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Smarcus Smokus
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:14:00 - [361]
 

I am eagerly awaiting the next release.

Thank you very much for all your hard work in making such a great application!

Kethas Protagonist
Protagonist Ventures
Posted - 2011.06.26 23:53:00 - [362]
 

Originally by: Hel O'Ween
My machine goes crazy while I'm docked. And I'm someone who doesn't care about shiny GFX.


This isn't entirely on-topic, but you might not know that you can disable Captain's Quarters and just be presented with a static background image when docked. It's in your options under Display & Graphics -> Graphic Content Settings (the right column) -> Load Station Environment (the last checkbox of the four).

It's my understanding that, as currently planned, CQ will not be optional/toggleable in this fashion, but that's another discussion. For now, you can disable it.

More on topic: just to be clear, the reason EWA isn't currently downloading market information is because of Incarna's API change that you mention in this post, and the next EWA version, which you're waiting to release until CCP releases their DB dump, will fix it, correct? I totally understand the rationale behind waiting, I just want to be sure I understand why EWA isn't currently working for me.

Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2011.06.27 15:31:00 - [363]
 

Originally by: Kethas Protagonist

More on topic: just to be clear, the reason EWA isn't currently downloading market information is because of Incarna's API change that you mention in this post, and the next EWA version, which you're waiting to release until CCP releases their DB dump, will fix it, correct? I totally understand the rationale behind waiting, I just want to be sure I understand why EWA isn't currently working for me.


Exactly. As with the wallet journal in a previous expansion, CCP extended the data type for the ID fields in both wallet transactions and market orders with the release of Incarna.

Unfortunately, this requires a change for EWA in both the app and the DB, otherwise I would have published the update last week already.

If CCP hasn't published a DB dump by tomorrow's DT (which I don't think will be the case), I'll go ahead and release the new update.

tl;dr: You'll get a new release tomorrow, most likely followed by another database update within some days, which then includes the new Incarna items.

Liberty Eternal
Posted - 2011.06.27 15:41:00 - [364]
 

Thank-you Hel O'Ween - it will be great to have EWA back online and functioning again.

Solstice Project
Posted - 2011.06.27 17:28:00 - [365]
 

Edited by: Solstice Project on 27/06/2011 17:38:03
*cough* Win7 32bit here ^^

Hi. :)

Downloaded your program today and wanted to give it a try.

Don't know if it's posted already,
but it seems there's an issue with Admin-rights when trying
to access the mdb-file.

Anyway, i moved the whole directory somewhere else
and applied compatibility-mode (XP SP3) to it,
then it worked without any problem.

Well ... unless i want to do anything,
because CCP broke your program. ^^


Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2011.06.28 09:57:00 - [366]
 

Edited by: Hel O''Ween on 28/06/2011 10:00:32
EWA version 2.0.25, EWAAutoData 1.0.19, DB 22 have been released.

This update implements the API changes introduced with Incarna.

In case you're not aware of it: with Incarna, the Market Order API was changed to only return active orders.

This is very bad in two ways. In general, you can't get any information about expired (read: needs to be restocked) orders any more. Specifically for EWA: I already had a new feature implemented, which would notify you of expired orders. The logic had been implemented, just the screens had to be finished. A couple of days woth of work for the trash bin ...

If you want to raise your concerns re. only active market orders from the API, use this thread and make yourself heard.

As always, see the version history for details.

[Added]
CCP has not published the official Incarna database dump, yet. This means two things:

1) Another EWA database update is due in the hopefully not so far future.
2) Any NEx items you already traded will not show up until that DB update has arrived. However, those records are not lost, they simply don't show up until they can be properly referenced in the database.

Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
Posted - 2011.06.28 11:56:00 - [367]
 

Does it mean that if I need to audit the last 30 days of a trader, I won't be able to see his closed orders any more?

Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2011.06.28 15:16:00 - [368]
 

Edited by: Hel O''Ween on 28/06/2011 15:18:27
Exactly.

Previously the API returned market orders with the following flags:

0 - Active
1 - Closed
2 - Expired/Fulfilled
3 - Cancelled
4 - Pending
5 - Character deleted

(Note: I've personally never have seen other states than Active and Expired/Fulfilled)

Due to "heavy API load", CCP - in all of its wisdom - decided to remove any market order from the API data with a state other than 0 - Active. Go figure ...

You still see the journal/transaction entries for the fulfilled past orders. But building up a market order history out of those is a bit clumsy.

Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
Posted - 2011.06.28 17:29:00 - [369]
 

Originally by: Hel O'Ween
Edited by: Hel O''Ween on 28/06/2011 15:18:27
Exactly.

Previously the API returned market orders with the following flags:

0 - Active
1 - Closed
2 - Expired/Fulfilled
3 - Cancelled
4 - Pending
5 - Character deleted

(Note: I've personally never have seen other states than Active and Expired/Fulfilled)

Due to "heavy API load", CCP - in all of its wisdom - decided to remove any market order from the API data with a state other than 0 - Active. Go figure ...

You still see the journal/transaction entries for the fulfilled past orders. But building up a market order history out of those is a bit clumsy.


Ok, so far I have called idiots 3-4 CCP departments, I'll add a fifth.
How can they be so inconceivably bad ugh

Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2011.06.28 19:25:00 - [370]
 

Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha

Ok, so far I have called idiots 3-4 CCP departments, I'll add a fifth.
How can they be so inconceivably bad ugh


Well, there's hope. From the above linked thread:

Originally by: CCP Elerhino

Edited by: CCP Elerhino on 27/06/2011 10:03:04
We've been looking into the MarketOrder issue but finding a solution that is both simple and optimal has proven difficult. The reason is the nature of market orders, specifically how dates are stored and how they change and how the data can be retrieved in a cost-effective way. Basically us API people are arguing for simple but the DB team understandably wants optimal. Right now it looks like we'll do paging, something like the wallet transaction API, we hope that will solve the problem even though it might cost you guys some extra work. I was hoping for something simpler, e.g. include a week or a month of expired orders in the list but, like I wrote, that solution is not optimal from a DB standpoint. We'll get a solution ready as soon as possible, hopefully within the next few weeks.


Kethas Protagonist
Protagonist Ventures
Posted - 2011.06.28 22:23:00 - [371]
 

Unfortunately I'm still unable to retrieve data more recent than June 18th.

I downloaded the new .exe and replaced the old .exe with it. I didn't update anything else.

? -> About says that my EWA version is 2.0.25 and my DB version is 21.

When I select an account and character and click "Retrieve data from EVE API", it cycles from "Processing wallet transaction #<1 through 2650> on wallet 1000" or something similar, pauses, cycles #2651 through 5120, pauses, cycles 5121 through 7900-something, and then finishes.

However, when I then open my Wallet Transactions or Wallet Journal pages, I'm not shown any transactions more recent than June 18th, the last date I had transaction information for prior to the Incarna patch and subsequent EWA-breakage. Additionally, opening up the Application Log shows a stream of pairs of INSERT INTO (commands? errors?) and Microsoft JET Database Engine overflow errors:

Link 1
Link 2

Finally, EWA does appear to be successfully modifying the .mdb file where my wallet information is stored (namely, C:\ProgramData\EVEWalletAware\DATA\EVEWalletAware.mdb), based on the Last Modified timestamp in Windows Explorer.

If you need more information to troubleshoot or if I can help in any way, please let me know. Your services in providing and updating EWA are greatly appreciated - CCP should be offering to pay you, not requiring the opposite.

(Obviously I'm making so much money that a mere 64-bit OS can't handle it.)

Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2011.06.29 08:23:00 - [372]
 

You must also update the DB.

And those errors happen because of an old database, where EWA tries to store bigger values (byte-wise) than that column in the DB can hold.

Kethas Protagonist
Protagonist Ventures
Posted - 2011.06.29 09:41:00 - [373]
 

Sigh. Duh.

? -> "Check for update" even handles downloading the new DB for you. I assumed it only handled .exe updates. Well, I feel sheepish.

Thanks, it's working perfectly now.

Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2011.07.02 09:30:00 - [374]
 

CCP has finally released the Incarna database dump, so I had a chance to update EWA's DB.

Use EWA's update function to retrieve the new DB (version 23, Incarna).

This is only a database update.

Commander Disarray
Posted - 2011.07.13 15:12:00 - [375]
 

I don't know if this issue came up earlier but I'm not able to retrieve my wallet journal. I can, however, retrieve wallet transactions. I'm trying to look into my profits and I think journal is where to look, correct? I provided my full API key when I installed it this morning but haven't had enough time to play around with it yet.

Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2011.07.13 21:34:00 - [376]
 

There seem to be some issued with the wallet journal API lately. Over in the Tech Lab, a few player mentioned that they can't retrieve journal data correctly. I also had a case these days were instead of getting journal data, an error was returned by the API, with error number 0 (doesn't exist according to the docs ...) and some error message along the lines of me harassing Scotty ...

See Extras -> Cached XML files if there's a wallet journal entry present and if it holds any meaningful data.

That said, wallet journal is what your ingame wallet journal shows you, just like wallet transactions. So for pure trade profits, I'd say the transactions are more appropriate. For a broad overview of profits, Balance sheet -> Wallet transactions seems to a good start.

damnjita
Posted - 2011.07.14 07:26:00 - [377]
 

Edited by: damnjita on 14/07/2011 07:26:44
Originally by: Hel O'Ween
There seem to be some issued with the wallet journal API lately. Over in the Tech Lab, a few player mentioned that they can't retrieve journal data correctly. I also had a case these days were instead of getting journal data, an error was returned by the API, with error number 0 (doesn't exist according to the docs ...) and some error message along the lines of me harassing Scotty ...


<?xml version="1.0"?>, <eveapi version="2">, <currentTime>2011-07-14 07:24:23</currentTime>, <error code="0">General Error: Scotty the docking manager heard you were talking **** about him behind his back and refuses to service your request.</error>, <cachedUntil>2011-07-14 08:24:23</cachedUntil>, </eveapi>,

edit: so the forums censor **** but its ok in the API?

Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2011.07.14 09:48:00 - [378]
 

Originally by: damnjita
Edited by: damnjita on 14/07/2011 07:26:44
Originally by: Hel O'Ween
There seem to be some issued with the wallet journal API lately. Over in the Tech Lab, a few player mentioned that they can't retrieve journal data correctly. I also had a case these days were instead of getting journal data, an error was returned by the API, with error number 0 (doesn't exist according to the docs ...) and some error message along the lines of me harassing Scotty ...


<?xml version="1.0"?>, <eveapi version="2">, <currentTime>2011-07-14 07:24:23</currentTime>, <error code="0">General Error: Scotty the docking manager heard you were talking **** about him behind his back and refuses to service your request.</error>, <cachedUntil>2011-07-14 08:24:23</cachedUntil>, </eveapi>,

edit: so the forums censor **** but its ok in the API?


Yepp, that's the one I mentioned above. Another try a day later downloaded the journal just fine for me.

And please note the <error code="0">. Compare that the the error list that the API is supposed to report: http://wiki.eve-id.net/APIv2_Eve_ErrorList_XML.

Valemora
Posted - 2011.07.15 16:07:00 - [379]
 

Having an issue here. "error accessing database"...Do you wish to browse for EWA's database?" I click yes, and select the database, but it continues to "lose" it or whatever. This is off a new install, windows 7, I saw a mention of it earlier, and tried to fix with no luck.

Valemora
Posted - 2011.07.15 16:14:00 - [380]
 

Originally by: Valemora
Having an issue here. "error accessing database"...Do you wish to browse for EWA's database?" I click yes, and select the database, but it continues to "lose" it or whatever. This is off a new install, windows 7, I saw a mention of it earlier, and tried to fix with no luck.


Would still like a fix, but I installed it on a flash drive and it seems receptive to the idea..go figure ><

Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2011.07.16 06:33:00 - [381]
 

Originally by: Valemora
Having an issue here. "error accessing database"...Do you wish to browse for EWA's database?" I click yes, and select the database, but it continues to "lose" it or whatever. This is off a new install, windows 7, I saw a mention of it earlier, and tried to fix with no luck.


Well, this report at least shows me that my intended fix works. Before that, EWA would just crash.

Now, as for the problem: as mentioned a couple of times, Win 7 does some weird things with paths. If you search your hard drive for EVEWalletAware.mdb, you will find at least two locations. One in ProgramData. That's probably the one you choose. But there should be another one located in Users\AppData. That's the one to use.

damnjita
Posted - 2011.07.22 19:45:00 - [382]
 

Customizable API keys coming Aug 30th after which anyone who changes their API will no longer be able to use the old system.

Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2011.07.22 21:57:00 - [383]
 

Care to share your source? I don't see a new dev blog.

Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro
Posted - 2011.07.22 22:31:00 - [384]
 

Linkage


Note that they will be running both for a while so it won't be such an issue.

Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2011.07.23 10:54:00 - [385]
 

Ah, thanks, Lauren. This escaped me somehow.

Shadow First
Posted - 2011.07.24 07:00:00 - [386]
 

Originally by: Hel O'Ween
There seem to be some issued with the wallet journal API lately. Over in the Tech Lab, a few player mentioned that they can't retrieve journal data correctly. I also had a case these days were instead of getting journal data, an error was returned by the API, with error number 0 (doesn't exist according to the docs ...) and some error message along the lines of me harassing Scotty ...

See Extras -> Cached XML files if there's a wallet journal entry present and if it holds any meaningful data.

That said, wallet journal is what your ingame wallet journal shows you, just like wallet transactions. So for pure trade profits, I'd say the transactions are more appropriate. For a broad overview of profits, Balance sheet -> Wallet transactions seems to a good start.


Same problem here with Scotty since 10/06/2011 but only with my personal data, the corporation one is fine ! The journal is interesting if you have other income like contracts trading wich are not in the transaction report... Is this API bug to be adressed ?

Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2011.07.25 08:59:00 - [387]
 

Originally by: Shadow First
Is this API bug to be adressed ?


You need to ask CCP about this. Numerous forum and bug reports have gone unanswered so far.

Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2011.07.26 10:17:00 - [388]
 

Oh boy, I just took a closer look at the new API key system and realized that it breaks EWA in so many places. Crying or Very sad

While I was one of the first guys to lobby for customizable API keys, the way it's implemented, or rather the way the old system with Limited/Full keys was implemented, hurts me badly. Don't take me wrong, I'm not blaming CCP for this. But from a first glance at it, the amount of work needed to implement this change isn't funny. ugh

Frater Patroabo
Gallente
Offworld Miners and Fabricators Guild
Posted - 2011.08.01 22:38:00 - [389]
 

I'm also having the .mdb file issue as noted above, but was unable to find the file under Users. Reading that there is a major API change in the very near future, I will wait until you have had time to redo EWA and try again. I hope you do, because I'm very keen to use EWA. Thank you for all your work.

Quakar
Posted - 2011.08.02 02:49:00 - [390]
 

Originally by: Frater Patroabo
I'm also having the .mdb file issue as noted above, but was unable to find the file under Users. Reading that there is a major API change in the very near future, I will wait until you have had time to redo EWA and try again. I hope you do, because I'm very keen to use EWA. Thank you for all your work.


Also unable to find the .mdb file any ware under C:\users\[username]\appdata (checking in Local, roaming, ext as well)


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