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FunzzeR
Legion of the Scottish Fold
Posted - 2010.01.16 20:30:00 - [91]
 

Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Originally by: Danks
Forget High Sec, we need to get rid of faceless alts who can't be held accountable for the dribble that spews from their pie holes.
Inappropriate comments removed.StevieSG



People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.01.16 20:34:00 - [92]
 

Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 16/01/2010 20:34:56
Originally by: FunzzeR
Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Originally by: Danks
Forget High Sec, we need to get rid of faceless alts who can't be held accountable for the dribble that spews from their pie holes.
Inappropriate comments removed.StevieSG



People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
I need to explain things slower to you as you don't seem to immediately grasp things (or rather choose not to).

The gentleman you quoted me with is making a comment about me posting with a alt alt instead of an alt main (IE, still some toon on the internets). The funny thing is that your comment applies well for him, as he's the one crying about me posting with an alt toon as opposed to a "real" toon? Laughing

Gankers aren't very bright :\.


Yesh
Unjustified Ancients of MuMu
Posted - 2010.01.16 20:36:00 - [93]
 

There's a huge difference between posting with a main and risking looking silly ingame and posting your RL phone number and home address.

For one, the worst that can happen is you say something stupid on the forums with your main and someone might mock you in game when they see you.

If you post your RL number and address all sorts of nasty things could happen such as prank calls or putting dog poo through your letter box.

Your argument was pretty stupid. And I'm so sure that it was stupid that I have risked posting with my main.

On topic ... keep high sec

Danks
Caldari
Fat Angry Toe Tappin Inbreds
Posted - 2010.01.16 20:38:00 - [94]
 

Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Originally by: Danks
Forget High Sec, we need to get rid of faceless alts who can't be held accountable for the dribble that spews from their pie holes.
Inappropriate comments removed.StevieSG




That wooshing sound you just heard was my point going over your head.


MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.01.16 20:39:00 - [95]
 

Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 16/01/2010 20:42:44
You mean posting with a main doesn't reflect real life toughness? There are going to be lots of kiddies dissapointed in hearing that, especially since I'm a coward posting with an alt Rolling Eyes.

On topic: Hi sec is fine. What needs nerfing are crybaby gankers used to playing twitch games like Counterstrike and unable to realize Eve is a game which caters to all types of play styles. HTFU, gankers.


Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
Posted - 2010.01.16 20:43:00 - [96]
 

Only a complete moron would post on these forums with anything but an alt specifically made for that purpose.

There are a lot of complete morons in this game.

And for the complete morons that have to ask why I say that. Well, you are a complete moron and wouldn't understand the answer.

Mr Epeen Cool

Planks
Unjustified Ancients of MuMu
Posted - 2010.01.16 20:46:00 - [97]
 

Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Originally by: Danks
Forget High Sec, we need to get rid of faceless alts who can't be held accountable for the dribble that spews from their pie holes.
Laughing Inappropriate comments removed.StevieSG



Ha Ha ner nerny ner ner, MatrixSkye has made a fool of himself on the forums! Can't wait to hunt him down in game to point this out to him.

Maybe if he had used an alt to post I wouldn't bother to look him up in game to take the p*ss.

But by using his main to post he has proved to me that he is hardcore and willing to post his phone number and RL address here. After all, if you use your main you are tough enough to do this right? Rolling Eyes


Gimples
Posted - 2010.01.16 20:48:00 - [98]
 

Wonderfull, wonderfull drama.... Very HappyVery Happy

MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.01.16 20:49:00 - [99]
 

Posting with an alt is cowardly.

Posting with a main is being tough and hardcore.

I love ganker mantra Laughing

Keep it up with the tears! :P


Chipan Asty
Posted - 2010.01.16 20:52:00 - [100]
 

Edited by: Chipan Asty on 16/01/2010 20:58:40
Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Originally by: Danks
Forget High Sec, we need to get rid of faceless alts who can't be held accountable for the dribble that spews from their pie holes.
Inappropriate comments removed.StevieSG



Well go on then ... since you are using your main why not put your money where your mouth is. Let's have your RL address and phone number. No? You mains act tough on the internet but when you're faced with real life threats you go log into the internets to act out your frustrations on others

Oh yeah ... :P

EDIT ... made some errors ... thank god i used an alt for this

Joscelline Angreal
Posted - 2010.01.16 20:56:00 - [101]
 

People are probably willing to risk ships, but not implants. Make faction police punish low-sec pod-killers, and you'd see a few interesting changes. Make it be several RR NPC BS, with an AI like sleepers that respond to pod-kills.

It might become profitable for people to use cheap insurable fits to mission in low-sec, with ship losses expected and covered by increased profits. Plus, large smartbomb gatecamps, which aren't exactly the height of skilled PVP, would become comical as people tried to fight off the NPCs.

If younger mission runners could run missions in low-sec and feel relatively confident about not losing implants, they might actually give it a shot.

MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.01.16 21:04:00 - [102]
 

Originally by: Chipan Asty
Edited by: Chipan Asty on 16/01/2010 20:58:40
Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Originally by: Danks
Forget High Sec, we need to get rid of faceless alts who can't be held accountable for the dribble that spews from their pie holes.
Inappropriate comments removed.StevieSG



Well go on then ... since you are using your main why not put your money where your mouth is. Let's have your RL address and phone number. No? You mains act tough on the internet but when you're faced with real life threats you go log into the internets to act out your frustrations on others

Oh yeah ... :P

EDIT ... made some errors ... thank god i used an alt for this
Ummm,.you're a bit slow aren't ya :) A hardcore gangster who must be a tough guy in real life called me out for posting on an alt and he posting on his main. I think it's been established I'm a coward he's just gangsterly hardcore. And as such he'd obvioulsy have no problems in posting his real life information him being so tough and all in real life. You see, gankers think they're real life tough guys. Me? I'm a cowardly carebear because you know, I don't post with my "main toon". So if you're a tough guy ganker be a tough guy and post your real life information :) I'm sure you being tuff and all you'll do it :).

I like to hear the lo sec gankers stress how they're so tough and all but when they're called out their epeens just shrivel back like freightened turtles Laughing.

Anyway, I don't expect these self-professed tough guys to do it because in reality they're as "cowardly" as I am :) 'Nuff said, ookay?


Danks
Caldari
Fat Angry Toe Tappin Inbreds
Posted - 2010.01.16 21:12:00 - [103]
 

Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Originally by: Chipan Asty
Edited by: Chipan Asty on 16/01/2010 20:58:40
Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Originally by: Danks
Forget High Sec, we need to get rid of faceless alts who can't be held accountable for the dribble that spews from their pie holes.
Inappropriate comments removed.StevieSG



Well go on then ... since you are using your main why not put your money where your mouth is. Let's have your RL address and phone number. No? You mains act tough on the internet but when you're faced with real life threats you go log into the internets to act out your frustrations on others

Oh yeah ... :P

EDIT ... made some errors ... thank god i used an alt for this
Ummm,.you're a bit slow aren't ya :) A hardcore gangster who must be a tough guy in real life called me out for posting on an alt and he posting on his main. I think it's been established I'm a coward he's just gangsterly hardcore. And as such he'd obvioulsy have no problems in posting his real life information him being so tough and all in real life. You see, gankers think they're real life tough guys. Me? I'm a cowardly carebear because you know, I don't post with my "main toon". So if you're a tough guy ganker be a tough guy and post your real life information :) I'm sure you being tuff and all you'll do it :).

I like to hear the lo sec gankers stress how they're so tough and all but when they're called out their epeens just shrivel back like freightened turtles Laughing.

Anyway, I don't expect these self-professed tough guys to do it because in reality they're as "cowardly" as I am :) 'Nuff said, ookay?




Whoa, settle down slim. Have another twinky to dry your tears.


MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.01.16 21:40:00 - [104]
 

NO! I don't want a twinky! I want to cry like pirates do Crying or Very sad

Blackjack Turner
Caldari
State Protectorate
Posted - 2010.01.16 22:05:00 - [105]
 

I think if it were left up to the grief crowd, we'd have a game where NPC's made everything. You got points which you could spend on these cheap NPC items by killing another player. There'd be no miners, no industrialists and no one hauling. Everyone in this imaginary game would fly combat ships, and there'd be no safe places anywhere. Missions would generate a beacon, and anyone crazy enough to do a mission would have to fit for NPC and PVP.

Kind of like Darkfall in Space maybe?

I'll make it easy for you anti-carebears. Go play Darkfall here, same price as Eve and none of the stuff you hate so much: http://www.darkfallonline.com/index.html Evil or Very Mad


Thelma Todd
Posted - 2010.01.17 01:01:00 - [106]
 

This thread is so childish.

Please lock it.

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
Posted - 2010.01.17 03:02:00 - [107]
 

Originally by: Blackjack Turner


I think if it were left up to the grief crowd, we'd have a game where NPC's made everything. You got points which you could spend on these cheap NPC items by killing another player. There'd be no miners, no industrialists and no one hauling. Everyone in this imaginary game would fly combat ships, and there'd be no safe places anywhere. Missions would generate a beacon, and anyone crazy enough to do a mission would have to fit for NPC and PVP.




No! No! No!

Totally the opposite.

If it was up to the griefers, You would get your ships replaced for free and have an entire sector of space full of defenseless targets that are just waiting to be gan ...

Er...

Nevermind

Mr Epeen Cool


MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.01.17 03:11:00 - [108]
 

Laughing

On the other hand if there weren't any griefers my griefer-griefing alt would be out of a job Sad


Tesal
Posted - 2010.01.17 05:58:00 - [109]
 

Why not pirate factional warfare that affects sec status negatively and factional warfare players have another group to fight that affects sec status positively.

Shanitra Kerr
Posted - 2010.01.17 08:54:00 - [110]
 

Edited by: Shanitra Kerr on 17/01/2010 09:17:49
Edited by: Shanitra Kerr on 17/01/2010 09:12:10
Edited by: Shanitra Kerr on 17/01/2010 09:02:23
As all this is just "I want more targets! Enforce more targets!", here's my suggestion.

As long as I pay for the game, I want to be able to play it the way I want to play. And if I don't want PvP, I claim the right not to engage in PvP - nor to be engaged in PvP.
I'm keeping my side of that bargain by keeping out of your lowsec shooting range.

Now if you wish to enforce your game on me - hire me? Pay for my game if I should actually play for your amusement?
Meaning that each time I lose a ship to another player without initiating combat myself (there, you have it), the total loss - hull, modules, rigs, cargo, implants, contract penalties, everything - is detracted from my monthly PLEX bill.
With math like "You lost 30.000.000 ISK due to other players' actions. Here's your free day of gametime added. Play for free, as long as you get shot down by another player often enough!" - that would be bait I'm willing to go for.

Demolishar
Posted - 2010.01.17 14:59:00 - [111]
 

Originally by: Shanitra Kerr

Now if you wish to enforce your game on me - hire me? Pay for my game if I should actually play for your amusement?
Meaning that each time I lose a ship to another player without initiating combat myself (there, you have it), the total loss - hull, modules, rigs, cargo, implants, contract penalties, everything - is detracted from my monthly PLEX bill.
With math like "You lost 30.000.000 ISK due to other players' actions. Here's your free day of gametime added. Play for free, as long as you get shot down by another player often enough!" - that would be bait I'm willing to go for.



It's not as amusing if it doesnt cause you to lose isk and hopefully not be able to afford your PLEX and get forced out of the game.

Sister Tisiphone
Posted - 2010.01.17 17:37:00 - [112]
 

Originally by: Shanitra Kerr

As long as I pay for the game, I want to be able to play it the way I want to play. And if I don't want PvP, I claim the right not to engage in PvP - nor to be engaged in PvP.
I'm keeping my side of that bargain by keeping out of your lowsec shooting range.



This.

If the whole game went 0.0 (Which it won't - I'm pretty sure CCP is averse to bankruptcy) - I'd drop both my paid accounts. Not as a ragequit, simply because Eve would no longer be a game I want to play.

Sometimes, I wanna be a total carebear: Mine, trade, chat, sell, explore. Other times, I'm willing to go looking for trouble and probably (more than likely) lose yet another ship, but have fun in doing so - but it's my choice.

Take away a players' choice how to play and they'll take away their choice to pay :)

Danks
Caldari
Fat Angry Toe Tappin Inbreds
Posted - 2010.01.17 19:00:00 - [113]
 

Originally by: Shanitra Kerr
As long as I pay for the game, I want to be able to play it the way I want to play. And if I don't want PvP, I claim the right not to engage in PvP - nor to be engaged in PvP.
I'm keeping my side of that bargain by keeping out of your lowsec shooting range.



Of course this is your right, no one forces you to undock.


My Postman
Posted - 2010.01.18 14:35:00 - [114]
 

Before changing game systems i have a better idea for those who are too lazy to search for their preys.

When a noob subscribes and gets his noobship, he IMMEDIATLY has to go to the next low sec system, and has to jump between various existing gates for at least 3 times (if he survives).

He has to do it until he has decent skill points in gunnery, or relatet skills at which point he is NOT allowed to shoot back anymore, cause he might kill the pirate.

TL,DR: This must be a fail attempt to get more victims because of lazyness for searching. Go and gank defenseless miners in highsec like you always did!

Winterjack
Posted - 2010.01.18 15:13:00 - [115]
 

Edited by: Winterjack on 18/01/2010 15:19:42
Originally by: Shanitra Kerr
As all this is just "I want more targets! Enforce more targets!"


That's what it boils down to it. Of course you have to take away all the "my dad could kill your dad" idiocy.
But there's also some interesting ideas.

Midsec is an interesting idea. Pirates policying gankers is one.

Quote:
As long as I pay for the game, I want to be able to play it the way I want to play. And if I don't want PvP, I claim the right not to engage in PvP - nor to be engaged in PvP.


IF you accept some reasonable risk like some chance of suigank in hisec, I agree. Reasonable risk is ok.

I'd compare hisec to your average town, losec to a hi-crime gang-ruled perifery, and nullsec to an enclave in the amazon forest or something like that - where the locals make the rules.

Quote:
With math like "You lost 30.000.000 ISK due to other players' actions. Here's your free day of gametime added. Play for free, as long as you get shot down by another player often enough!" - that would be bait I'm willing to go for.


LOL. Well I vote for this :)

Problem is some of these griefers aren't in for the fighting. They're in for free targets. They want to gank "bears" because they are not a threat - they'd have plenty of PvP occasions if they wanted to FIGHT.

Shanitra Kerr
Posted - 2010.01.19 06:59:00 - [116]
 

Edited by: Shanitra Kerr on 19/01/2010 07:01:02
Originally by: Winterjack

I'd compare hisec to your average town, losec to a hi-crime gang-ruled perifery, and nullsec to an enclave in the amazon forest or something like that - where the locals make the rules.


Well, to stay in that analogy: with the OP's suggestion to lock your average town's police force up in the shopping mall and leave the gangs to roam free everywhere else, companies will close their factories, shops will close, and everybody will move to another town.
EVE ain't Mogadishu. Yet.

Winterjack
Posted - 2010.01.19 08:55:00 - [117]
 

Originally by: Shanitra Kerr
Well, to stay in that analogy: with the OP's suggestion to lock your average town's police force up in the shopping mall and leave the gangs to roam free everywhere else, companies will close their factories, shops will close, and everybody will move to another town.


Yeah I mostly agree. The "police" is quite efficient right now (tho it does not prevent crime, it does deter it). The OP is a member of a gang, and of course he wants gang-rule to spread.

Quote:
EVE ain't Mogadishu. Yet.


LOL. QFT.

Ophelia Ursus
Posted - 2010.01.19 10:15:00 - [118]
 

Edited by: Ophelia Ursus on 19/01/2010 10:17:04
Ditch highsec altogether? No. Remove all highsec routes connecting the space of one Empire to that of its enemies? Yes, absolutely.


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