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Ivvor
Posted - 2010.08.13 09:25:00 - [301]
 

Originally by: Tyrion Moath

Thoughts, suggestions, feel like pointing out how crazily ridiculous this sounds and what an utter waste of time it will be? :)


Personally I still think there is something important to be found by examining the locus signatures. Since discovering that they are timestamps/coordinates and that the first 10 hours are missing, somebody else noted that there is another strange gap later on in the sequence. Overall, over 12 hours are missing across at least 2 significant sequences.

To extract and analyse the data I grab the SQLite version of the EVE static database dump and then either browse it using the SQLite Manager extension for Firefox or extract the data using Python which has native SQLite support. This does require knowledge of SQL to use, but it's probably less painful to learn SQL than to input 2498 locus signatures by hand ;)

My working assumption is that the center of the locus is the EVE gate and all W-space systems are arranged at various distances around it in a circle. The missing segments perhaps contain the missing pieces we need to solve this puzzle if only we can get there somehow by solving the problem of how to command the wormhole network. My theory here is that navigation requires controlled collapsing and respawning of the 'static' wormholes which as far as I can tell only appear in W-space.

Ivvor
Posted - 2010.08.13 10:14:00 - [302]
 

Originally by: Pottsey

Well I cannot speak for the others but I for one have hit a dead end. Not found new information for a while.



It's easy to get to the point of giving up, but around about the time I decided, with certainty, that the Sleepers simply MUST be the Enheduanni I realised that we could all just be getting carried away with certain assumptions and over-analysing things way too much.

Now maybe the Sleepers, or at least the drones, really are the Enheduanni (think digitised post-human hive beings, with a god complex, looking for flesh puppets to harvest/subjugate), and that would help to neatly tie up a lot of loose ends in the lore but I think Dropbear has hinted that what is going on here is not something so dramatic.

Let's start looking at some more basic things, such as what was the point of detonating all that Isogen-5 in the first place? Certainly we ended up with wormholes, but it was via some pretty extreme solar engineering. Maybe the Sleepers are opening wormholes INTO suns in order to harness their energy in a more direct way. Many of the Anoikis suns are very different to the New Eden suns. Maybe the Sleepers ran out of energy (leaving behind the anomaly's) there and our suns are next on the list for harvesting?

On a more basic level I keep finding out new things about the Sleepers. I only recently read about the 'eye' patterns on some connecting Sleeper structures. They could just be airlock structures, but they look too much like eyes for it to be accidental. Personally I think it's another hint at the post-human nature of the Sleepers.

Also, the other day when exploring class 3 space I had another look at the 'Solar Cell' site. The enclave there is quite different to all the other enclaves I've seen. It appears as if two enclaves have been fused together in some way, but why?

Yesterday I also randomly recalled a very elaborate rogue drone structure I encountered once that I seem to remember looking oddly similar to some of the Oruze constructs. I couldn't find any pictures of the old site though so it could just be my imagination.

Finally, how do the Sansha factor into all of this? I don't think they are directly involved with the Sleepers, but they clearly found something important that allowed them to use wormhole tech in a way we cannot. Did they find a specific thing or did they just solve a particular problem to get there?

Ultimately I suspect that if we are running into dead ends then it's probably because we were heading in the wrong direction anyway. Time to think outside the box.

Auwnie Morohe
Posted - 2010.08.13 10:36:00 - [303]
 

Pottsey : You dont need a corp to start exploring Sleeper space. I have been running around wormholes for a couple of weeks now with a covops and a Zephyr. The Zephyr is all you need really.

I was looking at the EVE trailers when there was a closeup of the middle section of an enclave and I remembered Lianda's words that it looked familiar somehow and it does. Then it hit me it is a upside down dome like in the Pantheon in Rome. It is not world shattering evidence of the Jove trying to collapse the universe for their evil kicksVery Happy but it does again confirm some ideas about how the sleepers viewed the universe and in turn could explain their actions. Even if it turns out to be a dead end it still is a nice history lesson.
Quote:
The 9 meter (around 30 feet) diameter oculus in the ceiling serves as a mirror of the round heaven


There is the Zephyrs sails I mentioned earlier. It is another example of little clues and there are hundreds of them everywhere but for some reason I am the only taking "notes" or at least talking about them here.

Seriously every day I find new thing. Just yesterday I was listening to podcast and they mentioned a very common fact about Sleeper space and how that it made life harder for them. Then it occurred to me that in the light of all things Sleepers and another lead I had going this seeming little annoyance became something much more important. Maybe even the reason the Talocan and Sleepers went where they went.

Auwnie Morohe
Posted - 2010.08.13 11:19:00 - [304]
 

Cool stuff Ivvor.
The eye theme makes a very obvious appearance in one of the trailers.Wink And I think links to the Enheduanni as in all seeing.

This is a bit of a total stretch but if the locus are actually a time line of discovering the systems. Maybe the systems that are missing were lost to the sleepers, as in conquered by their enemies and rid of everything Sleeper. In turn it could explain why the Seyllin incident created connections with only systems with Sleeper structures in them.

Ivvor
Posted - 2010.08.13 12:08:00 - [305]
 

Originally by: Auwnie Morohe
In turn it could explain why the Seyllin incident created connections with only systems with Sleeper structures in them.


Actually this is an interesting point and relates to something I've been wondering myself lately. As far as I can tell, static wormholes only appear in Anoikis itself.

For those who don't know, a static wormhole is a wormhole of a particular designation (eg A239) that appears in a system and when it despawns/collapses a new hole of the same designation will, within at most a few minutes, respawn in the same system, but it's k-162 exit will lead to somewhere different.

On an earlier exploration run, I went around K-space hisec looking for static wormholes and logging the location of all the non-K162 wormholes I could find. When I went back a few days later, none of those wormholes were still spawning. Now maybe there are some static K-space wormholes out there, but I'd assume they are rare and special if they are.

Now, it's possible wormholes spawn this way for gameplay reasons, ie a static wormhole in K-space would be abused pretty brutally by anybody who knew where it is and without static wormholes in Anoikis systems a system could get left with no wormhole exits, but maybe this is not the reason.

Are the Sleeper structures themselves attracting wormholes of a particular type to those systems, or is it some combination of sun/anomaly type? Does this even help us in any way?

It's also worth noting that not all wormholes in Anoikis are static. My corp was recently in a system with two statics, but every once in a while we'd get a rogue wormhole of a seemingly random designation that would link to somewhere quite different but wouldn't respawn when it ran its cycle. Where do they come from?

Another thing that puzzle me is why are there so many different designations for wormholes. When you actually look at the data, many of them link to the same class system, with the same mass and time allocations anyway so why the different designation? Do they link to different pools of systems within a particular class or are some designations rarer than others and link to special locations?

Questions that may mean nothing, or could mean a lot. Who knows, but always plenty of new avenues to explore.

khazak mokl
Amarr
Black Viper Nomads
Posted - 2010.08.13 13:53:00 - [306]
 

All WHs have a static exit and there are also regional static WHs that travel around that region.
There is a post on the missions forums about it somewhere with a big list of the work so far.

Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
Posted - 2010.08.13 14:29:00 - [307]
 

Edited by: Istvaan Shogaatsu on 13/08/2010 14:30:44
Hmmmm.

This may be another random tangent. It's been brought up before.

Can anyone see parallels between our attempts to map the wormhole network, and the chronicle titled Extinction Burst? This chron has been bugging me lately... doubly so, since I noticed a vague description of the same maze in another chron, A Pleasant Surprise:

Originally by: A Pleasant Surprise
Krezek got more and more excited the further he inspected the data; apparently these were real complexes, with hi-tech facilities, torture labs - no one had said the Jove were nice - and all sorts of automated machinery to change the systems around and even alter their interior architecture. The deeper one got, the more mutable the systems appeared to be.

...

Krezek was too enraptured to notice. He said, half to himself and half to anyone in the vicinity, "Gods, I'd love to try out some of the stuff they've got here. Do you see this? Self-modifying walls! And it's all wired up. It's like the blueprint for the world's biggest rat maze."


A series of shifting, interconnected rooms... a Jovian petri dish. The deeper you get, the more mutable it becomes.

edit: I think I'm the Hanging Long-Limb.

Auwnie Morohe
Posted - 2010.08.13 23:39:00 - [308]
 

Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Can anyone see parallels between our attempts to map the wormhole network, and the chronicle titled Extinction Burst? This chron has been bugging me lately... doubly so, since I noticed a vague description of the same maze in another chron, A Pleasant Surprise:


I also think it is noteworthy, actually more than that. The overall feel I get is that the scientist is rather non human. Somewhat like a god messing with creatures for his own amusement whether they are animals or humans.

I havent read the Black Mountain series yet so I cant comment on that. There is a interesting maze in the Burning life book though.

There is a parallel but it is a stretch at best. They are both mazes but with wormhole space that is only a problem if you need the "natural" wormholes to get around. The Sansha for one dont have that problem.

If anything I think New Eden is more a petri dish then wormhole space is. Sleeper space was devoid of biological living things up until not very long ago, in space anyway.

Sophia Brons
Posted - 2010.08.14 07:48:00 - [309]
 

Edited by: Sophia Brons on 14/08/2010 07:48:26
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Edited by: Istvaan Shogaatsu on 13/08/2010 14:30:44

Can anyone see parallels between our attempts to map the wormhole network, and the chronicle titled Extinction Burst?


I've always thought this chronicle as the scientist being ccp and the animals being us, looking for the answer =)

It talks about the same learned behaviour which doesn't work to exit the maze. The doors and answers are everywhere only they can only be accessed with non-classical measures.

ISK'er
Posted - 2010.08.16 22:50:00 - [310]
 

Edited by: ISK''er on 16/08/2010 23:08:55


First of all I'm totally new to this and to the game itself so please ignore if this was already said somewhere.

Oruze Osobnyk

Phonetically: Oruze - a·rouse/əˈrouz/Verb

1. Evoke or awaken (a feeling, emotion, or response): "something about the man aroused the guard's suspicions".
2. Excite or provoke (someone) to anger or strong emotions: "an ability to influence the audience and to arouse the masses

and Osobnyk which in Polish (Osobnik) means "organism" is commonly used as a replacement word for "person" or "entity"

Taking both meanings of arouse - was it provoked and it's awaken now? Virus? Creator? God? Is he/she/it the one that will start the "Invasion"?

Umega
Solis Mensa
Posted - 2010.08.17 00:00:00 - [311]
 

Edited by: Umega on 17/08/2010 03:09:43
Edited by: Umega on 17/08/2010 00:39:53
Something that I believe needs to be pointed out concerning the chronicle Extinction Burst.

Look at the picture.. what is in that picture that stands out? Didn't strike me at first, but then it was rather obvious in that sudden moment of clarity..

What is in the picture is a shape, symbol, what have you of a Sleeper construct. What ever label you may wish to designate it with.. an Oruze.

What else is there that sticks out along with that.. a pyramid. Take a look at a number of items aquired from Sleeper salvaging and what have you, what are they shaped like? A pyramid.

Where do these two items combine.. human history 101, Egypt circa 3000 bc. Whats to say human's haven't been nudged along by something else, 'scientists' for longer than we've been in the EVE cluster. Maybe there was something in the EVE cluster even before humans arrived, and they've been visiting the milky way longer than we've visited EVE cluster galaxy. Purely speculation at this point.. I know. Merely food for thought.

Some images you might want to look up and examine of Egyptian origin are the Ka, Ra, Ankh. Ra and Ka. Look, read.. connect dots to Sleepers

EDIT: Another thought. A maze.. humans running around in a maze. Perhaps Earth was the origin of humans, maybe not. Slightly irrelevent, point is Earth is a room and we were being poked. EVE gate/wormhole was another doorway for us to walk through into another room. And the door was shut.. why? To test what would happen to us, in a variety of different ways. Different cultures having to re-adjust and adapt to what happened. Each one poked in different ways to produce different results, maybe to 'burst' certain human aspects, or merely to watch how we evolve given our different, varying conditions we as indivual 'races' were subjected to. And then once every speciman of the same species was altered enough.. push all of them back in on each other, with their varying, wide degree of phsyical, mental, emotional changes and see what happens.

"You are not alone. Perhaps you never were."

Auwnie Morohe
Posted - 2010.08.17 12:39:00 - [312]
 

It has been suggested before that Oruze might have some connection with Horus. For some strange reason I have avoided looking deeper into Egyptian mythology. I also thought Sesen and Araeus were kinda interesting.

There are other places on earth that have pyramids and worship the sun.

Ripi
Posted - 2010.08.17 13:01:00 - [313]
 

Dropbear has already said that Oruze means sun and that we should move on from that. He then went on to say that we should try to compare what we should try and draw parallels between unknown space and known space.

Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
Posted - 2010.08.17 13:20:00 - [314]
 

Yeah, so... what do we do in the last room?

Umega
Solis Mensa
Posted - 2010.08.18 02:29:00 - [315]
 

Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Yeah, so... what do we do in the last room?


We.. talk to Ourselves

Ripi
Posted - 2010.08.18 12:23:00 - [316]
 

Imo i think that there is some way we can trigger the mirror to perhaps activate. It seems to be the central structure in their network. Or perhaps we since the Oruze construct seems just like an unfinished mirror we need to wait for it to be finished. Another point i remember was when (someone i don't know who) was walking the the AI of the mirror that the AI stated that it did not have enough power to finish the calculation. I think that possibly a cap transfer may the the answer to this.

Ned Black
Posted - 2010.08.19 09:04:00 - [317]
 

Very interresting thread.

One thing that I was not really contemplating at the time it happened was quite some time ago while I was living in the drone regions.

I found a drone complex that contained an unstable wormhole. At that time I did not think about anything but killing the drones. I did not check them out nor what the buildings really looked like, but I did try to enter the WH and failed doing so.

It could be an interresting connection between sleepers/wormholes and drones thought so I thought to bring it up.


Iwantsexwithyou convome
Posted - 2010.08.21 12:54:00 - [318]
 

Originally by: Pottsey

Well I cannot speak for the others but I for one have hit a dead end. Not found new information for a while.



Perhaps taking a deeper and a fresh look into the already discovered information would be good then,you never know what u can miss by accident.

Myxx
Atropos Group
Posted - 2010.08.21 15:30:00 - [319]
 

Because the thread pottsey used to request more information is locked due to time:

Forgotten Core Assembly Hall:
Quote:
Space is a lullaby, exploration a dream. The motionless environments beyond the wormholes are places of refuge, retirement, safety, stasis. Nestled in this corner, a comfortable deadspace pocket, something ancient resides: a society asleep, their secret structures inert and isolated, safe in soundless void. These ruins doze away, oneiromantic.

They’ve slumbered for millennia, yet their structure remains intact. In their torpor, their memories have dimmed, their significance forgotten, their inhabitants faded. Ripe secrets are stored in this sleeping mass, hidden wonders for the taking. Reaching the Sleepers’ treasures is a hazardous task.

Something stirs amidst the ancient outpost: a nagging fear, a festering phantasm. Not everything sleeps peacefully here: Who knows if there are nightmares lurking in this berceuse?

Selvis
Caldari
Firebird Squadron
Terra-Incognita
Posted - 2010.08.21 18:49:00 - [320]
 

Originally by: Myxx
Because the thread pottsey used to request more information is locked due to time:

Forgotten Core Assembly Hall:
Quote:
Space is a lullaby, exploration a dream. The motionless environments beyond the wormholes are places of refuge, retirement, safety, stasis. Nestled in this corner, a comfortable deadspace pocket, something ancient resides: a society asleep, their secret structures inert and isolated, safe in soundless void. These ruins doze away, oneiromantic.

They’ve slumbered for millennia, yet their structure remains intact. In their torpor, their memories have dimmed, their significance forgotten, their inhabitants faded. Ripe secrets are stored in this sleeping mass, hidden wonders for the taking. Reaching the Sleepers’ treasures is a hazardous task.

Something stirs amidst the ancient outpost: a nagging fear, a festering phantasm. Not everything sleeps peacefully here: Who knows if there are nightmares lurking in this berceuse?



Should probably point out that is the same pop-up for most of the Magnetometric sites.

Brother Philbert
Posted - 2010.08.24 11:21:00 - [321]
 

Originally by: Ripi
Imo i think that there is some way we can trigger the mirror to perhaps activate. It seems to be the central structure in their network. Or perhaps we since the Oruze construct seems just like an unfinished mirror we need to wait for it to be finished. Another point i remember was when (someone i don't know who) was walking the the AI of the mirror that the AI stated that it did not have enough power to finish the calculation. I think that possibly a cap transfer may the the answer to this.


has anyone been able to try this out to see if there are any results?

Wyke Mossari
Gallente
Posted - 2010.08.24 12:39:00 - [322]
 


Assuming the locus signatures are timestamps, has anybody tried observing structures at these times, just before, during, just after for any changes?

ThaMa Gebir
Gallente
SUECHTLER Inc.
Saints Amongst Sinners
Posted - 2010.08.24 13:54:00 - [323]
 

If the Locus signatures are timestamps, does that mean somehow that they are related to the sleeper databank/salvage piece that suggests that distance was measured in time? And that somehow we have there a result to the calculations made at that point from such a part?

Ivvor
Posted - 2010.08.24 15:59:00 - [324]
 

Locus signatures appear to be potentially either time stamps or one part of a celestial coordinate system (right ascension) that uses a 24 hour period to mark a point around a circle. The recent QEN report referred to their being 2499 W-space systems, although according to the EVE static database dump there are 2498 systems. Either way, my assumption is at least one 'missing' system is the centre point of the coordinate system, but may be in K-space, ie the original EVE wormhole.

There are too dead spaces in the locus signature range, from J000000 to J100000, and between J174449 to J203753. There are three anomalous locus signatures that are formatted slightly differently to all the others. All the locus signatures for each class of wormhole are spread fairly evenly around the active ranges. There are a lot less systems of class 6 than the other classes.

Although many pilots have tried to use many different modules on wormholes, the one way we do know we can influence them is by controlled collapse by total mass overload and respawning at a time of our choosing. A wormhole doesn't actually spawn until somebody scans it down and warps to it's non-K162 end. It is currently unknown as to whether the exit (K162) of a wormhole is active before a pilot tries to jump through it.

Beyond controlling the spawn time of a wormhole I have (so far) no good idea on how exactly to control a wormhole's destination. Some have hinted they can control the destination of a wormhole to a certain degree, but nobody has yet revealed how they do it which leads me to conclude they actually can't.

If I ever do actually manage to crack the wormhole code I will NOT be keeping it to myself.

Asbalon Jade
Posted - 2010.08.26 05:21:00 - [325]
 

Originally by: Ripi
Imo i think that there is some way we can trigger the mirror to perhaps activate. It seems to be the central structure in their network. Or perhaps we since the Oruze construct seems just like an unfinished mirror we need to wait for it to be finished. Another point i remember was when (someone i don't know who) was walking the the AI of the mirror that the AI stated that it did not have enough power to finish the calculation. I think that possibly a cap transfer may the the answer to this.


Hiya's.

Just wanted to intervene here a bit before someone wastes their time ;-).

I know I wrote this somewhere else, but not sure in which mega thread, so sorry bout that.

The story surrounding the Mirror, Asbalon Jade, and anything with the AI "Carina" is pure fiction from me. In my heart I'll allways be a role player, hence anything ingame is a story waiting to be told.


The background behind the story though... that is from CCP and the popups I recieved from the mirror.
As I wrote the story I used this information to build the background of what happend. In this case the initial warp in scream claimed that there were lots of data streams, to many and to complicated for the ships computers to decipher. The only hope would be a very weak radio tranmission coming from the enclaves and might be decipherd if one could home in on them.

Ofcorse in retrospect this was a big hint from CCP that there was something to be found.

The next part of the story, my AI hacking into the site, explained the Popups, although in real game, no hacking was needed to recieve the popups.

The last bit were the popups themselves. To me they seemed to be either a system computer directory (/dir) or something like a building map. I chose it to be more a computer directory. Sorry to say the popups are static. Hence, clicking on the words/numbers does not allow you to dig deeper into the system. Hence the part of my story claiming that Carina's routines are hamped by the fact that she does not have enough computing power at her dispose to dig any futher into the system.


Sorry if this complicated a few things, when Pottsey posted it I guess would should have kept it more "informative" rather than role played. Then again, I doubt any of us would have thought that such a find would have started such a huge outcome =).


BTW: if someone from ccp is reading this.. to bad you were not able to make the mirror into a mini game. Don't know if anyone still remembers Ultima Online, but there used to be a mini game in there for an event. You had limitied time to "operate" on a monster before it died. Your goal was to grab something like a brain before that happend. Took some practice. Would have been nice if hacking the mirror would have worked like this hehe =)
A linky to the thing I mean, if only for nostalgia.

Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see
Chained Reactions
Posted - 2010.08.27 10:18:00 - [326]
 

Originally by: Ned Black

I found a drone complex that contained an unstable wormhole. At that time I did not think about anything but killing the drones. I did not check them out nor what the buildings really looked like, but I did try to enter the WH and failed doing so.

It could be an interresting connection between sleepers/wormholes and drones thought so I thought to bring it up.



This is very interesting new information, at least to me. There is also a COSMOS mission where a sleeper drone is manipulating rouge drones. For me this piece of information is a missing link between the Seylin incident and the sites we found in sleeper space.

What are the Sleepers doing in w-space?
As far as i know from the hints from the Mirror and from Dropbear here in the Forums, the Sleepers collect massive amounts of energy from the Suns and anomalies. The Oruze Osobnyk has this modified part that stores the energy. But how they store the energy? Well i think they produce Isogen-5 to store it. Because from what we know it is extremely energy rich.

Why where there Isogen-5 deposits in k-space?
From your new information and the fact that we saw sleeper drones manipulate rouge drones before, i think they used the rouge drones to move the Isogen-5 they produced to the specific locations where they where used to trigger the Seylin event. BUT did they finished their plan or was the incident really an incident and what we see today as the wormhole network is not really what the sleepers had in mind?

I think we need more information to find out what the real plan of the sleepers is/was. At the moment we can only guess and from what we see ingame i would say this was not planed. Because why should they expose them-self this way to the races back in the New Eden cluster?

And this poor little rouge drones, looks like they are abused by everyone and liked by no one SadSadSadWink

Ivvor
Posted - 2010.08.27 15:33:00 - [327]
 

Originally by: Karak Terrel

What are the Sleepers doing in w-space?



Personally I think a far more interesting question may be what were/are the Talocan doing there as they appear to have been there first?

Originally by: Karak Terrel

Why where there Isogen-5 deposits in k-space?
From your new information and the fact that we saw sleeper drones manipulate rouge drones before, i think they used the rouge drones to move the Isogen-5 they produced to the specific locations where they where used to trigger the Seylin event. BUT did they finished their plan or was the incident really an incident and what we see today as the wormhole network is not really what the sleepers had in mind?



I've been wondering if the class 6 wormhole site 'Strange Energy Readings' perhaps explains how the Isogen-5 got to k-space in the first place. The site refers to a recent immense matter displacement of a large cache of a powerful isotope. Maybe Isogen-5 only exists in w-space and the Sleepers could only transport it to certain types of star, but needed the rogue drones to do the heavy lifting of actually moving it into the correct position for detonation. My suspicion is that the Sleeper drones can't function for very long away from their w-space energy sources.

Originally by: Karak Terrel

I think we need more information to find out what the real plan of the sleepers is/was. At the moment we can only guess and from what we see ingame i would say this was not planed. Because why should they expose them-self this way to the races back in the New Eden cluster?



It's hard to say whether what happened was supposed to happen in the way it did. Ultimately it was down to a very annoyed rogue drone hive mind choosing death over slavery. How much did the hive mind know about and/or support the Sleeper plan? We can't know for sure.

As has been suggested elsewhere it's possible we are only seeing part of the Sleeper domain. What we can access now may be a lure to draw in unwary capsuleers in the hopes some of us forget our probe launchers and get stuck. They may be harvesting us to provide suitably prepared (thanks to the Jove) bodies for their sleeping/stored masters who can't fit in regular human bodies any more because they've spent too long as digital constructs living in VR. Was Jamyl Sarum a first attempt at reintegrating a Sleeper mind into flesh after a long biological absence perhaps?

On the other hand a fairly mundane possibility is that the whole w-space to k-space incident was just about reconnecting to the EVE gate as the Sleepers are now ready for it. They may be completely indifferent to our very existence.

Goremageddon Box
Posted - 2010.08.30 05:14:00 - [328]
 

pottsey im so glad to see you still researching into the sleepers and everything. i will have to venture into wormhole space to check some of this out, i read all those beautifully well put together emails you sent me from a while back when we spoke about more of these theories.

keep up the excellent work.

ThaMa Gebir
Gallente
SUECHTLER Inc.
Saints Amongst Sinners
Posted - 2010.08.31 06:26:00 - [329]
 

Another question, have the names of the wormholes leading to the various systems been correlated at all? I realise it may be pretty hefty but it may give some clues... Or another way to cartograph the systems and linkages.

E.G. K162 to J2345678 named on the other side as Z985

Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see
Chained Reactions
Posted - 2010.09.01 16:18:00 - [330]
 

Originally by: ThaMa Gebir
Another question, have the names of the wormholes leading to the various systems been correlated at all? I realise it may be pretty hefty but it may give some clues... Or another way to cartograph the systems and linkages.

E.G. K162 to J2345678 named on the other side as Z985


The name correlates with the class of the Wormhole. This way you can say how long it will last or how much mass can pass:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Wormhole#Wormhole_Identification


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