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Tarmat
Caldari
Zero Company
Posted - 2010.01.17 18:19:00 - [1]
 

Need some help here.

Me:
Industrial command ship lvl4
Warfare Link spec: lvl4
Mining director lvl4
Mining foreman lvl 5

With the Mining laser field bonus, what range am i supposed to get with my alts in hulks? Im currently getting 18km, but according to my own guesswork i should have 20+

Is my math(guesswork) way off, or is there something wrong with my bonus/fleet setup? I have an orca, and 2 hulks in 1 squad, with the orcapilot as squadcommander

Burnharder
Posted - 2010.01.17 19:40:00 - [2]
 

Leadership V
Mining Director V
Mining Foreman V
Warfare Link Specialist IV
Industrial Command Ships IV
Mining Foreman Mindlink

Gives my hulks 22m range. I think 18km is probably about right for your setup.

Tarmat
Caldari
Zero Company
Posted - 2010.01.17 19:58:00 - [3]
 

Balls....well, have to train the rest of the skills then Laughing btw: i havent seen any difference in range when i trained Warfare Ling Spec.

Burnharder
Posted - 2010.01.17 20:04:00 - [4]
 

To be honest, I have no clue how it works and don't have the inclination to learn. It's all a confusing mess. Just train and pray. That's what I usually do.

Echo Mande
Posted - 2010.01.17 22:52:00 - [5]
 

The biggest increase you'll get as a mining booster is probably the one from the mining foreman mindlink and that's what you're missing. 18KM with your skills is about right from my experience.

Fornicis
Caldari
APOCALYPSE LEGION
Posted - 2010.01.17 22:55:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Fornicis on 17/01/2010 23:01:47
Edited by: Fornicis on 17/01/2010 22:56:08
Originally by: Burnharder
To be honest, I have no clue how it works and don't have the inclination to learn. It's all a confusing mess. Just train and pray. That's what I usually do.


Improved fleet leadership. Boosts effectiveness of all warfare link and mining foreman modules by 10% per level.

Taken from Evemon description of the skill, basically for every level it increases the effectiveness of each link by 10%.

So your links at level 1 give

4.5% optimal
2% duration reduction
2% activation reduction

So at Mining Director level 5 you would get:

22.5% optimal
10% duration reduction
10% activation reduction

And then with Mining Foreman Ganglink you would get:

33.75% optimal
15% duration reduction
15% activation reduction

And then with Warfare Link Specialist 5 you would get:

50.625% optimal
22.5% duration reduction
22.5% activation reduction

I believe this results in a optimal range of: 22593.75 metres, I think this is about right.

Hope this helps in your mining endeavours. Oh and if any of this is wrong please do correct but don't flame me.

Edit: Corrected some figures.

Edit2: Added mindlink.

Mara Rinn
Posted - 2010.01.17 23:40:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Mara Rinn on 17/01/2010 23:41:18
Yup, 22-point-something km is what I'm getting, similar setup to burnharder - Warfare Link Specialist, with Mining Foreman Mindlink. I'm in burnharder's camp - train up the skill and lap up the rewards.

The only thing I'm unsure of at this point is whether the warfare link specialist actually helps with other links (siege, skirmish, information, armoured), or if I have to train "siege warfare specialist" separately. I'm hoping it's the former, or else all this time flying an Orca has dulled my brain.

Patrice Macmahon
The Lost Minmatar Legion
Posted - 2010.01.18 00:47:00 - [8]
 

The Warfare link specialist only boosts the modules, your also gonna need the implant to make it worthwhile in your choosen field.

The only skills that directly affect leadership bonuses are the first tier ones, the rest only effect the specific modules you load up on you ship.

Aeris Bad'ia
Posted - 2010.01.18 03:20:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Aeris Bad''ia on 18/01/2010 03:21:37
Originally by: Fornicis

I believe this results in a optimal range of: 22593.75 metres, I think this is about right.
Edit2: Added mindlink.

Neg, my hulks get 23.8xx km with all level 5's and a mindlink
just to clarify, my final command bonus is 58.21875%

Porban
Posted - 2010.01.23 20:32:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Aeris Bad'ia
Edited by: Aeris Bad''ia on 18/01/2010 03:21:37

Neg, my hulks get 23.8xx km with all level 5's and a mindlink
just to clarify, my final command bonus is 58.21875%



How did you calculate the 58.21875%

Tau Cabalander
Posted - 2010.01.24 10:22:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 24/01/2010 10:23:00

Deja vu all over again : Orca Bonuses


Aeris Bad'ia
Posted - 2010.01.24 16:27:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Porban
Originally by: Aeris Bad'ia
Edited by: Aeris Bad''ia on 18/01/2010 03:21:37

Neg, my hulks get 23.8xx km with all level 5's and a mindlink
just to clarify, my final command bonus is 58.21875%



How did you calculate the 58.21875%


Right click -> show info on the Laser field enhancment link.

Jack Sabastian
Posted - 2010.02.06 01:38:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Porban
Originally by: Aeris Bad'ia
Edited by: Aeris Bad''ia on 18/01/2010 03:21:37

Neg, my hulks get 23.8xx km with all level 5's and a mindlink
just to clarify, my final command bonus is 58.21875%



How did you calculate the 58.21875%


When calcuating your bonus of 50.625% you forgot the Orca's 3% bonus to effectiveness of mining foreman gang links per level of Industreal Command Ship.

which at ICS V is 15%

So 50.625% * 1.15 = 58.21875%

Sep'Shoni
Gallente
Carpe Diem inc.
Posted - 2010.02.07 15:57:00 - [14]
 

I can't help on the bonus math, but getting your cycle time down beats upping your range as long as you know how to find good belts to mine in and imitate the macros by using pre-set bookmarks to efficiently cover the space.


 

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