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Nooma K'Larr
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.02.01 08:58:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Nooma K''Larr on 01/02/2010 14:05:05
How long do you expect a growing eve population to continue on one server/shard?

You know it's just a matter of time.

It's coming, whether you like it or not.


*MEDIUM SHADER


Haramir Haleths
Caldari
Nutella Bande
Posted - 2010.02.01 09:00:00 - [2]
 

Believe me ... its not just one server Rolling Eyes

Banana Torres
The Green Banana Corporation
Posted - 2010.02.01 09:03:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Nooma K'Larr
How long do you expect a growing eve population to continue on one server/shard?

You will have a new name before the server shards.

*EXTRA HIGH SHADER

Nooma K'Larr
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.02.01 09:07:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Banana Torres
Originally by: Nooma K'Larr
How long do you expect a growing eve population to continue on one server/shard?

You will have a new name before the server shards.

*EXTRA HIGH SHADER


Can I get an order or plantains from your corp?

*PLAID SHADER

Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
Posted - 2010.02.01 10:07:00 - [5]
 

It really depends if there's some sort of cap on the number of servers TQ can utilize total. Space can always be expanded further; there are something like 7500 solar systems including w-space, 90% of which are uninhabited or sparsely inhabited with the 300,000ish active subscriptions EVE currently has.

Even if the game broke a million active subscriptions (with 150k PCU), I think the worst global issue would be overcrowding in some parts of highsec (which is easily fixable) and increased complaints about server performance from sov warfare (which isn't)

Serpents smile
Posted - 2010.02.01 10:10:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Serpents smile on 01/02/2010 10:10:19
Tinfoil hat much?

Arrow 1 Game
Arrow 1 Universe
Arrow 1 Cluster

CCP will never surrender! (I hope)Confused

OrionDude
POS Builder Inc.
Silent Requiem
Posted - 2010.02.01 10:13:00 - [7]
 

NEVAH !!!!

*PINK SHADER

Marlona Sky
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.02.01 10:16:00 - [8]
 

PLAID SHADER!!!

"They've gone to plaid!" Cool


RaTTuS
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2010.02.01 10:31:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Nooma K'Larr
How long do you expect a growing eve population to continue on one server/shard?

You know it's just a matter of time.

It's coming, whether you like it or not.



QFF
"Quote for Fail" Just in case you didn't get it

Alexeph Stoekai
Stoekai Corp
Posted - 2010.02.01 10:33:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Nooma K'Larr
How long do you expect a growing eve population to continue on one server/shard?

You know it's just a matter of time.

It's coming, whether you like it or not.


*MEDIUM SHADER


You sound pretty clueless. First of all, it's not just one server. The Tranquility cluster consists of a large number of linked server blades, some handling background stuff like the filesystem, chats, market, etc. while most are dedicated to "nodes" running systems. Currently, most nodes are carrying a number of systems, with only a select few nodes being reserved for a single system (like Jita and the reinforced nodes they move temporarily crowded systems to).

This structure can be developed and expanded for a very long time to come, theoretically culminating when every system is hosted on its own server blade. Even then, the software, background processes and the blade hardware itself can be upgraded indefinitely.

Splitting Tranquility will not alleviate lag, as it would likely also involve dividing the cluster hardware in two, thus creating two shards with 50% population and 50% performance.

Nooma K'Larr
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.02.01 11:36:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Alexeph Stoekai
You sound pretty clueless. First of all, it's not just one server. The Tranquility cluster consists of a large number of linked server blades, some handling background stuff like the filesystem, chats, market, etc. while most are dedicated to "nodes" running systems.


I know. Rolling Eyes

I just summed it up as "one server." Alot shorter than the paragraph you just wrote.

Originally by: Alexeph Stoekai

Splitting Tranquility will not alleviate lag, as it would likely also involve dividing the cluster hardware in two, thus creating two shards with 50% population and 50% performance.


Who said anything about splitting. I'm talking about adding a whole new "server/shard."

That would alleviate the lag, no?

Zaiyo Modi
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.02.01 11:40:00 - [12]
 

I believe CCP stated at some presentation of their server tech, that 100.000 concurrent players was a sensible load today afaik.

Garr Anders
Minmatar
The Red Circle Inc.
Posted - 2010.02.01 12:08:00 - [13]
 

One server to play for all
On one server to find them
One server to bring them all
And to Eve Online bind them

PerrinAybarra
Cosmic Fusion
Advocated Destruction
Posted - 2010.02.01 12:23:00 - [14]
 

2003 they said 50k with numbers on anymore with the issues after 50k i would say the 2003 number to be more accurate. Of course the devs were more on hands in the community than now.

Droog 1
Posted - 2010.02.01 12:30:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Nooma K'Larr
How long do you expect a growing eve population to continue on one server/shard?

You know it's just a matter of time.

It's coming, whether you like it or not.


Do you have any proof or is this just your own stupid opinion?

Nooma K'Larr
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.02.01 12:36:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Droog 1
Originally by: Nooma K'Larr
How long do you expect a growing eve population to continue on one server/shard?

You know it's just a matter of time.

It's coming, whether you like it or not.


Do you have any proof or is this just your own stupid opinion?


Hmmm...well, let me see. Confused

How many "stupid" threads do we have on "lag" so far?
Stupid opinion? Educated guess maybe?ugh

You'll eat your words when CCP does it...without warning.

Oscillation Overthruster
Posted - 2010.02.01 12:50:00 - [17]
 

Why are so many people so heil bent on turning EvE into WoW in space?

Oh, and "Opulent Shader"


WarlockX
Amarr
Free Trade Corp
Posted - 2010.02.01 13:17:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: WarlockX on 01/02/2010 13:18:27
Originally by: Nooma K'Larr
Originally by: Droog 1
Originally by: Nooma K'Larr
How long do you expect a growing eve population to continue on one server/shard?

You know it's just a matter of time.

It's coming, whether you like it or not.


Do you have any proof or is this just your own stupid opinion?


Hmmm...well, let me see. Confused

How many "stupid" threads do we have on "lag" so far?
Stupid opinion? Educated guess maybe?ugh

You'll eat your words when CCP does it...without warning.


Ok, but splitting it into two servers would cause more lag not less because you're taking away half the cluster. Have you ever tried to play a game like wow? You get 5000 ppl on one server and the thing crashes.

Alexeph Stoekai
Stoekai Corp
Posted - 2010.02.01 13:27:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Nooma K'Larr
Originally by: Alexeph Stoekai
You sound pretty clueless. First of all, it's not just one server. The Tranquility cluster consists of a large number of linked server blades, some handling background stuff like the filesystem, chats, market, etc. while most are dedicated to "nodes" running systems.


I know. Rolling Eyes

I just summed it up as "one server." Alot shorter than the paragraph you just wrote.

Originally by: Alexeph Stoekai

Splitting Tranquility will not alleviate lag, as it would likely also involve dividing the cluster hardware in two, thus creating two shards with 50% population and 50% performance.


Who said anything about splitting. I'm talking about adding a whole new "server/shard."

That would alleviate the lag, no?
So then we're talking about a second shard with exactly the same hardware as TQ? I'd like to compliment you on an idea that will both more than double CCP's server costs at little to no benefit to the players, while also completely destroying one of the unique selling points of EVE.

Also, you completely ignored the point I was making. The cost for constructing a second shard with the same level of hardware could much more easily be spent on (for example) doubling the number of nodes on TQ. That would also have the added benefit of not ruining the game.

Nooma K'Larr
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.02.01 13:57:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Alexeph Stoekai
So then we're talking about a second shard with exactly the same hardware as TQ? I'd like to compliment you on an idea that will both more than double CCP's server costs at little to no benefit to the players, while also completely destroying one of the unique selling points of EVE.

Also, you completely ignored the point I was making. The cost for constructing a second shard with the same level of hardware could much more easily be spent on (for example) doubling the number of nodes on TQ. That would also have the added benefit of not ruining the game.


You mean to say a virgin EvE universe would not attract a massive wave of new subs? I disagree.

RaTTuS
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2010.02.01 13:59:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Nooma K'Larr

You mean to say a virgin EvE universe would not attract a massive wave of new subs? I disagree.

I disagree to this

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2010.02.01 14:01:00 - [22]
 

3 Games 1 server 1 universe 1 war

*GREY SHADER

Emperor Serenity
Amarr
Posted - 2010.02.01 14:03:00 - [23]
 

moronic thread is moronic

-9/10 for lack of any form of effort

and to answer this god forsaken TROLL

NO!!!

Making stupid post after post about this subject IS NOT GOING TO MAKE IT TRUE, this **** only works in america.


CCP Atropos

Posted - 2010.02.01 14:05:00 - [24]
 

8 bit shader

Iaoth
Posted - 2010.02.01 14:05:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Emperor Serenity
......... this **** only works in america.




Oh really?

And what third world ****hole that owes America money for saving its ass in two world wars do YOU live in, oh high and mighty grand poo-bah?

Kiss my American Ass.


Nooma K'Larr
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.02.01 14:08:00 - [26]
 

You mean no one here would want to start over in a clean eve universe?

I would love it. Talk about the wild west. Yeee-ha!!

*Cowboy Shader

Emperor Serenity
Amarr
Posted - 2010.02.01 14:12:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Iaoth
Originally by: Emperor Serenity
......... this **** only works in america.




Oh really?

And what third world ****hole that owes America money for saving its ass in two world wars do YOU live in, oh high and mighty grand poo-bah?

Kiss my American Ass.




LOL can you be more WRONG?

the Great war tide turned in the allied favour WAS the ****ing October revolution, As lenin and his followers wanted an increase in war effort, not a withdrawel like the ZAR wanted.

2. WW HOW would things have looked if the crazed german dictator never attacked Russia?

yes you are obviously blinded by your own propaganda

I do welcome our new European overlords : THE RUSSIANS

Adria MalDoran
Posted - 2010.02.01 14:29:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Emperor Serenity
Originally by: Iaoth
Originally by: Emperor Serenity
......... this **** only works in america.




Oh really?

And what third world ****hole that owes America money for saving its ass in two world wars do YOU live in, oh high and mighty grand poo-bah?

Kiss my American Ass.




LOL can you be more WRONG?

the Great war tide turned in the allied favour WAS the ****ing October revolution, As lenin and his followers wanted an increase in war effort, not a withdrawel like the ZAR wanted.

2. WW HOW would things have looked if the crazed german dictator never attacked Russia?

yes you are obviously blinded by your own propaganda

I do welcome our new European overlords : THE RUSSIANS


Well, if you wanna get technical, here's the TechniColorô version :
Russia provided the man-power.
America (and to some extent the british and other allies) provided the hardware.

Atleast up until the russians actually got generals that could fight worth a damn (Stalin had killed off all the competent ones just before the war), and started making their own equipment (american trucks were responsible for moving the vast majority of supplies during the war) :-P

Oh, and Turqoise Shader :-D

destinationunreachable
Hello Kitty Fanclub
Posted - 2010.02.01 14:32:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: CCP Atropos
8 bit shader


libcaca NOW!

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2010.02.01 14:34:00 - [30]
 

quick where is the circa eve 1960's picture with 2bit shader commented on it?


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