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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.03.24 22:01:00 - [241]
 

Originally by: Hous BinPharteen
So if I choose say Gallente this time and get a faction boost. I can pick Gallente again in 90 days and get another faction boost? Its not a one time only for each faction?


Yes, you can redo the SoE arc every 90 days for Gallente and still receive Faction standing increase each time.

DMC

Hous BinPharteen
Caldari
Posted - 2011.03.24 23:11:00 - [242]
 

Originally by: DeMichael Crimson
Originally by: Hous BinPharteen
So if I choose say Gallente this time and get a faction boost. I can pick Gallente again in 90 days and get another faction boost? Its not a one time only for each faction?


Yes, you can redo the SoE arc every 90 days for Gallente and still receive Faction standing increase each time.

DMC


Thanks

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.03.25 11:19:00 - [243]
 

You're welcome and good luck to you.

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Qalix
Posted - 2011.03.25 14:39:00 - [244]
 

Great info! Forgive me if this is answered somewhere in the many pages of this thread: is it possible to have 8+ to all 4 empire factions? Looking at the epic arc information, it seems possible, though it would take a long time. Is it possible to do some other way as well?

SencneS
Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks
Posted - 2011.03.25 20:03:00 - [245]
 

According to the math you would be able to get +8 on all factions. Assuming the only available formula's are accurate enough to be functional.

According to the sheet I made here - It would take between 350 and 450 Storyline missions to obtain an average of 8+ standings in all four factions.

This is assuming you don't have any social skills, and in those Storyline missions you do not kill any "enemy" faction navy ships. Which would be difficult to do, considering the number of faction missions I've run, a good number of them is "Kill this guy" who happens to be an enemy faction pilot.




DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.03.25 23:40:00 - [246]
 

Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 25/03/2011 23:46:14

I actually have no idea exactly how high the Faction standings will be after completing all of the Event Agent missions listed in this 'Plan'. Add in the Epic Arcs which can be completed every 3 months, players should be able to easily gain very high positive Faction standings.

After I finish completing the level 4 Cosmos Agent missions, the only missions I'll probably be doing will be the Epic Arcs. I'll use the R&D agent missions along with the SoE level 1 Epic Arc to help equal out any lop sided standings. Eventually I see no problem at all in getting close to max standing with all Empire Factions. Since I mainly like to do exploration, this will work great.

For those doing regular missions, decline all Anti-Empire Faction encounter missions and bounce between the Factions after each set of 16 regular missions + storyline and continue using the Epic Arcs to keep increasing the Faction standings. The trick with doing the regular missions + storyline is you'll have to continually keep watch on the standings and bounce back and forth between the Factions whenever needed.

As for the type of encounter missions (Anti-Empire verses Anti-Pirate) being offered by the agents, I've done missions for all agent divisions and corporations including Command division agents in Military Corporations. I rarely ever get offered any Anti-Empire Faction encounter missions and almost always get offered Anti-Pirate Faction encounter missions along with a few Rogue Drone encounters. I believe the negative Faction standings as well as the type of missions being accepted and completed play a major role in this.

I wish you all the best of luck and as usual, I'll continue to post my progress and updated statistics while working this 'Plan'. My latest update can be viewed here.

DMC

Titus Phook
Posted - 2011.03.29 23:17:00 - [247]
 

Edited by: Titus Phook on 29/03/2011 23:17:35
hmmm I'm now off to try and repair my mains Amarr standings.

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.03.30 11:09:00 - [248]
 

This 'Plan' should help you as much as it's helped me. I wish you lot's of luck.

Electra Magnetic
Posted - 2011.03.31 16:09:00 - [249]
 

You should consider changing the circle and data center agents links to these:

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Data_Centers
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Circle_Agents

They are much more complete and easier to follow.

Great guide

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.04.01 05:47:00 - [250]
 

Originally by: Electra Magnetic
You should consider changing the circle and data center agents links to these:

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Data_Centers
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Circle_Agents

They are much more complete and easier to follow.

Great guide


Thanks. Glad you like the 'Plan'.

As for the links, I had changed those a long time ago back when I created the Event_Agents page.

If you look down at the bottom of those Evelopedia pages, you'll see my name listed on most of them.

Frozen Anya
Posted - 2011.04.02 03:21:00 - [251]
 

How do corporate standings suffer?

For example.. my Ishukone corp standings are 2.75 right now... If I start going and working for Duvolle Labs to spur on my Gallente standings, will my Ishukone fall if I reject anti-empire missions?

Ifly Uwalk
Caldari
Concentrated Evil
Posted - 2011.04.02 06:03:00 - [252]
 

Originally by: Frozen Anya
...will my Ishukone fall if I reject anti-empire missions?

No.

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.04.02 11:19:00 - [253]
 

Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 02/04/2011 11:37:58

Ifly Uwalk is correct in saying no.



However, there is a couple ways to cause Corporation standings to fall.

1) Fail or quit a mission that's been accepted.

2) Attack the corporation's member ships or structures.

Also remember that you can decline a mission offer once every 4 hours per-agent without incurring any standing loss with Agent.

Adophnil
Amarr
Dark Reality Unified
INVICTUS ALLIANCE
Posted - 2011.04.05 03:15:00 - [254]
 

DeMichael Crimson deserves a bump and another round of compliments for his contribution to the Eve community in a definitive way to fix your standings. I utilized the 'Plan' in order to have a hauling alt with positive Empire standings to all factions, even after I had done some damage to these standings via getting R&D agents.

His bio has good advice for new players in game, and he's an all around friendly and helpful guy.

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.04.05 22:40:00 - [255]
 

Adophnil, thank you very much. I'm glad the 'Plan' helped you.

Very Happy

I hope everyone has as much success as I've had working this 'Plan'.

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DMC

Ifly Uwalk
Caldari
Concentrated Evil
Posted - 2011.04.06 11:48:00 - [256]
 

Bump.

Seeing as to how this thread is the most important one in this subforum I want to make sure it's on the front page when these forums get shut down.

For great justice.

DMC set us up the Faction Standing Repair Plan.

All your faction standings are belong to us. And DMC.

Petrified
At River's Edge
Posted - 2011.04.07 04:32:00 - [257]
 

First off: good guide, I was able to get my standings up high enough to anchor a POS in .5 Caldari space.

I just noticed an issue over this past weekend: my standings for the Caldari dropped from just over 5.0 to 4.65 due to starting to run the Career agent missions for the Gallente. None of them involved shooting at Caldari, and, per the guide, running the missions should not effect other standings. I checked the transactions for the standing decrease and it was all attributed to missions I ran over the weekend and were marked for helping an enemy or harming an ally of the Caldari state.

Did I miss something or did a recent update fix/break this?

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.04.07 14:14:00 - [258]
 

Ifly Uwalk, thank you very much. Feel free to 'Bump' the 'Plan' anytime.

Very Happy


Originally by: Petrified
First off: good guide, I was able to get my standings up high enough to anchor a POS in .5 Caldari space.

I just noticed an issue over this past weekend: my standings for the Caldari dropped from just over 5.0 to 4.65 due to starting to run the Career agent missions for the Gallente. None of them involved shooting at Caldari, and, per the guide, running the missions should not effect other standings. I checked the transactions for the standing decrease and it was all attributed to missions I ran over the weekend and were marked for helping an enemy or harming an ally of the Caldari state.

Did I miss something or did a recent update fix/break this?


Petrified, I'm glad the 'Plan' helped you to anchor a POS in high security. You're the first player to say that.

Smile

However, I guess you missed the part about how the standings will do a 'Sea-Saw' while working this 'Plan'. That is the reason for keeping an eye on the standings and doing the 'Bounce' action to the other Factions when needed.

Completing missions for the Event Agents listed in this 'Plan' will give derived standings, both positive and negative, towards the other Factions. Those missions can only be completed once in the life of the Character.

The only exception is the Epic Arcs. Those only give Faction standing increase to the specific Faction and NO derived standings towards the other Factions. They can be redone every 3 months for Faction standing increase.

I hope this clears things up for you and I wish you continued success.

DMC

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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.04.10 03:28:00 - [259]
 

Hello Eve,

Just wanted to let everyone know that the first four posts of this thread, aka the 'Plan', has been transfered over to the new Forums in the Missions and Complexes section with the original title 'Faction Standing Repair Plan'.

I will continue to update the new thread with my progress and stats while working the 'Plan' as well as update the URL links and info whenever needed. I'll also be answering all questions posted by players. Since there's a lot of valuable information contained in this old thread resulting from previous questions and answers, I've included a link to this old thread in the new Forum thread.

I wish you all the very best of luck and much success.

DMC

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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.04.12 10:56:00 - [260]
 

Seems CCP has another patch ready for Eve players again. Hopefully it'll include a fix for the new Forums.

If it does and the new Forums are clean with no threads, I'll be sure to once again transfer the original plan over to it. If not, then I'll see you all here again.

Fly smart and stay safe.

DMC

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Frozen Anya
Posted - 2011.04.12 12:42:00 - [261]
 

When you guys talk about a standings % boost.. how does that change a number? Assuming all my social skills are at 5..

if I had a 1.0 caldari standing and did the SOE epic arc and selected caldari, how would it change?

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.04.12 21:53:00 - [262]
 

Good question. These links do an excellent job of explaining how it works.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Standing

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Mission_guide#Modifying_Standings

Good luck on the math.

DMC

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Aislynn McAllister
Posted - 2011.04.13 15:02:00 - [263]
 

Plan worked really well for me. Thanks for taking the time to write it up.

I was shoot on sight with the Federation and through Minmatar derived standing I was able to fix the problem in very little time.

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.04.13 22:54:00 - [264]
 

Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 13/04/2011 22:57:32

Aislynn McAllister, thank you very much.

Very Happy

It's always good to hear from players who have repaired negative Faction standings quickly due to working this 'Plan'.

DMC

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Nerror theTerror
Posted - 2011.04.13 22:56:00 - [265]
 

Just a little tip when doing the mission-chain Shaman Secrets from Pinala Adala, which is a follow-up from the first Graduation Certificate Datacenter missions:

In step 4 you fly to Eram IV - Moon 2 to talk to Hlebnar Tonari. When you read the Wiki-entry you can see you have two options, either take the first mission he offers (Snatching the Shaman) or decline it and get the second mission he offers (The Shaman's Will). What I found out was that if I decline the first mission offer and complete The Shaman's Will instead, he offers the first mission again. This means I essentially got double standing bonuses and a duplicate of the mission objective item. I didn't test if I could have gotten both missions if I accepted the first mission right away.

With all social skills at 5 i got the following standing gains:

The Shaman's Will: 1.25% Minmatar faction, 4.1667% Vherokior Tribe.
Snatching the Shaman: 1.25% Minmatar faction, 4.1667% Vherokior Tribe.

The last step of the Shaman's Secrets mission chain only gives 0.1907% Minmatar gain (and some Sebiestor Tribe standing)

I still have to do the Datacenter missions from the 3 other empire factions, but will check for the same thing there.

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.04.13 23:44:00 - [266]
 

Nerror theTerror, thank you very much for the tip about the 'Shaman Secrets' cert mission series for Minmatar. I knew there was a second Event Agent introduced during the mission series. What I didn't know about was the second 'side' mission available from that Agent.

Shocked

When I did the cert mission series, I accepted and completed the first mission offer 'Snatching the Shaman' and didn't receive an offer for the second side mission 'The Shaman Will'. So congratulations to you. It would be good to know if the other Faction's cert mission series also have a second side mission offer available from the second Event Agent.

Once again, thank you very much. When you do check out the other Faction's cert missions, please post your findings asap and I'll update the 'Plan' with this new information.

DMC

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Nerror theTerror
Posted - 2011.04.14 19:17:00 - [267]
 

Edited by: Nerror theTerror on 14/04/2011 19:19:16
Edited by: Nerror theTerror on 14/04/2011 19:17:42
The Gallente datacenter mission-chain was completely straight-forward. Part 3 of Beizan Picholen leads to the side mission-chain The Plot Thickens, but there are no options there. I tried declining it first, but just got the same mission offer again.

With all social skills at 5 I got:

The Plot Thickens: 0.1607% Gallente faction.
Beizan Picholen: 0.3888% Gallente faction.



Nerror theTerror
Posted - 2011.04.14 21:36:00 - [268]
 

The Amarr datacenter mission-chain was also straight-forward. Part 4 of Quelling the Insurgency leads to the side mission-chain Choonka's Request. I declined, but just got the same mission offer again. It's a good idea to bookmark Choonka's location btw.

With all social skills at 5 I got:

Choonka's Request: 0.3109% Amarr faction.
Quelling the Insurgency: 1.25% Amarr faction.





Casanunda
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.04.15 00:10:00 - [269]
 

Thanks for this guide, I didn't realise you could run the SOE arc more than once, I've redone it to boost my abysmal Gallente standings to a positive state (diplomacy iv ftw here) and run the first of the Gallente cosmos missions. I've just got to grind for the storyline missions now so I can do the next cosmos agent.

Thanks for the info, most handy.

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.04.15 11:12:00 - [270]
 

Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 15/04/2011 11:12:30

Nerror theTerror, thanks for the updates. It's starting to look like Minmatar is the only Faction with a 2nd side mission offer for a bit more standing increase. Looking forward to your report on Caldari.


Originally by: Casanunda
Thanks for this guide, I didn't realise you could run the SOE arc more than once, I've redone it to boost my abysmal Gallente standings to a positive state (diplomacy iv ftw here) and run the first of the Gallente cosmos missions. I've just got to grind for the storyline missions now so I can do the next cosmos agent.

Thanks for the info, most handy.


Casanunda, you're welcome. Glad to hear this 'Plan' is helping you. There are other Event Agents listed that will help increase Gallente Faction standing besides Cosmos, such as the Tutorial, Career and Circle Agents. Also the Data Center 'Cert' and tag missions. Grinding regular missions for storylines to advance up to next level of Cosmos will work but it takes a while longer than completing the Event Agent missions. Remember, you can still gain Gallente Faction standing from completing the Minmatar Event Agent missions.

Anyway, good luck and much success to you.

DMC

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