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boliano
Caldari
Fallen Angel's
White Noise.
Posted - 2010.01.27 00:31:00 - [511]
 

Edited by: boliano on 27/01/2010 00:31:47
Originally by: BondGamer
I don't think a lot of people understand the situation. It took BOB well over a month to lose all their space when their alliance disbanded. We lost it within hours. There wasn't even a chance to defend.

Great job CCP.



Lol so not paying ur bills has somehow become ccps fault??Rolling Eyes

ooh page 18

Anitta Blake
Caldari
BSC LEGION
Split Infinity.
Posted - 2010.01.27 00:31:00 - [512]
 

"give them enough rope and they'll hang themselves"

Rolling Stone

Perfections Curse
Gallente
e X i l e
Posted - 2010.01.27 00:44:00 - [513]
 

... Linkage

Karma is a *****, aint it?

LegendaryFrog
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.01.27 00:47:00 - [514]
 

Edited by: LegendaryFrog on 27/01/2010 00:47:31
Originally by: Windryder
Ummm sorry to throw some facts into the bull**** but...

When BoB lost sov it was 100% and would have taken a week to get cynojammer protection back and jump bridges up again. Also would have been a minimum 23 hours to get basic sov back again. With the alliance gone standings would be shot and other problems would be confounding things.

Now Goons lost sov... it was not entire regions - go look at the maps. It was 10-15% tops. It was also ONLY one corporation within the alliance, and occurred at exactly 60 days from dominion. Thats 2 bill cycles afaik.

With the new sov mechanics, it takes the TCUs 8 hours to online, upgrade levels don't decay immediately, so JBs and cynojammers could be back up in under a day.

BoB lost 100% coverage for a week, and their enemies knew it was coming.
Goons lost 15% coverage for 8 hours, and no-one knew it was coming.

The two events are barely comparable.



At least you are right about the last bit. The point of the matter is, when BoB's sov dropped, they retained control over all their assets and stations. With this situation (which is completely our own fault), within a few hours, IT could take stations and sov, without so much as a single pos to blow up first (we blew up over 500 to take delve, if you recall).

Avernus
Gallente
Paragon Fury
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2010.01.27 01:01:00 - [515]
 

I think it's fairly easy to nitpick over who had/has it worse for this particular situation, the two events vary on the negative effects and duration. I think people should focus on a happy middle ground where consensus can possibly be reached... like the fact that several hundred people still can't stop laughing about this.

Zantrei Kordisin
Amarr
FinFleet
Posted - 2010.01.27 01:05:00 - [516]
 

Originally by: LegendaryFrog
At least you are right about the last bit. The point of the matter is, when BoB's sov dropped, they retained control over all their assets and stations. With this situation (which is completely our own fault), within a few hours, IT could take stations and sov, without so much as a single pos to blow up first (we blew up over 500 to take delve, if you recall).


You are right. We're so sorry, thank you for helping us see the error of our ways.

We'll be leaving now. We'll give you some time to get your jammers back online and then we can do this all the honourable way. It's the only right thing to do.

Fishslapper
Caldari
Invictus Australis
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.01.27 01:15:00 - [517]
 

I love the smell of burning goonies in the morning...

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.


ChYph3r
Minmatar
Multiplex Gaming
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
Posted - 2010.01.27 01:17:00 - [518]
 

Originally by: Zantrei Kordisin
Originally by: LegendaryFrog
At least you are right about the last bit. The point of the matter is, when BoB's sov dropped, they retained control over all their assets and stations. With this situation (which is completely our own fault), within a few hours, IT could take stations and sov, without so much as a single pos to blow up first (we blew up over 500 to take delve, if you recall).


You are right. We're so sorry, thank you for helping us see the error of our ways.

We'll be leaving now. We'll give you some time to get your jammers back online and then we can do this all the honourable way. It's the only right thing to do.



ROFLMAO

Zeus Carver
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.01.27 01:24:00 - [519]
 

welp!

fugazii
Minmatar
TunDraGon
Posted - 2010.01.27 01:31:00 - [520]
 

Originally by: LegendaryFrog
Originally by: fugazii
Originally by: Vasili Z
Originally by: Khara Kleib
BoB lost all sov, Goon lost partial sov

Whine all you want but to claim you are facing greater difficulties than BoB did back then is laughable.


I disagree, BoB got sov back in all their systems when they formed Kenzoku, so they were still able to dock and get their ships and form proper fleets to defend, just lost their cynojammers.

Goons on the other hand, cannot dock again or get their caps/ships out to properly defend before 24 hours has even passed. Goons are far more ****ed, which is, hilarious.


Bob lost all defenses in every single system they had, jb's, cj's ect. Goons have only lost 25% of their territory, meaning they still have full defense capabilities and jb networks in a vast majority of their space. If they're stupid enough to keep all their **** in 1 system after seeing how well that worked out for BoB in PR then that's noones fault but their own.


Sov works a little bit differently now (notice, we can lose many stations in less than 24 hours, this was literally impossible under the old system).


Your point is completely valid, there's 2 different systems in place and tbh for both parties in both occasions **** is .... well it's ****ty. Your absolutely right, it only takes 8 hours to gain a system now but what your failing to acknowledge is this system works both ways, yes you can lose it in 8 hours but at the same time you can gain it back in 8 hours. Coupled with the fact that 3/4th of your space is still in tact and wasn't effected by today you'd have to agree that your in a much better position than what BoB had to go through.

Dimitryy
Gallente
Broski Enterprises
Elite Space Guild
Posted - 2010.01.27 01:42:00 - [521]
 

I lol'd a bit

JacKDynne
Minmatar
Fairlight Corp
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2010.01.27 01:47:00 - [522]
 

Well done IT, well done.

I like my bees well done Cool

Nom Nom Nom Smile




Cynthia Nixon
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2010.01.27 01:49:00 - [523]
 

Edited by: Cynthia Nixon on 27/01/2010 01:48:55
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Tobruk
Caldari
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.01.27 01:57:00 - [524]
 

Edited by: Tobruk on 27/01/2010 01:57:49
wha a bunch a hypocrites

I had to spend months reading bob tears about the haargoth I win button. How wrong it was, and how it should be fixed etc - Now, here they are, gloating when the same **** happens to someone else Rolling Eyes

maybe goonswarm will get their space RELOADED and IT can make their own threadnought [full circle]

Doctor Penguin
Amarr
Sacred Templars
Black Star Alliance
Posted - 2010.01.27 01:58:00 - [525]
 

Edited by: Doctor Penguin on 27/01/2010 01:58:56
This is kind of funny.

Oh wait, no it isn't. I'm forgetting how much Goon trolling has just been made into total jokes thanks to hindsight.

Bye bye Goons. Better go up north or east and cry for space again. Confused

Carl Tremura
Caldari
Ceptacemia
Unforgiving.
Posted - 2010.01.27 01:59:00 - [526]
 

Originally by: Douglas Pearce
Originally by: SirMolle
Karma is a *****, aint it?


Karma for what? For one of your own directors who disbanded your alliance?

This is a bug.


Actually when the director who controls the wallet doesnt log in and sort his job, its technically not a bug... its incompetence. There is a difference i think. But you keep believing its a bug if it helps you sleep tonight.


Zantrei Kordisin
Amarr
FinFleet
Posted - 2010.01.27 02:09:00 - [527]
 

Originally by: Tobruk
Edited by: Tobruk on 27/01/2010 01:57:49
wha a bunch a hypocrites

I had to spend months reading bob tears about the haargoth I win button. How wrong it was, and how it should be fixed etc - Now, here they are, gloating when the same **** happens to someone else Rolling Eyes

maybe goonswarm will get their space RELOADED and IT can make their own threadnought [full circle]


it's a bit more hypocritical for the goons to be crying about it really

but thanks for trying to make a good post you'll probably get there sometime soon

Admiral Machiavelli
Caldari
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.01.27 02:10:00 - [528]
 

So we burned BoB out of Delve, headshotted a few alliances, did some neck-snapping when IT came back poking around 49- again a couple weeks ago... And now this.

In the end, what ends the Delve Dream isn't our enemies, or traitors, or spies, or even bugs; it's our own incompetence.

Considering this is Goonswarm, that's oddly fitting.

In case it hasn't been mentioned anywhere yet (unlikely), Goons are pulling up tents. The loss of our major staging systems means defense of this extremely expensive space is a bad idea at best (it's horrendously draining on ISK post-Dominion and the R64 nerf) and a catastrophe at worst.

IT guys reading this are probably going to spin this as some great accomplishment on their part, but don't kid yourselves; this was all us.

Vasili Z
Minmatar
Cosmic Odyssey
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2010.01.27 02:10:00 - [529]
 

Originally by: fugazii
your in a much better position than what BoB had to go through.


I hope goons die more than anyone, but BoB had enough time to form a new alliance, then prepare for the invasion with fleets and getting members in place before the massive cluster**** that was all of Eve came knocking on it's door downing hundreds of POS before they could take any stations because BoB was able to counterspam to stall.

Half of goons are logging in to play their daily dose of Eve to find it already too late to even attempt to save the stations because sov is already IT.

Cribb
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.01.27 02:14:00 - [530]
 

This made my day :)
So goons had Delve for 5-6 months

OMG they just lost EVE Wink

DaiTengu
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.01.27 02:16:00 - [531]
 

look at how bitter an angry Molle is over an internet spaceship game. It has consumed his tiny, meaningless life so much, that he's engaged to a girl he met in internet spaceships, and he spends every waking hour trying to kill goonswarm.


Hey molle, you still haven't killed us. The first time around, our culture won out and caused your old alliance to disband, then we proceeded to kill your giant space dongue, and take all your space while your alliance sat pitifully camped into an NPC station for a month.

In this case we are the victims of our own stupidity.

We keep telling everyone how bad we are at this game, but no one seems to believe us.

Maybe now they will.


And we destroyed your alliance. Twice.


What does that say about you?

Zantrei Kordisin
Amarr
FinFleet
Posted - 2010.01.27 02:19:00 - [532]
 

Originally by: DaiTengu
look at how bitter an angry Molle is over an internet spaceship game. It has consumed his tiny, meaningless life so much, that he's engaged to a girl he met in internet spaceships, and he spends every waking hour trying to kill goonswarm.


Hey molle, you still haven't killed us. The first time around, our culture won out and caused your old alliance to disband, then we proceeded to kill your giant space dongue, and take all your space while your alliance sat pitifully camped into an NPC station for a month.

In this case we are the victims of our own stupidity.

We keep telling everyone how bad we are at this game, but no one seems to believe us.

Maybe now they will.


And we destroyed your alliance. Twice.


What does that say about you?



I mean this in the nicest way but I think you are probably taking this entire spaceship thing a bit too seriously. I mean, you know, attacking someone's rl is a bit of a sign that you are rather bitter about those space pixels.

DaiTengu
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.01.27 02:22:00 - [533]
 

Originally by: Zantrei Kordisin
Originally by: DaiTengu
look at how bitter an angry Molle is over an internet spaceship game. It has consumed his tiny, meaningless life so much, that he's engaged to a girl he met in internet spaceships, and he spends every waking hour trying to kill goonswarm.


Hey molle, you still haven't killed us. The first time around, our culture won out and caused your old alliance to disband, then we proceeded to kill your giant space dongue, and take all your space while your alliance sat pitifully camped into an NPC station for a month.

In this case we are the victims of our own stupidity.

We keep telling everyone how bad we are at this game, but no one seems to believe us.

Maybe now they will.


And we destroyed your alliance. Twice.


What does that say about you?



I mean this in the nicest way but I think you are probably taking this entire spaceship thing a bit too seriously. I mean, you know, attacking someone's rl is a bit of a sign that you are rather bitter about those space pixels.


hey buddy I'm not the one who spends every waking hour plotting to destroy some internet spaceship guild.

Cheng
Gallente
Reikoku
Posted - 2010.01.27 02:24:00 - [534]
 

Edited by: Cheng on 27/01/2010 02:26:13
Originally by: Tobruk
Edited by: Tobruk on 27/01/2010 01:57:49
wha a bunch a hypocrites

I had to spend months reading bob tears about the haargoth I win button. How wrong it was, and how it should be fixed etc - Now, here they are, gloating when the same **** happens to someone else Rolling Eyes

maybe goonswarm will get their space RELOADED and IT can make their own threadnought [full circle]


You know, what happened to former Bob and what has happened to Goonswarm is not, in any ways, the same... A single person disbanded an alliance with a single click of a button. Goonswarm, however, being the failtards they are, failed to do the simplest of things, that is pay up their bills, well just some of their bills...

Different a s s h o l e but same s h i t , ultimately ofcourse.

DaiTengu
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.01.27 02:28:00 - [535]
 

Originally by: Cheng
Edited by: Cheng on 27/01/2010 02:26:13
Originally by: Tobruk
Edited by: Tobruk on 27/01/2010 01:57:49
wha a bunch a hypocrites

I had to spend months reading bob tears about the haargoth I win button. How wrong it was, and how it should be fixed etc - Now, here they are, gloating when the same **** happens to someone else Rolling Eyes

maybe goonswarm will get their space RELOADED and IT can make their own threadnought [full circle]


You know, what happened to former Bob and what has happened to Goonswarm is not, in any ways, the same... A single person disbanded an alliance with a single click of a button. Goonswarm, however, being the failtards they are, failed to do the simplest of things, that is pay up their bills, well just some of their bills...

Different a s s h o l e but same s h i t , ultimately ofcourse.


bob lost delve because someone pushed a button. we lost delve because someone forgot to.

Cheng
Gallente
Reikoku
Posted - 2010.01.27 02:29:00 - [536]
 

Originally by: DaiTengu

hey buddy I'm not the one who spends every waking hour plotting to destroy some internet spaceship guild.



u mad ?

p.s. plz continue, the tears are delicious! om nom nom

Airborne Ninja
Minmatar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.01.27 02:31:00 - [537]
 

YES I AM FULL OF RAGE AND ANGER I SHALL GO KICK MY DOG NOW

Admiral Machiavelli
Caldari
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.01.27 02:33:00 - [538]
 

Originally by: Cheng
Originally by: DaiTengu

hey buddy I'm not the one who spends every waking hour plotting to destroy some internet spaceship guild.



u mad ?

p.s. plz continue, the tears are delicious! om nom nom


What tears.

I know your life has little meaning outside the confines of spaceship games, but trying to manufacture some kind of satisfaction derived from crying which doesn't really exist is pretty sad.

Cheng
Gallente
Reikoku
Posted - 2010.01.27 02:35:00 - [539]
 

OM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM

weixing
Amarr
Slippery Penguin
Posted - 2010.01.27 02:36:00 - [540]
 

Originally by: DaiTengu


hey buddy I'm not the one who spends every waking hour plotting to destroy some internet spaceship guild.



Your just a guy who paid 15$ to have access to a guild to kill another guild.


boosh


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