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Posted - 2010.01.24 09:27:00 - [1]

Hey all, putting up my first POS and iv got a few issues that I figured cant be right.

1. Simple and complex reactors say they only have 1m3 cargo space, so does that mean i can only fit 2 raw materials units in there (at 0.4m3) and 1 simple compound (1m3)ect.

I must be reading this wrong but this would render the x2 100 units of raw materials for a simple reaction impossible...?

2. Simple and complex reactions work on the hour, but given 1) isnt the case, can you load a bulk amount of the products you want reacted and have the reactor just munch through the lot...e.g add 24hrz worth and come back in 24hrz to collect the finished results??

I dont see how useing reactors is practical otherwise...heres hopeing im a num nut and have missed something.

Thanks all

Posted - 2010.01.24 09:30:00 - [2]

Edited by: EternalFaust on 24/01/2010 09:30:57
1. Look into silos - that's what you're missing.

2. Yip

Posted - 2010.01.24 09:33:00 - [3]

Are, so a silo for the simple and complex reactor?

CPU/ Power wise can u fit one silo for the simple and complex reactor, or do you need one individual one for each? cheers

Blue Sky Industry
Posted - 2010.01.24 09:34:00 - [4]

you are reading it wrong, that 1m3 is where you put the reaction you brought of the market want the simple/complex reactor todo.

the materials get fed into the reactor from input silos and go into an output silo, you don't feed the material into the reactor directly yourself.
so silos appear to be one thing you missed Laughing

Fallout Project
Posted - 2010.01.24 09:41:00 - [5]

There is guide for that. Propably up in that useful links sticky, if not try eve wiki.

In a nutshell
(2x input silos) -> Reactor (with blueprint in it) -> 1x output silo.

Coupling arrays are optional and not needed in reality. You can replace one or both input silos with moon miners if you have pos on moon where you can mine the material needed for your reactor.

Posted - 2010.01.24 09:41:00 - [6]

heh heh, thanks.

yes it seems i have mis read silos alot.

so to clarify, this is the chain that should be set up

Moon miner- deposits to simple reactor + 1st silo deposits 2nd raw material into simple reactor.

Simple reactor outputs into 2nd silo which then inputs the 2+ materials into the complex reactor.

Complex reactor then outputs material into 3rd reactor??? that sounds to complicated now i read it...

Posted - 2010.01.24 09:54:00 - [7]

posted to quickly after that last comment.

so the reactors pass the materials between each other? no silos needed in between?

What if you need to ad a advanced material in before it enters the complex reactor.

e.e my situation. i can mine one of the two raw's for the simple reaction, so therefore i take it i need 1 silo to add the bought one in.

But then the complex reaction needs to advanced materials, i make one and buy one, so do i need another input silo for the bought one into the complex reactor?

so complicated lol...

Tau Cabalander
Posted - 2010.01.24 10:16:00 - [8]

You don't always need a silo, and really never a coupling array.

It is possible to connect stuff directly if the output of one satisfies the input of the other. If they are mismatched (say 200 units output but only 100 input, or vice versa) then you must use a silo.

Velda Chulai
Posted - 2010.01.25 11:21:00 - [9]

Moon mining and reactions is both simple and complex!

I'm a comedian. I'll be here all night.

Most mining scenarios are like yours, and require multiple towers. Simpler reaction chains can be done with as few as three control towers with appropriate modules, depending on the towers themselves.

Before you even anchor your first reactor, right click on the control tower and select the Manage panel, and get familiar with it. This screen will offer you vital details, including a scan of the available materials on the moon. Once you've anchored the silo(s), harvester(s), and reactor, the management panel will show details for each step of the process. Without a reaction installed, the reactor won't offer any available input or output link. Also, unlike the silo, the reactor doesn't actually store product.

Think of it less like a reactor that fuses one or more input materials into output products and more like programming an object in a space video game, except instead of code, you install a piece of the programming puzzle in the "reactor" with instructions (in the form of hot Reaction "blueprints").

Using the processes tab in the control tower management panel, you can choose to drop the reaction blueprint into the reactor's reaction slot, or you may drop it into the reactor's 1m3 cargobay directly. Either way, the processes tab will change to reveal the reactor's input and output slots, enabling you to configure them - which you do by dragging. Your inputs may be a moon harvesting array or a silo, and the output can be either a coupling array, a silo, a reactor, or whatever sick, twisted solution you end up with. Whatever you do, make sure that you've selected a compatible material for the outputs, chosen by selecting the "Choose Type" on an Anchored harvester/silo/coupling array. Oh, and it's perfectly normal to have unconnected links - if you've configured an silo and a moon harvester that connect to the reactor's inputs, you don't need an input to the silo.

Simple reactions will always output the same total product mass that you input. In other words, if you output to a complex reactor, you will lose half of your theoretical complex output. This is why you'll want to set up a small network of control towers.

As for coupling arrays, they offer very limited utility except as smaller silos. Consider other solutions before you rely on them. 155 CPU can be better used for piling a heap of ECM mods to protect your investment.

A final word of advice
Make double sure you've slammed the apply button a few dozen times, or you'll come back a few days later with nothing but a fuel bill for your efforts. Doublecheck that everything is online and connected, and consider chilling out for a few hours near your tower to ensure that it's working.

My apologies if you've gotten through all these things, but I wanted to provide a complete overview of the process incase there were any questions about what needed doing.

Good luck!

Jack Sabastian
Posted - 2010.02.06 00:40:00 - [10]

Before you put up your pos I would read most of the pos guides in the Sticky resource thread.

Also Since this is your first pos I would also suggest you go on the test server and try setting it up there first to get some experiance in it, before you go around in lowsec playing with a billion isk worth of stuff.


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