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Falafel King
Posted - 2010.01.13 04:31:00 - [1]
 

I had finished killing all the rats in my mission complex in dodixie and decided to take out the npc structures as well to see if anything would drop. I didn't want to waste any more torps so I parked my golem at 0 to the first one and let my smartbomb do the work while I went into the kitchen to make some hot pockets.

Long story short when I got back I was in a pod and I saw for a second or two another pilot warping away. my wreck and all my stuff was gone and there was also some concord in the area. I figured I had been suicided like they do with hulks but I had my tank running so I was surprised that they had killed me that fast cleaned up all the wrecks and got away in the few minutes I was away.

To my surprise though my loss mail said that concord had killed me instead. Is there some kind of exploit the guy warping out used that I haven't heard about or has concord just gone rouge on us mission runners?

Needless to say I have petitioned the loss as an exploit since concord had no reason to kill me.

Isurus Paucus
Posted - 2010.01.13 04:34:00 - [2]
 

Don't use smartbombs in high sec. I cruise up and you hit me on accident: say hello to Concord. Easy loot for me!

RutilusUnus
Posted - 2010.01.13 04:35:00 - [3]
 

If you use smartbombs in highsec and hit any other person around you at all you will get concorded.

Falafel King
Posted - 2010.01.13 04:38:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Isurus Paucus
Don't use smartbombs in high sec. I cruise up and you hit me on accident: say hello to Concord. Easy loot for me!
Oh ok so one of them mission salvaging bast**** got to close to me. Grrrrrr

Why should you even be able to get into my mission complex? I did the work that got the agent to give the mission. It should be private to me and my fleet members.

xXThe BossXx
Posted - 2010.01.13 04:39:00 - [5]
 

very expensive lesson learnedVery Happy

Isurus Paucus
Posted - 2010.01.13 04:40:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Falafel King
Why should you even be able to get into my mission complex? I did the work that got the agent to give the mission. It should be private to me and my fleet members.
That is not how this game is designed or intended. Eve is intentionally built to not limit player interaction by artificial means. It's up to you to protect your turf. (Put your flame-suit on. Everyone from this point on will say "GB2WOW" or something along those lines.)

Bhattran
Posted - 2010.01.13 05:04:00 - [7]
 

2/10

You fly a golem, trained for it, and never learned about smarbombs in highsec, let alone not to let them fire while you go afk?

Not buying it.

Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
Posted - 2010.01.13 05:05:00 - [8]
 

You got CONCORD'ed because you are a fool. Stop afk smart bombing, problem solved.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.01.13 06:15:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Falafel King
Why should you even be able to get into my mission complex?
To steal your stuff.
To shoot your ship.
To salvage the wrecks you create.
To mine the asteroids in some missions.

And, obviously, to make you CONCORDOKEN yourself, as you just noticed.

Plenty of reasons in other words.

Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari
Sane Industries Inc.
Posted - 2010.01.13 06:50:00 - [10]
 

I guess this is the part where we laugh at the OP and tell him to stop filling the petition queue with drivel?

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.01.13 06:55:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
I guess this is the part where we laugh at the OP and tell him to stop filling the petition queue with drivel?
Good point. I didn't even notice that. Yes.

OP: Stop clogging up the petition queue! It's not an exploit and CONCORD had plenty of reason to kill you.

Zartanic
Posted - 2010.01.13 06:56:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Zartanic on 13/01/2010 06:56:55
Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
I guess this is the part where we laugh at the OP and tell him to stop filling the petition queue with drivel?


The scary bit is that he had a Golem?

He didn't know smart bombs are area affect?
He didn't know that would mean anyone could be hit by it and that would mean Concord in Hi sec?
He didn't know anyone could fly to his space if he was scanned?
He has not heard of ninja salvagers?

That's what happens when you buy an account I suppose. I love the way this game will not allow you to buy your way out of ignorance.

Lady Aja
Posted - 2010.01.13 07:01:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Lady Aja on 13/01/2010 07:04:19
Originally by: Falafel King
I had finished killing all the rats in my mission complex in dodixie and decided to take out the npc structures as well to see if anything would drop. I didn't want to waste any more torps so I parked my golem at 0 to the first one and let my smartbomb do the work while I went into the kitchen to make some hot pockets.


I double face palmed right here...

Originally by: Falafel King
Long story short when I got back I was in a pod and I saw for a second or two another pilot warping away. my wreck and all my stuff was gone and there was also some concord in the area. I figured I had been suicided like they do with hulks but I had my tank running so I was surprised that they had killed me that fast cleaned up all the wrecks and got away in the few minutes I was away.


rolled my eyes at this

Originally by: Falafel King
To my surprise though my loss mail said that concord had killed me instead. Is there some kind of exploit the guy warping out used that I haven't heard about or has concord just gone rouge on us mission runners?


had the same expression on my face as a cow looking at a oncomming train

Originally by: Falafel King
Needless to say I have petitioned the loss as an exploit since concord had no reason to kill me.


sighed right here.

It's NOT an eaploit if the operator ( you the OP )is thicker than pig ****.

Edit : yeah prolly a troll..

Zifrian
Deep Space Innovations
Posted - 2010.01.13 07:18:00 - [14]
 

You didn't read the message that popped up?

Should be a no brainer though that an non-targeted area effect weapon would get you a concord response if you hit a player or anything else on accident.

Plus you are in Dodixie, never seen a ninja salvager before?

I'm sliding towards the "not buying it" either.

Pesets
The Hunt Club
Posted - 2010.01.13 07:25:00 - [15]
 

Fun part is that even if no one is around, attacking some mission structures (including those little "beacons") seems to trigger concord response as well.

Zifrian
Deep Space Innovations
Posted - 2010.01.13 07:29:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Pesets
Fun part is that even if no one is around, attacking some mission structures (including those little "beacons") seems to trigger concord response as well.


I just remembered that you can't activate a smartbomb near a structure, beacon or larger collidable structure. I'm not sure about asteroids.

But in any case, no brainer on this one.

Ceraci
The Scope
Posted - 2010.01.13 07:52:00 - [17]
 

troollll

Nareg Maxence
Gallente
Posted - 2010.01.13 08:19:00 - [18]
 

This is a pretty good story. Entertaining. I give it three Velators out of five.

Furb Killer
Gallente
Posted - 2010.01.13 08:20:00 - [19]
 

Luckily for him he probably gets his golem back (minus what dropped) since i am pretty sure it isnt allowed to intentionally get within SB range to let concord kill him.

That said using SBs in high sec is just bad idea.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.01.13 08:22:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Furb Killer
Luckily for him he probably gets his golem back (minus what dropped) since i am pretty sure it isnt allowed to intentionally get within SB range to let concord kill him.
Why wouldn't it be?

Abrazzar
Posted - 2010.01.13 08:25:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Abrazzar on 13/01/2010 08:28:02
Originally by: Zifrian
Originally by: Pesets
Fun part is that even if no one is around, attacking some mission structures (including those little "beacons") seems to trigger concord response as well.


I just remembered that you can't activate a smartbomb near a structure, beacon or larger collidable structure. I'm not sure about asteroids.

Those don't receive damage from smartbombs since ages. Smartbombs in missions are only an issue when another player comes in. Everything else in the mission is free to bomb.

Edit: BTW, the mission area is owned by the faction with sovereignty in the system and claim jumped by the faction the mission is against. The mission runner only has dibs on the intact loot, nothing else.

Boomershoot
Caldari
Suddenly Ninjas
Posted - 2010.01.13 08:29:00 - [22]
 

7/10, should be standardized.

Serpents smile
Posted - 2010.01.13 08:42:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Furb Killer
Luckily for him he probably gets his golem back (minus what dropped) since i am pretty sure it isnt allowed to intentionally get within SB range to let concord kill him.



OMG.... so you're the new owner of this character, ey?
I mean the original furb would never make such a dumb assessment.

Its like saying flipping cans in high-sec. isn't allowed to intentionally get a kill right when the original owner flips his stuff back.
Come on, use your head. Rolling Eyes

Furb Killer
Gallente
Posted - 2010.01.13 09:08:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: Furb Killer on 13/01/2010 09:09:17
Quote:
I mean the original furb would never make such a dumb assessment

Considering i am still the original owner, thanks, i think.

However this isnt really about my opinion (which is that both are dumb, SB'ing in high sec and intentionally flying into them), it is just what I *think* that i read somewhere from GMs.

Although knowing GMs it probably depends quite a bit how fluffy the GM is and how his mood is.

Trading Jones
Posted - 2010.01.13 09:28:00 - [25]
 

Not sure wether this applies in your case, but...

Sent a petition a long time ago, asking wether it was a legal tactic to warp to a mission runner, cloak and wait for him to activate his smarties. The response I got was that it would be an exploit.

Now - with you gone and in the kitchen... Hard to argue that was what happened - don't think it would show up in any logs, so think you're up for an expensive lesson.

Tuttomenui II
Gallente
The Eloria Corporation
Posted - 2010.01.13 09:37:00 - [26]
 

How are you flying a Golem, and not knowing this stuff? Its noob lessons 101. Did you not get a warning when you tried to activate the smart bombs?

Giediprime
Caldari
Destined For Glory
Posted - 2010.01.13 09:38:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Giediprime on 13/01/2010 09:38:47
Eeeuhhh....drones might have done the job just as easily, and a lot cheaper Laughing

Ma'Kahn
Posted - 2010.01.13 09:47:00 - [28]
 

It's not like you need a damn doctorate to fly a Golem. Yeah he flies one, SBed himself, learned the lesson. Get over it.

Milana Arkani
Caldari
Strategic Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2010.01.13 09:54:00 - [29]
 

Original poster asks a simple, honest question. (Perhaps a noob question. But so what. No big deal.)

He is then immediately met with a dozen angry flamers who berate him and (ironically) call him a troll.

WTF...

Many of you angry, nasty, bitter EVE citizens really need to get a life.

Regards,
Milana Arkani


Jowen Datloran
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2010.01.13 09:57:00 - [30]
 

Edited by: Jowen Datloran on 13/01/2010 09:58:17
None of this never actually happened.

The OP is a troll, and apparently a pretty good one considering the amount of response he is able to attract.

7/10

"so I parked my golem..." yeah, right Rolling Eyes


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