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Auyra Shien
Posted - 2010.02.03 00:48:00 - [1]
 

So, I finally found a WH I am interested in and have decided its worth scanning and finding the static WH's which connect to the system. But I was wondering whats the best method of discovering the static WH's of the system?

Obviously first of all, find all the WH's and where they lead, but when they despawn and you have to look for the wormhole which replaced it if it is static, whats the easiest method when the system's sig ID's reset after every downtime?

Any help would be appreciated!

aetherguy881
Gallente
Posted - 2010.02.03 01:05:00 - [2]
 

You go there, sit there, wait for everything to despawn and respawn and then draw your conclusions from any trend that appears.

It can take less than a week to figure it out.

XXSketchxx
Gallente
Remote Soviet Industries
Posted - 2010.02.03 03:12:00 - [3]
 

I don't know if its the way you worded the op or of you are a bit confused on how the system works.

The term "static" is a bit of a misnomer. It really means that in every system, there is at least one type of wormhole that will always respawn. The location of these wormholes is not "static" and are not connected to the system but connect outward. That is, they are outbound to other systems (type of which is determined by the type of wormhole, i.e. B274 = high security)

Now, finding statics is pretty easy. If there is only 1 outbound wormhole (thus excluding K162, as they are the backend of a wormhole) then that is the static. However, if there are multiple outbound wormholes, then you need to stay 24-48 hours, to see which ones respawn.

So for instance, lets say you enter a Class 2 system from high sec via a R943 wormhole. In the class 2 system, this wormhole will be K162. This wormhole is going from high sec to the class 2. Thus this is definitely not a static. Now you probe down the signatures and you find a B274 wormhole and a C247. B274 is outbound to high security space and C247 is outbound to Class 3 systems. You say "great, this seems like a great system, I'll always have high sec and plenty of Class 3s to harvest."

The problem is, you cannot assume both of those are statics. Wait for each to despawn and then probe again. If they both respwan in new locations, then they are both static. However, chances are only 1 will respawn (systems with 2 statics are very rare), and this is the static. The other was a fake static, a random outbound.

Hope this helps.

Auyra Shien
Posted - 2010.02.03 03:56:00 - [4]
 

I already know how static WHs work. What I want to know is whats the easiest way to find the WH's again the next day when you have 40+ sigs to scan through again because the ID's reset at downtime..

XXSketchxx
Gallente
Remote Soviet Industries
Posted - 2010.02.03 04:06:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Auyra Shien
I already know how static WHs work. What I want to know is whats the easiest way to find the WH's again the next day when you have 40+ sigs to scan through again because the ID's reset at downtime..


To ignore things you already found:

Drop a 1AU probe and position around each of your bookmarks from the previous day. Ignore result. If no result, sites gone.

As for the rest of the sigs:

Learn to probe fast. You don't need to get everything to 100%. I do a 4 probe, 8AU diamond spread to eliminate as many of the higher strength ladar/grav sites that I can. Then I dorp to a 4 probe, 4AU diamond spread and go to each planet and eliminate signatures. From there its really just a matter of scanning each signature to the point where the type is shown.

Typecast
Posted - 2010.02.08 01:16:00 - [6]
 

There is no quick solution to your problem. You'll have to scan everything down again if the wormhole is no longer where it was the day before. Bookmark everything and then plop a 1 or 0.5AU probe on it to see if it's still there.

What I will say is... the wormhole you decide to live in isn't important. It is the statics that are. Eventually the wormhole system you are in will go dry (it might take a few weeks, but it will if you're doing the sites). Find one with the static wormhole class you're looking for. Each 24/16 hours you'll have a new system to explore, and you can always flip the wormhole and another will replace and hopefully will be what you're after- that's how my corp found a C1 with 54 combat sites and 20ish mags/radar/ladar/gravs earlier tonight.

You might have already known about that though, but I hope those that don't know now!

Llauron
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2010.02.08 15:20:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Llauron on 08/02/2010 15:23:38
Originally by: Auyra Shien
I already know how static WHs work. What I want to know is whats the easiest way to find the WH's again the next day when you have 40+ sigs to scan through again because the ID's reset at downtime..


The easiest way of finding the WH's again, will be to bookmark them, warp to te bookmarks the next day, and when they are still there you can just drop a probe at minimum range to find the sig ID.
This will also work with other sites, although i suggest you just scan the bookmarks on your map in stead of actually physically warping there because of obvious reasons.
Initiating warp to sites (and cancelling) will trigger the sites, making them despawn in a couple of days. So if you are being plagued by 40 sigs, most of them will be gone a few days later.


 

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