Posted - 2010.01.15 01:08:00 - [3]

 

I do seriously hope that everybody reads the news, and checks on the forums, at least once a month, or week!

I actually don't know about the news... Whether they are translated, or localized. I run English clients.

Posted - 2010.01.15 01:47:00 - [5]

 

Originally by: Merouk Baas

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Edited by: Merouk Baas on 15/01/2010 01:19:30


Actually, the majority of the player base probably doesn't read the forums and didn't know about the Hulkageddon. I.E. it's not as big as you'd like.

Anyway, you could peruse through past Economic Newsletters to find out the total number of Hulk/Barge/Orca pilots, and compare that to the 1564 that were killed. You could also look at the market history data for these ships to see if sales jumped up in any noticable way due to all these pilots having to replace their ships.

Probably not.

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Considering they only targeted Empire Systems, it's pretty big.

Remember, most mining happens in 0.0, where miners already take precautions in order to mine, in the first place.
And yes, Hulk Prices Spiked in Jita for the last 5 (of the 7) days, that's even very obvious on the charts.

Posted - 2010.01.15 02:36:00 - [7]

 

Originally by: Queen Athena

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Here is the problem with your line of thinking. So, 1500 ships were killed... there are an estimated 10k exhumers on a day (source, guesstimate). So for the whole week, one had a fraction of a percent chance of dying in this event.

Now look at 1 days worth of Mackinaw Ice mining at the conservative 400isk per isotope:

Assuming Exhumer IV and Ice Harvesting V and 21hours macro mining:
Mackinaw (375 cycle, 3 cycles per cargohold, 3minutes between cycles) ~58 trips @ 12 ice each = 696 ice or 87mil isk
Mackinaw W/AFK Orca [email protected]% (280.5 cycle, 3cycles per cargohold, 3 minutes between cycle) ~74 trips @ 12 ice = 888 ice or 111mil isk

Now, a lightly fitted mackinaw, with cargo rigs and T2 Ice Harvesters is less than 150mil isk even with the new prices... You would have to of lost 3 mackinaws in example A, and 5 mackinaws in example B to have lost isk this week if you are Macro Suck-Ball scum.

Just saying

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You are right, it is hard to reason with "Macro Suck-Ball scum".
They are in it for the RL cash, and it sux, we can't do anything about them, other than encourage more Hulkageddons, and staying out of the line of fire.

But it doesn't change the fact that I hate them for it, and I still think that each and every miner that died this week is a MORON.

Posted - 2010.01.15 04:40:00 - [9]

 

Something tells me Hulkaggeden will continue on a few days after the contest officially ends.

Posted - 2010.01.15 09:37:00 - [11]

 

1220 exhumers are just a drop in the sea. Stuff happens this is eve. So take your medicine and move on m8. Ofc it sucks to be blown up in your exhumer, but with current insurance even mining in Osprey would not make you utterly unprofitable to gank. It's not like as a miner in the belt you can do alot about it. Even if you are all altertness and stressed all it takes is one frigate bumping you until gank arrives and kills you.

Posted - 2010.01.15 10:38:00 - [13]

 

Originally by: Serpents smile

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I think its more a stick head in sand attitude, -> it won't happen to me. They may gank others but not me.

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That was my attitude and I was correct.

Posted - 2010.01.15 11:26:00 - [15]

 

Originally by: Big Badaboom

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I do seriously hope that everybody reads the news, and checks on the forums, at least once a month, or week!

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.............why? The "news" is a joke. And the forums are a joke.

Seems like a waste of time. Unless you're bored at work, why ****ing bother.

Posted - 2010.01.15 11:46:00 - [17]

 

I only knew of one person who lost a ship to this event. I saw nothing, and was mining in my hulk all through the event, On the note of insurence, I should take some out :P

Posted - 2010.01.15 12:52:00 - [19]

 

Must be missing something, where do you get the figures from?

Posted - 2010.01.15 13:56:00 - [21]

 

Originally by: Winterjack

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If you don't read news, you don't read forums, you don't watch locals, and you fail to wonder why people are not mining anymore... well. Whose fault is that?

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Y'know, in other games, not visiting the forums or reading any of the news updates really isn't a big deal. You don't find WoW players checking anything other than thotbot or other in-game resource pages. EVE, however, has dozens of secondary resource pages that specifically monitor in-game activity.

Ultimately, it's because of the nature of those two beasts, I guess. WoW, CoH and other "Theme-Park" games just don't require checking up on by the individual player. They know that no matter when they log in, the game will be, essentially, the same as it was when they last logged out. In a game like EVE, however, you can't do that. You HAVE to keep up with what's going on because the only things that "go on" are things done by players.

In a "theme-park" game, you can totally get away with not visiting the forums, it's ultimately very understandable, and almost nothing you miss on the forums will be anythign severe. In fact, most theme-park games send an email to the playerbase when there's a major change, and any and all major changes are a result of the developers.

In EVE, not doing your homework is an unforgiveable offense. If you're going to do well, you need to know the landscape, and anyone who's played the game longer than about a week should know this. If an event is announced and you're not aware of it because you didn't do your homework, then any negative consequences you suffer are your own fault. Don't like it? Then maybe EVE isn't the game for you... In fact, maybe sandbox games in general aren't for you.

Posted - 2010.01.15 23:18:00 - [23]

 

And a salute for the 700k-800k or so units of Technetium that bravely gave their life for t3h lulz

Posted - 2010.01.15 23:22:00 - [25]

 

Actually if you want CCP to fix the mining career, you should ask for mining improvements. Anything to get rid of the boredom of it and improve the yield would be nice.

I'd have no problem with huge cargoholds on the mining ships, and some sort of metagame to keep you there; heck, tetris, the better you are the more ore your lasers pull in.

Posted - 2010.01.15 23:37:00 - [27]

 

Originally by: Germaldi's sister

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Edited by: Germaldi''s sister on 15/01/2010 23:30:59
suicide ganking attempts wouldnt bother me except for the fact t1 mining barges have no way to defend themselves against a smartbombing bs.

lets up the anti and have concord POD KILL suicide gankers

add some risk to gankers.

t1 barges should be able to tank as good as a t1 cruiser

t2 barges should be able to tank as good as a t1 bc

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Retriever: 6k EHPs against EM, Covetor 13k EHPs against EM. A volley of smartbombs does 2400 damage. Granted, it'll cost you the mining upgrades and needs some rigs, but they are far from defenseless.

Posted - 2010.01.16 00:00:00 - [29]

 

Originally by: Mistress Servelan

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Originally by: Big Badaboom

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I do seriously hope that everybody reads the news, and checks on the forums, at least once a month, or week!

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.............why? The "news" is a joke. And the forums are a joke.

Seems like a waste of time. Unless you're bored at work, why ****ing bother.

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Because, if you don't, you sound dumb when people ask you about major events that you had no clue about
Because, if you don't, you undock and THEN realize that SOV changed, the outpost was taken, and you can't dock again
Because, if you don't, you download and run a patch, reboot "just to make sure", and your computer won't boot again
Because, if you don't, you start whining and cry "cheaters" in local, about something that was a legitimate change/fix
Because, if you don't, you waste weeks on training useless skills to level V, even after the prereqs for the skill you wanted, was reduced to IV

My suggestion, be smart, and check the news and forums ;)