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Wesfahrn
WESCORP 2.0
Posted - 2010.02.01 11:10:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Wesfahrn on 01/02/2010 11:11:53
Would be an interesting project. People who gank are equally susceptible to being ganked themselved. While the gankers battle it out, the lone guy is doing all his trading and mission stuff. However you would be best of with a few mates (Oh noes i have to socialize) when missioning and such, which in turn would make these tasks much more profitable. It will be the renesance of T1, and will give nuubies alot of oppertunity from day 1. Keyword is friendsip and social bonding will get you what you want, not just a 3 year old char with 1337 marauder skills.

Yeah lets do it, WoW has cataclysm, EVE has concord collapsing.

How do you think it would look like? Pros and cons?

Nathan Kundi
Posted - 2010.02.01 11:13:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Nathan Kundi on 01/02/2010 11:13:14
EVE would drown in carebear tears and the forum would be full of people ragequitting. Laughing

edit: not sure if that's pro or contra

Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
Posted - 2010.02.01 11:16:00 - [3]
 

Armageddon day is what it would look like almost. Total mayhem.

Elisha Starkiller
Posted - 2010.02.01 11:16:00 - [4]
 

Yep agree with above.... most of the players would leave...

as much as PVP'ers in general believe that this game is only for PVP the reality is that there are more "Carebears" than there are PVP'ers, so ok lets say they left.... who is going to build the ships? and who are you going to suicide gank now? :p

Pro's - Massive scale griefting in high sec...
Cons - no one to grieft/Suicide gank

YARRRR!!

Wet Ferret
Posted - 2010.02.01 11:18:00 - [5]
 

Highsec would be pointless, 80% of EVE would be griefed out of the game and you'd be back to struggling to break 5k peak users.

Reem Fairchild
Minmatar
Punic Corp.
Posted - 2010.02.01 11:18:00 - [6]
 

I wouldn't make sense RP wise for Empire space to not be heavily policed.

xSHOCKWAVEx
Posted - 2010.02.01 11:20:00 - [7]
 

the game relies on industrialists to make ships and items. if they cant get out of station without dying you cant buy anything. the game would fail.

Wesfahrn
WESCORP 2.0
Posted - 2010.02.01 11:21:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Wesfahrn on 01/02/2010 11:22:09
Players would leave, alts would be cancelled. Because there would so much more to do with just one character. Oh and who said only carebears build things? I see carebear pvp'ers also. They tend to amass in huge blobs, and usually fail engagements where numbers are even. Things get built in 0.0 too you knows :)

I want this, i want concord to disappear, it will definitely bring people more together.

RootEmerger
Posted - 2010.02.01 11:24:00 - [9]
 

would be fun... for a week or so, then with no carebears and nobody building any new ship would be a bit less fun fighting with noobships.

Firvain
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.02.01 11:24:00 - [10]
 

removing concord will just mean whole eve will be 0.0

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
Posted - 2010.02.01 11:26:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 01/02/2010 11:26:54
Would crash the population, kill many popular playstyles and make grouping mandatory instead of an option. Not to mention the ganking groups wouldn't allow just anyone to join, so many players would be forced to stay docked permanently and quit.

This is the kind of thing, that might be fun for a day or two, but gets old really fast. The ones getting ganked will leave fast and the gankers will get bored soon after the prey has left. Interesting event possibility, but crappy gameplay design.

Wesfahrn
WESCORP 2.0
Posted - 2010.02.01 11:27:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: xSHOCKWAVEx
the game relies on industrialists to make ships and items. if they cant get out of station without dying you cant buy anything. the game would fail.


There are so many stations in eve, they cant be camped all at once. And if they do, like i mentioned in OP, the campers/gankers would just be a target for other gankers. An equilibrium of relative security would emerge based on these principles, think of it as a type of NRDS.

VanNostrum
Posted - 2010.02.01 11:30:00 - [13]
 

Errr..the bigger roaming group would kill smaller groups. Undocking any station in any ship would be a nightmare.

so being in a smaller group/solo = carebear? Some stupid comments above

Robert Korad
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2010.02.01 11:31:00 - [14]
 

I would like it as in-game event for a day or more. Like WoW had before the Lich king addon, where everyone could become zombies and go out cleaning the major cities. It could be RP event, when CONCORD databases are hacked and ships put out of line (by Guristas/Angels/third party - I only don't know if it is by the rules of EvE background). I bet there would a lot of pirates coming to high-sec for some blood and there would be enough RPers and high sec people that would create a temporary defence structure against pirates. Could be 3 or more days of anarchy in New Eden.Rolling Eyes

Serpents smile
Posted - 2010.02.01 11:32:00 - [15]
 

We already have 0.0. Surprised

But for arguments sake, Jita will cease to be the trade hub it's now.
Motsu will light up for a week in a big, big red blob on the map until all the mission runners and "ninja's" get "the message".

When mass mayhem calms a bit down after Concords collaps, and a massive amount of mission runners, rookie corp huggers, miners and haulers have left the game, those left behind will try to group together. Claim systems as their own. Probably around high quality level 4 agents.

With no law whatso ever, EVE will slowly grind to a halt. The market will collapse. Trade will die a painful death.

Only one good thing will happen. All macro farmers will have a very tough time, and probably stop polluting our game, since there won't be much money to be made out of the handful die-hards that are left behind.

Then CCP will fold and we finally all can
go



back



to



wow.
Laughing


Wesfahrn
WESCORP 2.0
Posted - 2010.02.01 11:33:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Wesfahrn on 01/02/2010 11:41:32
Edited by: Wesfahrn on 01/02/2010 11:39:29
Originally by: Robert Korad
I would like it as in-game event for a day or more. Like WoW had before the Lich king addon, where everyone could become zombies and go out cleaning the major cities. It could be RP event, when CONCORD databases are hacked and ships put out of line (by Guristas/Angels/third party - I only don't know if it is by the rules of EvE background). I bet there would a lot of pirates coming to high-sec for some blood and there would be enough RPers and high sec people that would create a temporary defence structure against pirates. Could be 3 or more days of anarchy in New Eden.Rolling Eyes


Oh man it sounds so awesome

Originally by: Serpents smile
With no law whatso ever, EVE will slowly grind to a halt. The market will collapse. Trade will die a painful death.


Like you said, after initial mayhem people will begin to take matters into their owns hands in order to reach a somewhat secure situation. Systems without concord enforcement already exists, and time has proven this does not result in total mayhem - in fact, these systems are where the most complex manufacturing takes place.

A law is just 1 person telling the other what to do and how to behave. The law maker is under no law himself. In fact it is the laws, a monopoly on telling people what is good and what is bad, what they can and cannot do that makes people wielding this power Uncivilized, imoral parasites. But that is a completely different disuccision.

Rifter Drifter
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2010.02.01 11:35:00 - [17]
 

People might have to play together to up chances of survival and enjoyment.
In a modern MMO this is totally unacceptable.
Playing with other people? LOL you ***git I'm only here to undock and let 100 people see that I'm in a really cool navy raven I bought from some site. o wait.

tl;dr once fails, loners, idiots and the friendless left the game, all in all it would be pretty good - would give apoint to corporations being diverse..
Want to produce high end ships? need to mine ore? make sure you bring a combat escort to protect your miners, stay aligned.

much more fun than using miningbot9000.
But who plays a game to have fun in this day and age.

tl;dr again.
wat

Azran Zala
Fleet of the Damned
Legion of The Damned.
Posted - 2010.02.01 11:35:00 - [18]
 

Its called lowsec/0.0

You should get out more...

RaTTuS
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2010.02.01 11:37:00 - [19]
 

It's called
0.0 / WH space
Rolling Eyes

Wesfahrn
WESCORP 2.0
Posted - 2010.02.01 11:45:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Wesfahrn on 01/02/2010 11:45:11
The risk is what is supposed to make this game fun. But concord really removes this element to a great extent. Concord turns this game into grinding, to be able to afford tech2/3 so you can be welcomed in 0.0. With no concord, you T1 stuff will suffice what matters then is your approach to the game, and the bunch you play it with :)

Garr Anders
Minmatar
The Red Circle Inc.
Posted - 2010.02.01 11:46:00 - [21]
 

One server to play for all
On one server to find them
One server to bring them all
And to Eve Online bind them

Nooma K'Larr
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.02.01 11:48:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Nooma K''Larr on 01/02/2010 11:48:01
How about turning all of eve into 1.0 security for a day.

Call it, "CareBear Day"

rubico1337
Caldari
Mnemonic Enterprises
Posted - 2010.02.01 11:51:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: RootEmerger
would be fun... for a week or so, then with no carebears and nobody building any new ship would be a bit less fun fighting with noobships.


you are assuming carebears are the only ones who produce stuff and make a profit. that assumption is wrong

lylaal
Caldari
Posted - 2010.02.01 11:52:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: RaTTuS
It's called
0.0 / WH space
Rolling Eyes


Dennmoth Ferdier
Posted - 2010.02.01 12:03:00 - [25]
 

I think it'd be awesome to have one day in a year CONCORD fully disabled for 24 hours with HUGE banners everywhere "CONCORD STRIKE, NEGOTIATIONS FOR MORE PAY AND DOUGHNUTS ON-GOING!"

Deva Blackfire
Viziam
Posted - 2010.02.01 12:04:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: RaTTuS
It's called
0.0 / WH space
Rolling Eyes


PerrinAybarra
Cosmic Fusion
Advocated Destruction
Posted - 2010.02.01 12:17:00 - [27]
 

some dip brings this up every so often
let's see
1 a day maybe 2 before mass cancelations
2 oh we have builders in 0.0 as well sorry but they will never match empires sheer quantity
3 might as well forget caps as no ice mining anymore(not a bad thing)
4 CCP lasts a month afterwards due to no income

So yeah great idea. Seriously next time you get a good idea go take a dump it will equal the same

Nooma K'Larr
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.02.01 12:18:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: PerrinAybarra
some dip brings this up every so often
let's see
1 a day maybe 2 before mass cancelations
2 oh we have builders in 0.0 as well sorry but they will never match empires sheer quantity
3 might as well forget caps as no ice mining anymore(not a bad thing)
4 CCP lasts a month afterwards due to no income

So yeah great idea. Seriously next time you get a good idea go take a dump it will equal the same


And the a$$h0le of the year award goes to....

Droog 1
Posted - 2010.02.01 12:20:00 - [29]
 

It said 'cold harsh universe' on the box.

Garia666
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
Xenon-Empire
Posted - 2010.02.01 12:24:00 - [30]
 

a wet dream that would be


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