 2010.02.19 15:44:00 - [32]
 

Quote:
Wallet transactions. An additional filter ISK has been added, allowing for filtering on item prices. Please not that the initial filter condition, which is <> 0 (not equal to zero), doesn't actaully filter something, but disables filtering on item prices.


Very Happy

Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2010.02.19 16:17:00 - [33]
 

Just to please you, Ma'am. Wink

Wiglaf Bane
Posted - 2010.02.24 09:01:00 - [34]
 

Hello!

I love your program! I mainly use it for asset valuation, but I've run into an odd problem. Asset imports only work about 1/4 of the time, mostly before I've run EVE since booting the machine. Most of the time I'll hit "Import Assets" and it'll just sit there.

I'm running Windows 7 64bit as an admin.


Any thoughts on this?

Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2010.02.24 10:32:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Wiglaf Bane

I mainly use it for asset valuation, but I've run into an odd problem. Asset imports only work about 1/4 of the time, mostly before I've run EVE since booting the machine. Most of the time I'll hit "Import Assets" and it'll just sit there.



Hmm, not enough information to really tell what's going on.

- Have you checked Extras -> Application log if there are some errors in there related to assets? If you're unsure, export the suspect entries to a text file and send me an email.

- Have you checked Extras -> Cached XML files if there's an asset entry?

- If so, are assets in there (lot's of stuff you can't make sense of) of if it says something like "Expired, Try again at ..."?

An explanation for the last two questions (Hint, it's also explained in the manual): the asset API can only be fetched once every 24 hours. By *one* application (from the same IP address for the same account).

Quote:

I'm running Windows 7 64bit as an admin.



AFAIK, it shouldn't be necessary to run EWA as an admin. XP comp. mode eventually. But other than the installation itself, EWA should not required admin rights, as it doesn't write to any protected folder but keeps everything to "Documents and settings" (W2K/XP) or "User" (Vista/Win7)

As an alternative: if you're just looking for asset management, have also a look at jEveAssets by Golden Gnu. It's specialized on assets and I frankly admit that it does a better job in managing assets than EWA does.

clixoras
Posted - 2010.02.24 15:28:00 - [36]
 

Thx for releasing v2. It installs fine on my w7 x64 and seems to work very smooth.
The only thing i'm really missing is a 'pure' profit overview. Correct me if i'm wrong but i can only see a total spent and sold overview. But not total profit for only sold items.

Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2010.02.24 17:13:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: clixoras

The only thing i'm really missing is a 'pure' profit overview. Correct me if i'm wrong but i can only see a total spent and sold overview. But not total profit for only sold items.


Sorry, could you rephrase that, as I'm not sure that I understand what exactly you're looking for?

That said, see if "Wallet transactions" -> filter "Transaction type" = "Sell" does what you want. I think you're looking for something like this ...

Magnu Stormhawk
Stormhawk Enterprises
Posted - 2010.02.24 17:34:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: clixoras
Thx for releasing v2. It installs fine on my w7 x64 and seems to work very smooth.
The only thing i'm really missing is a 'pure' profit overview. Correct me if i'm wrong but i can only see a total spent and sold overview. But not total profit for only sold items.


I don't believe this information is available within the program. You can look at particular items and see total sales and total purchases, but it does not take into account unsold items, so it is only useful if you have sold out of them and have not bought any more.

I would love to know if i'm wrong, or if there is a program that actually has a go at calculating this. The problem with it is that you can only work it out if you have a cost value for each item, and the average cost value for each item changes every time you buy another one.

Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2010.02.25 12:25:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Magnu Stormhawk

I don't believe this information is available within the program. You can look at particular items and see total sales and total purchases, but it does not take into account unsold items, so it is only useful if you have sold out of them and have not bought any more.

I would love to know if i'm wrong, or if there is a program that actually has a go at calculating this. The problem with it is that you can only work it out if you have a cost value for each item, and the average cost value for each item changes every time you buy another one.


Ah, now I understand (I think). You (OP) want to know the profit of items you bought and then sold, disregarding those that you bought but are still listed as a sell order/sit in your hangar.

No, EWA doesn't do that. I know that EMMA tries to estimate this. But there's no real way to tell, as the API doesn't track items/match purchases to sales.

Say, you bought 100x Item A for 100,000 ISK and 50x Item A for 105,000 ISK. You than sell 50x Item A for 150,000 ISK. Were those 50 sales from the batch of 100 you bought at 100,000 or from that 50 batch at 105,000 ISK? Or 34 from the 105,000 ISK pile and 16 from the 100,000 ISK stock. Or .... <lots of combinations>.

I *think* EMMA does this on a FIFO basis. But it's only a guess.

Beauty III
Posted - 2010.02.25 19:26:00 - [40]
 

Any chance I can set this up on a portable device? (Put ini in application folder?)

Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2010.02.25 20:00:00 - [41]
 

Short answer: somewhat ...

Long answer: you could set it up to run from a portable device, given you register the necessary components the first time you run it on a new PC. But as of now, EWA will nonetheless expect the INI to be in All users\AppData and will alway write some text logs to there.

The easiest way to make EWA "portable" is to install it on each machine, than copy the database to the portable device and edit the INI to reflect its location.

William Warestrader
Caldari
King Wholesaling
Posted - 2010.03.01 11:42:00 - [42]
 

Edited by: William Warestrader on 01/03/2010 12:59:07
Edited by: William Warestrader on 01/03/2010 11:42:23
Posted this on the other thread before I realized you had rolled out 2.x I updated and still am getting the same results so I'm posting the message here....
--------------------

Hey, can we get the math fixed on this thing? I absolutely love this program but It sure would be a lot more useful if it returned accurate calculations. I checked the wallet in game and it's got the right answer so I'm left assuming it's a calculation mistake in the program. See what you think.

<image removed, problem was solved below.>

1,714,285 * 379.24 = 650,125,443.40 NOT 637,122,934.53
2,721,944 * 377.70 = 1,028,078,248.80 NOT 1,007,516,683.82

I'll let you check the math on the rest. This was very frustrating to find since I do double entry accounting in GnuCash on my corp in order to keep track of profit loss information. I thought the mistakes were mine... Teach me to trust other apps :)

Great program though mate, thanks for providing it, but really would like to see a quick fix roll out for this.

Thanks.

Magnu Stormhawk
Stormhawk Enterprises
Posted - 2010.03.01 11:50:00 - [43]
 

Have you got tax and broker fee estimations checked in the options? Looks like the values it is calculating for the total reciept is around 2% less than the price x volume, which would equate to the costs of a sale for a char with no trade sills trained.

William Warestrader
Caldari
King Wholesaling
Posted - 2010.03.01 12:56:00 - [44]
 

Edited by: William Warestrader on 01/03/2010 12:58:13
Originally by: Magnu Stormhawk
Have you got tax and broker fee estimations checked in the options? Looks like the values it is calculating for the total reciept is around 2% less than the price x volume, which would equate to the costs of a sale for a char with no trade sills trained.


Problem solved and I feel like an idiot.

Thank you very much for the pointer... I'd think that option would be better left unchecked by default, but developer choice. :)

Again great app... Thanks for your help Magnu

Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2010.03.01 15:06:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: William Warestrader

I'd think that option would be better left unchecked by default, but developer choice. :)



It is unchecked by default. You maybe tinkered with that before and forgot to reset it later?

Wendelgard
Gallente
Herrscher der Zeit
Smacked Alliance
Posted - 2010.03.02 18:35:00 - [46]
 

I hope you do not mind if I post my ideas here:

Generally spoken, EWA is a great tool although the interface may look dowdy. Anyway, in the assets window I am missing the following topics:
- the group filter could be changed so that the user is able to filter by blueprints in general, ore, minerals ammo etc. in general.
- It is correct of you including assets that have a value of ISK 0.00. By doing so you should be honest to all items. In my assets list I am misising the listing of them. Apropos: Is there any way to determine the worth a charakter? I am not thinking of the time required to train the know skills. I am basically thinking of the spent amount to buy the skill books and the the currently used implants.
- I noticed the captions of the colums are clickable but without any effect. Is it planned when the user clicks on one caption that assets are sorted by that column?

I appreciate that EWA has the capability to export the assets to Excel. Generally, I think there is no need to reproduce the Excel dump in the exact way it looks as in EWA. When using Excel, please be aware that people want to work with the figures. Or, in other words, for them it is important that the spreadsheet is clearly readable.

In the Excel dump, may I hint you using an extra column summing up the subtotals ? This would make it easilier to use formulas.

As far I heard, you, the author, as well as the later user may not worry about the localized versions of Excel regarding the name of functions.

I hope I gave you some input to think about

Best regards,

Wendelgard

William Warestrader
Caldari
King Wholesaling
Posted - 2010.03.03 16:13:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Hel O'Ween
Originally by: William Warestrader

I'd think that option would be better left unchecked by default, but developer choice. :)



It is unchecked by default. You maybe tinkered with that before and forgot to reset it later?


I didn't think so, but with my lack of sleep and overactive life it's highly likely I tinkered with something and don't remember it. Either way, all fixed up and thanks for the app and the support. :)

William Warestrader
Caldari
King Wholesaling
Posted - 2010.03.03 16:18:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Wendelgard
I hope you do not mind if I post my ideas here:

Generally spoken, EWA is a great tool although the interface may look dowdy. Anyway, in the assets window I am missing the following topics:
- the group filter could be changed so that the user is able to filter by blueprints in general, ore, minerals ammo etc. in general.
- It is correct of you including assets that have a value of ISK 0.00. By doing so you should be honest to all items. In my assets list I am misising the listing of them. Apropos: Is there any way to determine the worth a charakter? I am not thinking of the time required to train the know skills. I am basically thinking of the spent amount to buy the skill books and the the currently used implants.
- I noticed the captions of the colums are clickable but without any effect. Is it planned when the user clicks on one caption that assets are sorted by that column?

I appreciate that EWA has the capability to export the assets to Excel. Generally, I think there is no need to reproduce the Excel dump in the exact way it looks as in EWA. When using Excel, please be aware that people want to work with the figures. Or, in other words, for them it is important that the spreadsheet is clearly readable.

In the Excel dump, may I hint you using an extra column summing up the subtotals ? This would make it easilier to use formulas.

As far I heard, you, the author, as well as the later user may not worry about the localized versions of Excel regarding the name of functions.

I hope I gave you some input to think about

Best regards,

Wendelgard


I'll add to this group of suggestions:

I have a small little application I wrote that I use for manual inventory purposes. in it I included the ability to call the api and calculate out how many hours each user spent using slots in the pos or for the corporation. I'd love to see EWA add that functionality in. Your current setup would allow you to easily do more with the data than I'm able to atm. I pay all my corp members by the hour for any invention/copy/manufacturing/ml work they do on the corporations behalf. If EWA could add in the ability to return the hours for each persons work for each type of work for a given period that would be sweet. If we could assign a dolor value to those hours based on the type of work that would be even better!

Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2010.03.05 12:17:00 - [49]
 

I'm afraid I need to disappoint you, guys.

Before answering in detail, let me try to explain EWA's philosophy:

- EWA is a trading tool. I leave character management (and evaluation) to EVEMon and the like. I leave production management to EveHQ and the like. I leave POS management to MyPOS and the like. EWA is no corp management tool. I leave that to <don't know an app>. Besides that: I have no personal experience in the above realms.

- No manual input! EWA was built with the goal in mind, that no user should ever manually add data (except your API key(s)), because it's a nightmare to manage.

Now on to your suggestions.

Quote:

- the group filter could be changed so that the user is able to filter by blueprints in general, ore, minerals ammo etc. in general.



These groups are CCP's groups (invGroups) taken from the data dump. I might add market groups (which are a different beast than those groups) as a filter sometime.

Quote:

- It is correct of you including assets that have a value of ISK 0.00. By doing so you should be honest to all items. In my assets list I am misising the listing of them.



I'm still struggling with assets. The problem is the location of assets. Items in POS' and in space might still be missing.

Quote:

- I noticed the captions of the colums are clickable but without any effect. Is it planned when the user clicks on one caption that assets are sorted by that column?



They do (most of them), since the last release (2.0.2). RTFM! http://eve.basicaware.de/EVEWalletAware/version.html. It's also in the manual.

Quote:

Excel stuff



The Excel stuff is a option of the grid, nothing I coded. Therefore I can't influence anything there. Sorry, mate.

@William: I'm not going to turn EWA into a POS/corp management tool. Have you had a look at EveHQ? You/someone might be able to write a plugin for EveHQ.

Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2010.03.10 12:22:00 - [50]
 

Version 2.0.3 has been released.

This version adds a new feature called "Quick briefing" (in lack of a better term Wink) to EWA

Version information
Download

Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2010.03.11 17:46:00 - [51]
 

I've just uploaded a new version (1.0.2) of the Auto data downloader, which fixes an ugly bug with the downloader. Wallet journal & transaction would not correctly be assigned to the right character(s).

I strongly recomment that you don't use prior versions anymore.

Tehg Rhind
Posted - 2010.03.18 02:36:00 - [52]
 

could you be more specific?

In my case I just use EWA to grab the database files and link them to my own database. This is only for a single character. Would this be affecting me? If so how? Also, if I do update will it change/maintain the way the historical data in the EWA database?

Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2010.03.18 11:54:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: Hel O''Ween on 18/03/2010 11:56:40
Originally by: Tehg Rhind

In my case I just use EWA to grab the database files and link them to my own database. This is only for a single character. Would this be affecting me?



No, you're not affected then. The bug only appeared in the Auto downloader. If you never used it, all's fine.

Long story short: The Auto downloader didn't switch accounts/chars properly, when iterating through the database. Therefore it sometimes marked entries with a characterID of 0 and therefore unassociated to any present account/character (=didn't show up anywhere in EWA although present in the DB).

Originally by: Tehg Rhind

Also, if I do update will it change/maintain the way the historical data in the EWA database?


EWA always maintained historical data with any of its updates since its invention. Luckily I had this in mind ever since the first version and took care for that right from the beginning.

If you're going to upgrade from v1 to v2, make sure your'e using the updater on the download page, not the full v2 install and not the EXE only. The updater adds the necessary new components and patches the database accordingly.

Ben Siegel
Posted - 2010.03.29 01:58:00 - [54]
 

First of all, absolutely love the program. Thanks for all your hard work.

I'm sure this is something I'm screwing up, but it looks like not all the corporation wallet journal entries are loading. I set the filter to Corporation Account Withdrawal, Date from 1/1/2010 to 3/28/2010 and it pulls up 15 journal entires (of which there are many more). It has 13 entries in the last 10 days (back to 3/18) and then nothing until 1/17 and 1/22.

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide,
Ben Siegel

arjarj
Posted - 2010.03.29 08:54:00 - [55]
 

auto data keeps updating even when i tell it to pause. can the number of times update happens be limited. once every minute or two seems excessive

Companion Trollin
You are going too fast
Posted - 2010.03.29 11:08:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Ben Siegel
First of all, absolutely love the program. Thanks for all your hard work.

I'm sure this is something I'm screwing up, but it looks like not all the corporation wallet journal entries are loading. I set the filter to Corporation Account Withdrawal, Date from 1/1/2010 to 3/28/2010 and it pulls up 15 journal entires (of which there are many more). It has 13 entries in the last 10 days (back to 3/18) and then nothing until 1/17 and 1/22.

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide,
Ben Siegel

We're sorry to report that the majority of your withdrawals over the last couple of months were for "13 year-old choir boys" and "vulnerable 12 year old girls." As such, law requires us to contact the parents of said minors before we're able to wipe these public records. If we can be of further assistance please let us know.

Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2010.03.29 14:37:00 - [57]
 

@Ben: Try Extras -> Database maintenance -> Compact database. If that doesn't help, please send me an email to Hel.OWeen@eve-biotronics.de. I might need some logs to find out where the problem is.

@arjarj: It doesn't actually update that often. It just checks if an update is necessary. In an ideal world, it would know when to update what, but to get an updater out fast, I took this lazy approach. But reducing the number of checks is on my list.

@Companion: Wink

arjarj
Posted - 2010.03.30 08:24:00 - [58]
 

Edited by: arjarj on 30/03/2010 08:37:31
under wallet/quick briefing the graph of the sales is 2 days behind the graph of the purchases. so i see 2 days with only the purchases graph.

mhe autoupdater should stop checking for new data when i hit the pause button right? it doesnt

Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2010.03.30 11:27:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: arjarj

under wallet/quick briefing the graph of the sales is 2 days behind the graph of the purchases. so i see 2 days with only the purchases graph.



We have two issues here. Not sure which one applies to you:

The currently released version has a bug where the graph could actually "march backwards". Hard to describe for me, if it happened to you, you'll know what I mean. I've fixed that already internally, but haven't published a new version, as I'm in the middle of adding other things (teaser: a bit more graphing in the Quick briefing), which I would like to include in the next update.

You might also experience a behaviour that's by design. The graph shows the last <x> days. If you haven't got any buys within the last two days, well, no graph for this. Whereas the sales will be plotted for those two days.

Quote:

mhe autoupdater should stop checking for new data when i hit the pause button right? it doesnt


Sorry, forgot to answer to that part. Of course, it should stop. I'll look into it.

Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2010.03.30 13:53:00 - [60]
 

A new version (1.0.3) of the auto updater has been release.

This one does now pause if you tell it to do so. Wink

I've also extended the pause between update checks to 15 minutes (default). If you wish to change that period, open EWA's INI (see ? -> Show locations to find where your INI is).

Edit/add the following part of/to the INI:

[EWAAutoData]
; Auto updater options
; Pause at least for <x> minutes before checking for expired caches/API updates
QueryPause=15



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