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ForumSelling Alt
Posted - 2010.01.24 12:57:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: ForumSelling Alt on 26/01/2010 21:28:07
Edited by: ForumSelling Alt on 25/01/2010 03:10:28
Edited by: ForumSelling Alt on 25/01/2010 03:09:50
As the title says i'm selling off a nyx supercarrier... details are below - this is a simple WTS & i'll use either chribba or darknesss, buyer to pay their fees.

I'll check mail daily on this account but dont be suprised if it takes me a day or so to get back to you, real life and all, + this being an alt account n all (Doh!).

High Slots:
*Capital Remote Armor Repairer,
*Capital Shield Transporter,
*Remote ECM Burst,
*Improved Cloaking Device II,
*Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator,
*Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator,


Mid Slots:
*Cap Recharger II x5

Low Slots:
*Capital Armor Repairer,
*Capacitor Power Relay II x6

Rigs:
*3x Large Trimark Armor Pump II

Drones:
20x fighters (5 of each flavour)

Cargo Hold:
100k Oxygen Isotopes

Pricetag: 21b isk



Shani Mukantagara
Amarr
Fairlight Corp
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2010.01.24 13:49:00 - [2]
 

21b are you dreaming ?

ForumSelling Alt
Posted - 2010.01.24 14:46:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Shani Mukantagara
21b are you dreaming ?


nope not really, since its now potentially capable of doing 10k dps, has currently 3million raw armor (with slaves) and resists averaging high 80-low 90% aka EHP in the 10's of millions = well worth the price tag

Naomi Wildfire
Amarr
Spricer
Raiden.
Posted - 2010.01.24 15:02:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Shani Mukantagara
21b are you dreaming ?


QFT

Good luck selling it Laughing

Luxo
The Scope
Posted - 2010.01.24 15:13:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Luxo on 24/01/2010 15:13:27
thats CHEAP for 12m EHP YARRRR!!

free bump :)

Tyler
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2010.01.24 15:24:00 - [6]
 

The price is fine, ignore the others.

Letifer Deus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2010.01.24 16:46:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Letifer Deus on 24/01/2010 16:46:31
4b increase in price with a ~1.5b decrease in build cost, love it. Laughing

menace ace
Gallente
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
Posted - 2010.01.24 16:56:00 - [8]
 

dont see why ppl are complaining of pricing .. last time ccp said they were going to buff them they were selling at and around these prices now its actualy here ur all saying its too much ??

with 1 trimark II hg slaves and a damnation i get 3 mill armor and 21 mill ehp . wonder what this one gets :-P

Nice ship free bump

ForumSelling Alt
Posted - 2010.01.24 17:09:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Letifer Deus
Edited by: Letifer Deus on 24/01/2010 16:46:31
4b increase in price with a ~1.5b decrease in build cost, love it. Laughing


just because they technically cost slightly less to build in post 1.1 patch/dominion doesnt automatically mean that the ships get cheaper....

With the patch the supercarrier not only got an insane buff (4x the damage, 4x the tank etc) but they also became that much harder to produce securely without sov 4 - increasing the risk to builders which then knocks into the actual price of the hull, afterall it only takes 1 aborted mom to negate the profit from 3 or 4 other builds completely.

I'll update the OP with some stats later if ppl want about EHP etc, need to find a nice damnation pilot with mindlinks in for acurate figures for people to drool over

RoCkEt X
Hostile.
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
Posted - 2010.01.24 17:17:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: RoCkEt X on 24/01/2010 17:16:53
correct fit should give you around 30mil ehp with no damnation pilot.

EDIT: loving the meercat reference :D

ForumSelling Alt
Posted - 2010.01.24 20:20:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: RoCkEt X
Edited by: RoCkEt X on 24/01/2010 17:16:53
correct fit should give you around 30mil ehp with no damnation pilot.

EDIT: loving the meercat reference :D


heh well just think of all the insurance quotes i've had on this puppy since various patchs were announced... us meerkats need our sleep so its up for ze hammer

Sahara Eternity
Amarr
Imperial Academy
Posted - 2010.01.24 23:52:00 - [12]
 

Yea ... but the mineral cost of a nyx it 8.5 - 9.5 bils now ... you do realise that.
And stop pointing to hauling mins and protection, not all of us are naive ... Wink

/s

osen'Tulkus
Posted - 2010.01.25 00:03:00 - [13]
 

As a supercap producer, I agree with the seller.. Super Caps have become incredibly risky to build. I would have much rather built SuperCaps with less profit and no risk.

Before Dominion.. these ships could be built without any risk of being attacked... you would have to reinforce all other system and complete a whole campaign just to get sov 4 to drop. Now you can hot drop the POS and force a battle after as little as a day, as opposed to weeks of fighting.

I predict prices will keep going up, especially after some ships are aborted. It won't be long before these battles started taking their toll.

Sahara Eternity
Amarr
Imperial Academy
Posted - 2010.01.25 00:14:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Sahara Eternity on 25/01/2010 00:29:09
Edited by: Sahara Eternity on 25/01/2010 00:26:21
LOL

Actualy nop, the risk of building theese things was always ... the same (aka big - but then again don't fly any thing you can't afford to lose ... or was it build Laughing). No offence but a lot of them are made each month Laughing and don't tell me that you have 200 ppl guarding the system 24/7 just to build a Nyx ... oh come on people we are not that stupid.Mad

Search this forum dude, there are at least 3 Nyx'es for sale for 15 bils. WTF ? Someone sells them a lot more cheaper than u ... so what ... this is what I call competition.

good luck with the sale any way

EDIT: Don't get me whrong m8, if you want to fool people to pay 21 bils for a ship that is worth a lot less then it's fine with me but don't throw that bull... about how hard it is to build/haul/whatever (or tanking capabilities - lol that was a good one) mkay ? Some already know that Wink

Hint: for thowse who want to own (and use) a supercarrier all you have to do is join a big alliance (you will be amaised how easy it is theese days) earn and proove your trust and they will build you one a lot more cheaper (incredible close to minerals value) Wink

ForumSelling Alt
Posted - 2010.01.25 01:02:00 - [15]
 

mm i'll bite the troll just for lolz........


actually if you built them in sov 4 then you gained about a months leeway if anyone decided to try and interrupt any supercap construction to defend etc and it was such a major pain in the arse most 0.0 entities wouldnt bother as a griefing mechanism....

now without sov 4 there is the POTENTIAL (key word here) for larger alliances to have fun griefing others on a relative whim by reinforcing/attacking CSAA pos's - hell even pirates have the cap fleet to cause a rucus to some producers. Same principle of r64's back in the day, just RF 5-10 spread around the place and dont go to the 2nd stage, rinse and repeat enough times and they let a pos op slip, et viola you gain a r64 for however long..... with supercaps that one slip costs the builder a lot more in the aborted ship.

ergo - extra risk needs to be factored into the costs

the bit about the new hp/dmg etc was to outline another reason WHY it was that much more expensive than an old nyx, for 4b extra your gettin a ship which is 3 or 4 times as effective :P

as for the oh, theres 3 for 15b... lol theres 1 active for 18.5, 1 just sold for 21 and another is on auction for 21-25

People pay what they feel the ship is worth, please take the trolls elsewhere :)

Anisa Schardl
Posted - 2010.01.25 01:18:00 - [16]
 

Pretty simple supply and demand here, though I assume you're just a troll. People were willing to pay 15 billion before the patch. With the patch, a lot more people want them. Demand up.

Supply has never been big for these ships, since up until now they have been marginally effective toys of the rich. There are more titans in the game than supercarriers. Supply will eventually catch up, but not for a while.

Demand up, supply the same, price up. Easily evidenced in the bidding wars taking place for the other supercarrier sales.

Yttria
Caldari
EVE-RO
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2010.01.25 01:30:00 - [17]
 

Hmm ... Nyx 15 B


Wyvern 16 B
Wyvern 16 B

ForumSelling Alt
Posted - 2010.01.25 01:39:00 - [18]
 

ee to the above troll - read what i say - i agree there is 1x NYX auction for 18.5b.....

wyvern is a different kettle of fish and always has been pricewise, please forum warrior elsewhere

osen'Tulkus
Posted - 2010.01.25 02:35:00 - [19]
 

so.. yeah.. I just will restate that the risk is much higher, and that the risk is yet to be tested and there is nothing wrong with increasing the price, especially because these are much better ships now, so the demand will go up.

Supply and demand, time will tell. But, I believe this seller is just trying to compensate for future losses (perhaps a bit too much.. I'm selling my Nyx with a buyout of 18.5... and I've seen bids this high, but to each their own). Frankly I setup my auction last week for 20 bill, and got no bites so I dropped prices.

If you have this much of a problem with our prices, go buy a BPO, and a BPO for the components, drag a Capital Ship Assembly Array out to 0.0 and build your own damn NYX. Otherwise, quit trolling on this guy forum post.

ForumSelling Alt
Posted - 2010.01.25 03:09:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: osen'Tulkus

Supply and demand, time will tell. But, I believe this seller is just trying to compensate for future losses



TBH since dominion i've stayed well clear of the supercap markets and this is quite simply me offloading the last of old stock - the pricetag was set at the previous sale price from a nyx the other day and, in the true nature of trading, its an opening shot for some goold old fashioned haggling :)

Dont forget - a lot of people stopped building supercarriers when the original changes were "delayed" so there will hopefully be a lull for a week or 3 where demand for the new "uber" capitals will outstrip demand.... who knows picking up the pair for sale now might net someone a coupla bill profit by reselling... thus is eve :P

Originally by: osen'Tulkus

If you have this much of a problem with our prices, go buy a BPO, and a BPO for the components, drag a Capital Ship Assembly Array out to 0.0 and build your own damn NYX. Otherwise, quit trolling on this guy forum post.


all i can say is QFT :-D

Natasha Nikolaev
Posted - 2010.01.25 05:52:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Natasha Nikolaev on 25/01/2010 05:56:18
Originally by: ForumSelling Alt
ee to the above troll - read what i say - i agree there is 1x NYX auction for 18.5b.....


It's really 17.5b. That last one is obvious troll post made 6 hours after the auction ended.

ForumSelling Alt
Posted - 2010.01.25 14:30:00 - [22]
 

back to the top for my daily bump - asked a mod to clean the thread of the trollin about pricetags etc - if you dont like it dont buy it :P

Mormagil
Posted - 2010.01.25 20:39:00 - [23]
 

friendly bump.

Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
Posted - 2010.01.25 21:32:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Natasha Nikolaev
Edited by: Natasha Nikolaev on 25/01/2010 05:56:18
Originally by: ForumSelling Alt
ee to the above troll - read what i say - i agree there is 1x NYX auction for 18.5b.....


It's really 17.5b. That last one is obvious troll post made 6 hours after the auction ended.


You need to train reading comprehension to level 1 at least.
That Nyx action was till Thursday (28th) and the price was 18.5 bil

Originally by: osen'Tulkus
Buyout offer of 18.5 bill accepted.. will update this post once the trade is complete.


If this guy is selling his for 21 bill, I say good for him and I hope he gets it.
I believe it's you, that is the obvious troll. Wink

Meer Kat
Rift Tech
Posted - 2010.01.25 21:35:00 - [25]
 

I approve this sale of an awesome ship Wink

Mhorbaine
Beyond Divinity Inc
Posted - 2010.01.26 01:01:00 - [26]
 

for a change i find myself agreeing with someone from the united - lovely ship, and fun reading the various trolls in the thread....

/me also approves of teh new meerkat advert, although hopefully this ship didnt make your uncles seasick :)

Natasha Nikolaev
Posted - 2010.01.26 01:44:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Natasha Nikolaev on 26/01/2010 01:52:28
Originally by: Mag's

You need to train reading comprehension to level 1 at least.
That Nyx action was till Thursday (28th) and the price was 18.5 bil


Hey, maybe you should look at the right nyx auction. You know, the one that ended 1/24 @ 2:00 eve time that un1corn bid on at 8:00, not the one that had an 18.5b bit TWELVE HOURS after my post. Rolling Eyes

However I'll admit un1corn ended up not being a troll as he did just buy that other nyx that you linked (while I was at work).

Zain Zee
Posted - 2010.01.26 01:48:00 - [28]
 

First off i want to say im on the market for a nyx, and well 21b is alittle over the top. Why you may ask, well mineral prices have gone down and along with the abundance of component BPCs. While the NYX BPC itself has gone up a couple hundred mill. but total price in minerals is around 10b if that at market prices, add 3b for BPCs and the rest is basicly profit. while it is not alot but still 2b every 3 weeks is a fair amount.
To increase the average price 6b when component cost has droped aprox 1b is crazy...titan prices have not changed if anything gone down why increase MS pricesConfused
To say its because they are supercarriers now and can deploy FB then why not sell them with FB wouldnt that make sense and justify the 6b increase some what.
anyway just my 2cents and wall of text.
GL on the lack of bidding Laughing
ill bid when sellers get off there high

ForumSelling Alt
Posted - 2010.01.26 03:42:00 - [29]
 

as i said earlier zain the price is always open to a bit of haggling :)

minerals at market are slightly over 10b, bpcs (or the investment capital for bpos) is just over the margin you quoted, but not far off...

now add in another 1.5-2b for t2 trimarks, fighters and the standard modules...

add in logistics, setup costs, risk factor & demand levels then the price tag doesnt sound too high does it

now if someone was genuinely interested and got in touch then they might discover that there are other "freebies" which may or may not be added into the deal for the pricetag depending on their requirements... just saying y'kno, you never ask, you never know

ForumSelling Alt
Posted - 2010.01.26 21:27:00 - [30]
 

nyx sold for 20b wi travel fit

thanks to mr darknesss for the 3rd party


 

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