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Jho Ran
Posted - 2010.09.09 16:22:00 - [121]
 

Edited by: Jho Ran on 09/09/2010 16:22:19
Started on this plan a while ago (and stopped a while ago as well) but never got around to posting a thanks :) Haven't been actively playing lately due to RL constraints.

Anyway, I started with an umodified:

Gallente: 1,39
Caldari: 0,17
Amarr: -0,13
Minmatar: -0,30

I started with Social 4, but got to 5 fairly early on. After doing the Tutorial Agents, Career Agents, Circle Agents, L1 Datacenter missions (all the graduation + copper tags and the minmatar bronze tags), most L1 Cosmos missions (4 Caldari, 1 Minmatar and 1 Gallente), the L1 SoE Epic Arc, and a few regular storyline missions along the way, I got to an unmodified

Gallente: 2,83
Minmatar: 2,05
Caldari: 2,20
Amarr: 2,21

My guy was/is a scientist primarily, so could only handle L1 combat missions, although I am working on changing that atm.

The Pirate Epic arcs look interesting, and once I get some combat skills and some time to play again, I would be interested in seeing what sort of faction gains and losses they bring to the table. Each arc gives a 30% standing increase, but the losses aren't mentioned with specific numbers:
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=713

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2010.09.10 02:04:00 - [122]
 

Congratulations, always good to hear that the 'Plan' is helping players. Smile

The Pirate Epic Arcs are a bit different now from what was presented in that DEV BLOG. I believe there's only 3 starting agents instead of 4. Now about the amount of Faction standing received as well as any derived standings, I'll have to check on that. Maybe someone who has completed the lv 3 Pirate Arcs can verify?

Anyway, thanks for posting and I hope you have continued good luck.

-----------------

On a side note I'm currently doing a round of missions (16) for a lv 1 Agent in a corp for my highest Faction standing. I plan on testing the 'Last Resort' option listed in the 'Plan' just to be sure that it is still good. I'll be sure to let everyone know about the results.

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2010.09.10 10:55:00 - [123]
 

Originally by: Kary Tamona
Edited by: Kary Tamona on 06/09/2010 13:23:14
Edited by: Kary Tamona on 06/09/2010 11:03:44
Edited by: Kary Tamona on 06/09/2010 10:00:14
Originally by: DeMichael Crimson

[...]

The 'Last Resort' option is to purposely fail storyline missions for your friendly Factions. This results in a negative hit to friendly Corp/Faction standing while giving positive standing to unfriendly Factions.


Hi Crimson, thanks for the guide, really helpful stuff.

I have a question though. I recall that some time ago the failing of missions to gain standings with an "enemy" faction was corrected and that nowadays failing a mission will NOT give you any derived standing increase. I got no link to this one, and I could be mistaken. Am I?

It would be great if you or someone else could clarify this point. Thanks in advance.


Well, sad to say this but I think you're right. Crying or Very sad

I tested it and it seems that only the allied (friendly) Factions are affected by the failure of a storyline mission. I did level 1 missions for Brutor tribe corp and received a storyline offer which I accepted and then quit the mission. I incurred negative standings hit, twice, with each of the allied (friendly) Factions and had no derived standings with any of the enemy Factions.

Now maybe the reason it didn't work is because I have high positive standings with all of the Empire Factions? The only negative Faction standings I have are with the Pirate Factions.

I'm still not sure but I'll remove the 'Last Resort' option from the 'Faction Standing Repair Plan' just to be safe. I don't want any players to end up having worse standings than when they started working the 'Plan'.

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2010.09.12 02:16:00 - [124]
 

UPDATE:
I've done a lot of mission grinding for various Corporations and now have access to all Empire Factions Level 4 Epic Arcs. I've also completed the 2 'special' Concord Agent missions for Security Status increase. Not to mention I also checked the 'Last Resort' option and found that it is no longer viable and have deleted it from the 'Plan'. While doing that my standings have done a lot of 'See-saw' action which was expected.

Current Statistics:

Empire Faction Standings:
Minmatar Republic +5.52
Caldari State +5.37
The Interbus +4.98
Amarr Empire +4.41
Khanid Kingdom +4.37
Gallente Federation +4.28
Ammatar Mandate +3.94
Concord Assembly +2.56

Social Skills:
Social lv 5
Connections lv 5
Fast Talk lv 5
Diplomacy lv 4
Negotiation lv 4

Security Status:
+5.85

Data Center Tags completed:
Minmatar = Angel Crystal and lower - need Gold
Gallente = Serpentis Diamond and lower - need Brass and Gold
Caldari = Guristas Crystal and lower - need Brass
Amarr = Blood Crystal and lower - need Gold
Ammatar = Sansha Crystal and lower - need Gold

Epic Arcs Completed:
Level 1 Sisters Of Eve = 2x (1x Minmatar, 1x Amarr)
Level 4 Amarr = Started
Level 4 Caldari = Started
Level 4 Gallente = Started
Level 4 Minmatar = Started

Tutorial, Career, Circle Agents Completed:
All Empire Factions

Cosmos Agents Completed:
All Empire Factions = level 3 and lower

Special Agents Completed (Security Status):
Christer Fuglesang = Concord
Jeremy Tacs = Concord

How_to_get_above_5.0_Security_Status

All that's left now is to complete the level 4 COSMOS Agent missions and the level 4 Epic Arcs as well as a few more Data Center Tag missions. Right now I plan on grinding missions for some R&D Corporations to gain access to the highest level R&D Agent for each Faction. I'll use those to help balance lop sided Faction Standings. The Epic Arcs will be used to continue gaining large Faction Standing increase after I've completed the level 4 COSMOS Agent missions.

I'll continue posting the results incurred from working this 'Plan'.

DMC

Jastra
Gallente
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
Posted - 2010.09.12 09:39:00 - [125]
 

I would just like to say a big thank you for the updates, this is a most useful post

Cheers

Jas.

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2010.09.12 11:08:00 - [126]
 

Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 12/09/2010 11:10:01


You're welcome, I'm glad to hear that it's helping players. Cool


Aelana Anais
Gallente
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
Posted - 2010.09.13 01:06:00 - [127]
 

Edited by: Aelana Anais on 13/09/2010 01:07:28
Edited by: Aelana Anais on 13/09/2010 01:06:28
Originally by: DeMichael Crimson
Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 04/09/2010 23:07:27

Level 4 Epic Arc:

Need +6.80 Corporation or Faction standing only with the starting Agent (1st one) in the arc. Will receive +12.75% Faction standing increase at the end of the arc.

All Epic Arcs can be completed every 3 months for Faction Standing increase. Each mission in the arcs will give standings with the Agents Corporation. No derived standings, positive or negative, are received from the Epic Arcs.




While mostly true, the above is /slightly/ false. I have completed all four of the major faction arcs twice, and one mission in the Minmatar arc (where you are shooting Ammatar Navy ships - the mission name is 'Church of the Obsidian') actually causes a small amount of Amarr standing loss (2 instances of -0.06%). This was enough to make me unable to re-run the Amarr epic arc without using a tutorial mission :). I petitioned and was told this was the intended behavior, even though it does seem strange that you loose Amarr standing instead of Ammatar.

These are ship kill losses so no other derived losses from them so shouldn't affect Caldari standing.

Also if you are looking for good L4 epic arc guides look here: http://lorebook.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1:cosmos-epicarc-guides&catid=1:cosmos-epicarc-guides&Itemid=2

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2010.09.13 03:46:00 - [128]
 

Well, sorry to hear that you experienced some standing loss. The level 4 epic arcs are documented by DEV Blogs to not incur any derived standings, either positive or negative. Since you've already completed the other level 4 Epic Arcs and didn't incur any derived standings except on the Minmatar Epic Arc, that sounds like a bug and should be reported and the petition should be honored.

I think you should search through all the DEV Blogs and Patch Notes as well as the Forums for proof. I started to search for proof but I'm missing out on valuable time to play the game.

As for the GM response to your petition, I've found that most of them use that excuse just to quickly close out the petition. I had a regular GM try that with me so I searched and found the proof proving that my petition was valid. I politely insisted that a Senior GM take over and look into the situation. Guess what? After a few days the petition was answered by a Senior GM who honored my request in the petition with an apology for any inconvenience as well as an offer to look into any other issues that I might have.

Thanks for the link to Jowen Datloran's Lorebook but I already have that listed in the 'Plan'.

Aelana Anais
Gallente
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
Posted - 2010.09.13 12:52:00 - [129]
 

Originally by: DeMichael Crimson
Well, sorry to hear that you experienced some standing loss. The level 4 epic arcs are documented by DEV Blogs to not incur any derived standings, either positive or negative. Since you've already completed the other level 4 Epic Arcs and didn't incur any derived standings except on the Minmatar Epic Arc, that sounds like a bug and should be reported and the petition should be honored.

I think you should search through all the DEV Blogs and Patch Notes as well as the Forums for proof. I started to search for proof but I'm missing out on valuable time to play the game.

As for the GM response to your petition, I've found that most of them use that excuse just to quickly close out the petition. I had a regular GM try that with me so I searched and found the proof proving that my petition was valid. I politely insisted that a Senior GM take over and look into the situation. Guess what? After a few days the petition was answered by a Senior GM who honored my request in the petition with an apology for any inconvenience as well as an offer to look into any other issues that I might have.

Thanks for the link to Jowen Datloran's Lorebook but I already have that listed in the 'Plan'.


I can't believe I missed you already had that link in your plan... fail == me ;)

As for the epic arc, the actual statement (I did a lot of searching for this) was only by CCP Big Dumb Object here:
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1146426/page/1#3

And the statement says only that "Actual standing loss for fighting faction ships will be infrequent. Most missions have been designed to override the usual NPC-kill penalties.

Note as the GM that responded to my petition pointed out infrequent != never. It seems odd that with two run-throughs on all of them this was the only mission with standing loss, but hey I am not a GM ;) Heck that it is even the /wrong/ standing for the rats in question, well that's just 'as intended'...

As for escalating, I will let someone else do it since I am far past that point now, the petition has been closed for a few weeks and banging heads with a GM puts me in a foul mood. Just posting to let folks know that in that mission there is standing loss and as quoted by GM OCELOT 'We have checked the mission information and the NPC's in the mission locate are flagged towards Amarr Empire which is why you took Amarr empire standing losses and not Ammatar. This mission is working as intended at this time.'

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2010.09.13 14:43:00 - [130]
 

Ahh, maybe the name of that Dev says it all, Laughing

Anyway, I see that was Posted - 2009.08.12 18:39:00

I found this one Posted - 2010.07.13 13:12:00
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1352802#3

Maybe Ceti Lomax knows which patch has that info?

Bottom line: If the Minmatar Level 4 Epic Arc is now the only one that incurs derived Faction standings compared to the other Epic Arcs, then that's a clear case of being unbalanced. It could even be viewed as an exploit, even though I'm sure nobody would want to exploit that.

Thanks for the information.

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2010.09.14 05:09:00 - [131]
 

I've edited the 'Plan' now to include this information:

Epic Arcs can be completed every 3 months for a large Faction Standing boost with very little to no derived standings towards other Factions.

Sceta
Posted - 2010.09.15 09:18:00 - [132]
 

Got a question for you. I have flown alot of caldari missions and with dip 4 I got a -1,45 standing with gallante.

I want to increase my gallante standing to about -0,5 or so without having my caldari standing of 6.14 by much. Do you advice me to go for the sisters of eve approach or the tutorial mission approach?

I need my caldari standing to become arround 7 without getting my gallante standing to below -2. Diplomacy lvl 5 is for now out of the question. Thanks for the answer :)

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2010.09.15 10:03:00 - [133]
 

If you can safely travel in all Empire Factions space, then the SoE Arc would probably be better since it doesn't incur any derived standings for completing it and it gives +8.75% increase to the Faction you choose at the end.

As for the other Agent types listed in the 'Plan', (Tutorial, Career, Data Center, etc), it's the usual 'Tug of War' standings action (1 step forward, 1/2 step back) that you get from completing regular storyline missions. What makes the 'Plan' work is that every Agent in the 'Plan' gives an important storyline mission for Faction Standing increase which is the reason for the 'Bounce' action.

Maybe complete the SoE Epic Arc and the level 4 Epic Arc for your Faction and just use the low level 'Plan' Agents (Tutorial, Circle, etc) to keep the unfriendly Factions from going bad. The Tutorial and other low level Agent missions can be completed quickly.

I hope this helps.

Agondray
Gallente
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
Posted - 2010.09.15 21:55:00 - [134]
 

ccp needs to go back to allowing SOE to boost all empire factions if not all factions period as SOE is highly respected by ALL FACTIONS, empire and pirate.

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2010.09.16 01:49:00 - [135]
 

Would be nice if that happened.

LOL CYBERKNIGHTS
Posted - 2010.09.18 17:58:00 - [136]
 

bump cos im doin' it now =P

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2010.09.19 02:01:00 - [137]
 

Thanks, I hope everything works out good for you.

Apotamkin
Posted - 2010.09.24 15:40:00 - [138]
 

The Pirate Epic Arcs

http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=713

Is is possible to have good standings with all 4 empire factions AND all the pirate factions as well? Confused

I'd like to keep my standings positive but I don't know that's a lot of mind numbing boring sitting in a chair for weeks/months mission grinding. Obviously yeah it's just be easier to pick a side and forget standings with everyone else but not being able to enter somewhere like Jita would be a pain. Can that happen?

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2010.09.24 23:47:00 - [139]
 

Originally by: Apotamkin
The Pirate Epic Arcs

http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=713

Is is possible to have good standings with all 4 empire factions AND all the pirate factions as well? Confused

I'd like to keep my standings positive but I don't know that's a lot of mind numbing boring sitting in a chair for weeks/months mission grinding. Obviously yeah it's just be easier to pick a side and forget standings with everyone else but not being able to enter somewhere like Jita would be a pain. Can that happen?


Well, I don't think you can have positive standings with everybody. This 'Plan' will enable all Empire Factions to be positive, however the Pirate Factions will be negative.

The Pirate Epic Arcs can be accessed via an Empire Faction Agent. After a while it might be possible to get those to a positive level. Maybe if you declined all encounter missions and only did courier missions you might be able to have most of them at a positive level.

As for you referring to this 'Plan' as "a lot of mind numbing boring sitting in a chair for weeks/months mission grinding", well that's your opinion.

This 'Plan' is the fastest way to gain standing since all of the agents listed in it give Faction Standing increase. Feel free to find another way to increase Faction Standings faster. If you do, I'd love to hear it.

Jho Ran
Posted - 2010.09.26 17:55:00 - [140]
 

It would be really nice to know if anyone has tried to combine empire and at least one or more pirate standings in a workable mix, or if it's just impossible in the long run.

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2010.09.27 03:52:00 - [141]
 

Originally by: DeMichael Crimson
Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 24/08/2010 22:18:47


Originally by: Lagruna Zegata
Great guide, DeMichael. Once you feel like everything is finished and polished it could make a good addition to the EVElopedia.

The guide is very comprehensive for Empire, and the only exotic thing that might be added is more info on working for the different pirate factions (both regular missions & storylines...and noting how killing belt rats only lowers standings with individual NPC pirate corps, not factions.) It would also be interesting to see what happens there with CONCORD Assembly faction, etc.

Thanks for taking my in-game questions. Smile

~LZ


LZ, thank you very much Cool

I hope you got the answers you were looking for.

Looks like I'll have to do a bit of research and add a section about the Pirate NPC Factions. I do know that CCP has made it easy for players to improve Pirate Faction Standings with the Pirate Faction Epic Arcs. Only need +4.80 Corporation or Faction Standing with one of the 3 starting agents (1 Pirate, 2 Empire). Then there's also COSMOS Pirate Agents, the skill 'Criminal Connections' and of course all the regular Agents. Since all Agents level 1 quality 0 and lower are available to everyone, I'm sure it shouldn't be too hard to build up positive standings with the NPC Pirate Factions.

Now the major question I have:

Does anyone have Personal Security Status above -2.00 (Travel), Faction Standings above -5.00 (Travel) or -2.00 (Access) with all or most of the Empire Factions and has very high positive Pirate Faction Standings?

I would very much like to talk with them and find out how they accomplished it and more on how they maintain those standings.


Yeah, this was posted a while back and the question still remains unanswered.


Jho Ran
Posted - 2010.09.29 04:16:00 - [142]
 

Edited by: Jho Ran on 29/09/2010 04:17:10
I found some info info on how it's supposed to work with the pirate epic arc standings, but don't know if they've fixed any bugs.

So if/when it works as it should, I guess it should be possible to raise those pirate faction standings every 3 months by large amounts, without any negative hits.


Below are som CCP Dropbear quotes:

Source.
Quote:
After some discussion, we've decided to use these pirate arcs additionally as a "redemption" mechanic. By completing the arc, you will gain 30% faction standing (base, that is, it's possible to raise it to 37.5% through Social V).

This standings gain is large enough to raise someone with -10 faction standing to -2.5 (0.0 with Diplomacy V) and will allow them to run missions for that faction.

We won't be giving out corporation standing, since that reward would be too easily passed around by people fleeting up and sharing the rewards. In fact, that same mechanic ensures that people with -10 corporation standing always have a way to redeem themselves, so adding the corporation standings gain didn't need to happen. The faction gain is never passed around fleets though, of course, which was always the problem with pirate faction standings.

This change makes it possible to redeem yourself with every pirate faction either directly, or indirectly by working for a sister faction with good derived standings. In this first release, that means if you want to fix your Serpentis standings, you still can through the Angel Cartel, but it will naturally be a slower process. In future releases as more pirate epic arcs hit TQ, we'll be adding that same faction reward to those.


Source.
Quote:
Moar replies...

Quote:
stuff about "Is +30% enough? I have X standings, will I be able to run pirate missions afterwards?




It's not only enough, it's more than enough. With Diplomacy V and Social V, you can actually take your faction standings from pure -10.00 to 0.00, enough to access decent Level I agents. Remember that the reward is a base of 30%, so it can be raised to 37.5% faction standing through Social V. I've tested and seen it myself. I could tell it was true by the pixels. The mighty CCP Dropbear went from -10.00 to neutral (after some refitting of rails and iridium).

As for corporation standings...if you've tanked them too, you'll have to find someone willing to help vouch for your, dare I say, traitorous self and dig you out of that hole. I'm talking about shared fleet standings from missions here, by the way. That same mechanic was the reason you don't get similarly large corporation standing as a reward.

Quote:
First, you will not be able to enter some of the deadspace pockets in the arc with your Battleship. (Though you can with your Interceptor.)

Does this ship restriction include t3 ships ? Or can I do the missions with a T3 cruiser as well ? (Asking since interceptors aren't really bubble-proof).




Most if not all missions are restricted to frigate-class ships only. I'm sure you can agree that if it were possible to bring overwhelming firepower, 99.99% of EVE players would. YARRRR!!

This limitation helped us balance the arc a lot more, and provide something we hope will be a rewarding challenge.

Quote:
This description of the angel missions sound like you will mostly be killing other pirates with just a little bit of shooting empire navys. Is this correct?

And can someone point me to the derived standing loss equations so I can figure out how much my State standing will suffer from a 30% boost to Angels?




Yes, that mostly correct regarding the Angel arc. There are no derived standings losses, by the way. More details here.

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2010.09.29 11:07:00 - [143]
 

Nice Info, thanks. Cool

Jho Ran
Posted - 2010.09.30 06:06:00 - [144]
 

Edited by: Jho Ran on 30/09/2010 06:29:33
Edited by: Jho Ran on 30/09/2010 06:26:54
Edited by: Jho Ran on 30/09/2010 06:24:40
Trying to wrap my sleepy head around something....

I get that at around 3.33 unmodified standings with all 4 empires a sort of equilibrium is reached when it comes to the storyline missions and others which give derived negative standings as well.

Originally by: Jagga Spikes
example 2:
faction A 3.33
faction B 3.33

same 10% increase to faction A will be +0.67 increase to effective standing. loss of 5% to faction B will be -0.67 reduction. as Fairhand said, "step forward gets smaller and any steps back get bigger".


But, the Social skill doesn't affect that at all right? It just makes the gains and losses bigger? Or is the 25% bonus from Social V added after the derived standings are calculated?

The storyline missions give nice corp standing bumps as well, so for that they are still usefull I guess, but other than that, there's little point in doing them after 3.33 unmodified it seems. In other words, it's really up to the epic arc faction standing gains from then on.

Also, if the derived standing modifiers here are correct (-5.000 between Amarr and Minmatar) then why did I get a +2.004% increase with Minmatar and -1.2325% with Amarr after a minmatar storyline mission? Maybe it'll all make sense after I sleep, but answers are welcome never the less. :)

Edit: Or is it that 25% from Social 5 that messes things up? Add 25% to the -5.00 standing modifier (-6,25) and the numbers kinda add up. If that's the case Social 5 might increase individual standings faster, but also penalises the negative standing modifiers. Instead of hitting the equilibrium at 3.33 unmodified standing with Social 0 between Amaar and Minmatar, it's only around 2,33 with Social 5. I hope I am wrong and just too sleepy for this. :p

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2010.09.30 11:58:00 - [145]
 

Ahh, that standing link from New-Eden is incorrect. This Link has been updated with the most current info with the standing changes recently made in Eve which is listed in the 'Plan'.

As for the amount received, my Empire Faction standings are currently well over +4.00 and I still get large standing boost from storyline missions with Social, Connections and Negotiation skills at lv 5. Probably will continue to do so until all Empire Factions are around +6.00.

I still have all Empire Factions level 4 Cosmos Agent missions left to complete along with all of the lv 4 Epic Arcs. Not to mention I also have a few Data Center Tag missions left to complete. I'll probably complete the Epic Arcs first to gain standing for access to the level 4 Cosmos Agent missions. Hopefully by the time I complete all those cosmos missions, I'll be able to do the Epic Arcs again.

Jho Ran
Posted - 2010.09.30 18:29:00 - [146]
 

Edited by: Jho Ran on 30/09/2010 20:08:29
But that link says the same thing with regards to Amarr and Minmatar modifiers (-5.000) and I am still confused about the whole "+2.0% gain for minmatar gives -1.2% loss with amarr" thing.

Could the diplomacy skill affect this somehow? I only have that to lvl 2.

Edit: I guess I'll raise diplomacy to 4 and see if the numbers change. I'll hold off on the storyline missions until then.

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2010.09.30 23:22:00 - [147]
 

Originally by: Jho Ran
Edited by: Jho Ran on 30/09/2010 20:08:29
But that link says the same thing with regards to Amarr and Minmatar modifiers (-5.000) and I am still confused about the whole "+2.0% gain for minmatar gives -1.2% loss with amarr" thing.

Could the diplomacy skill affect this somehow? I only have that to lvl 2.

Edit: I guess I'll raise diplomacy to 4 and see if the numbers change. I'll hold off on the storyline missions until then.


Diplomacy skill only affects negative standings towards Factions and Corps listed in - standings section - 'Disliked by' tab - of the character sheet. Connections affects positive standings listed in the 'Liked by' tab.

When you gain positive standing for a Faction, Corp and Agent, Social and Negotiation skills modify and increase the amount received which is then added to the correct standings section of the character sheet. At the same time, the Factions enemy receives 1/2 the amount in negative standings. Can't get around that. CCP likes to round up the negative standings amount and round down the positive standings amount incurred from derived standings.

Consider it as a Dance. 1 step forward with positive standing and 1/2 step back with negative standing. Move or 'Bounce' over to that Factions enemy and do the same, you'll then have moved up 1/2 a step positive with both Factions. The Epic Arcs allow a large positive jump with little to no negative steps back.

I hope this helps.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Standings_mechanics

Jho Ran
Posted - 2010.09.30 23:30:00 - [148]
 

Ah, yes, thanks for the reply, but I guess I wasn't being clear enough. :)

I wonder why I am getting a -1.2% decrease to Amarr as opposed to only a -1.0% decrease, when my minmatar standing goes up 2.0%

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2010.09.30 23:38:00 - [149]
 

CCP likes to round up the negative standings amount and round down the positive standings amount incurred from derived standings.

Jho Ran
Posted - 2010.09.30 23:44:00 - [150]
 

Awright, thanks. That's a lot of rounding. :(


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