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Lionden
Posted - 2010.01.12 14:37:00 - [1]
 

Hey I have just upgraded to a Retriever and have no idea what to fit it with. I was planning
2xModulated Strip Miner II
1x Survey Scanner II

But not sure for the rest.

I will be using an alt/giant secure container. and it will be in 0.5-0.6 sec, maybe higher.

Thanks

ingenting
Garoun Investment Bank
Posted - 2010.01.12 18:17:00 - [2]
 

mining laser upgrade II, and a co-processor if you dont have enough CPU for that

Tau Cabalander
Posted - 2010.01.12 20:37:00 - [3]
 

Personally I'd recommend a small shield booster in the mid, as rats can hurt before your drones have dispatched them.

Since you can't really beef-up the tank of a Retriever, go for cargo. I wouldn't rig it as it is so paper-thin.

[Retriever, Basic]
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

Small Shield Booster II

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II


Deckington Forgecaster
Posted - 2010.01.12 22:19:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Deckington Forgecaster on 12/01/2010 22:21:33
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Bang Brother
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2010.01.12 22:47:00 - [5]
 

Quote:
mining laser upgrade II, and a co-processor if you dont have enough CPU for that



My electronics is IV and Electronics Upgrades is III. I just had enough to fit the above but with MLU I with co-proc I. I must admit, I miss the Expanded Cargohold II's, but it fills up fast if you wish to risk jetcanning or if you have a hauler.
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http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/EFT
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This helped test fit things according to my skills, without wasting ISK on equipment.
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Lionden
Posted - 2010.01.12 23:30:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Lionden on 12/01/2010 23:34:58
Edited by: Lionden on 12/01/2010 23:31:16
Originally by: ingenting
mining laser upgrade II, and a co-processor if you dont have enough CPU for that


Hrmm, Even with All Level V and a 12% co-processor I don't have the CPU for it.


Originally by: Tau Cabalander
Personally I'd recommend a small shield booster in the mid, as rats can hurt before your drones have dispatched them.

Since you can't really beef-up the tank of a Retriever, go for cargo. I wouldn't rig it as it is so paper-thin.

[Retriever, Basic]
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

Small Shield Booster II

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II




Should I go with the Shield booster over the Scanner? I shouldn't need the extra cargo since I will be hauling with an alt and will be using containers.


Originally by: Deckington Forgecaster
Edited by: Deckington Forgecaster on 12/01/2010 22:21:33
All the answers you need and lots of future ones are all in here Cool

Linkage

Not my guide btw but its excellent


Heh, so many pages, but I'll give it a read.

Originally by: Bang Brother
Quote:
mining laser upgrade II, and a co-processor if you dont have enough CPU for that



My electronics is IV and Electronics Upgrades is III. I just had enough to fit the above but with MLU I with co-proc I. I must admit, I miss the Expanded Cargohold II's, but it fills up fast if you wish to risk jetcanning or if you have a hauler.
_
http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/EFT
_
This helped test fit things according to my skills, without wasting ISK on equipment.
Get it here: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=548883&page=1
Don't be an Ore slave and have fun! Very Happy


Ya, I've been using EFT, but since I'm still new I don't know what I should be going for and what is more useful than somethig else. Just confusing myself

Thanks everyone


edit - what about drones and rigs?

Bang Brother
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2010.01.13 00:47:00 - [7]
 

Quote:
what about drones and rigs?


For me, I'm still using either Hobgoblin 1's or Mining Drone 1's. I've been trying to get to the Exhumers as soon as possible, so my drone capability is limited. Do what you want to do.
When I'm in 0.8 or higher, the miners punch in. If I'm canning in 0.7 or lower, my scout drones help take care of the rats. Try to have at least three.(This is dependant upon your skill training for drones of course).

I compensated for the lack of cargo space with the MLU setup by outfitting with cargo expansion rigging 1 (Again my rigging is also limited). These are pricey and as someone else has already mentioned, it's pretty thin on armor so if you lose the barge it can be a very expensive loss. By the time you have skills high enough for more expensive rigging, you'll probably be planning to put that into a Covetor or even the Hulk. Check for any other input from the others here as I have only played with the cargo rigs so far. Good Luck

Lionden
Posted - 2010.01.13 06:12:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Bang Brother
Quote:
what about drones and rigs?


For me, I'm still using either Hobgoblin 1's or Mining Drone 1's. I've been trying to get to the Exhumers as soon as possible, so my drone capability is limited. Do what you want to do.
When I'm in 0.8 or higher, the miners punch in. If I'm canning in 0.7 or lower, my scout drones help take care of the rats. Try to have at least three.(This is dependant upon your skill training for drones of course).

I compensated for the lack of cargo space with the MLU setup by outfitting with cargo expansion rigging 1 (Again my rigging is also limited). These are pricey and as someone else has already mentioned, it's pretty thin on armor so if you lose the barge it can be a very expensive loss. By the time you have skills high enough for more expensive rigging, you'll probably be planning to put that into a Covetor or even the Hulk. Check for any other input from the others here as I have only played with the cargo rigs so far. Good Luck


Alright, I'll look into those and I'll make sure to get some decent armor.

Thanks everyone

Zifrian
Deep Space Innovations
Posted - 2010.01.13 08:04:00 - [9]
 

You won't need the shield booster if you are paying attention.

Plus, you won't have room for mining drones and hobs.

If you are in 1.0 or 0.9, use mining drones. If not, use hobs. In both places, use a survey scanner. You'll be able to mine more efficiently with that.

My Postman
Posted - 2010.01.13 11:36:00 - [10]
 

As Zifrian said.

There is no need for Expanded Cargohold when an alt is there to haul from a jetcan (or GSC). Fitting a second MLU is near to impossibe (if ever possible?) only with perfect skills. Better put in a Damage Control II if rat action is going nasty it will surely help.

Shield Extender vs. Scanning Array, ok i go for the rock scanner as a retriever is paper-thin and wonŽt withstand ANY ganking attempt, and thats why i didŽnt use rigs as well when using a retriever.

A full flight (or as many as you can depending on your drone skills) of hobgoblins is a must for the rats, so forget the mining drones. Using hobos I is enough for the rats, they are cheap and wonŽt hurt you much if you have to run, leaving your drones behind.

Koldosa
Posted - 2010.01.13 12:32:00 - [11]
 

Oh for god's sake, its a retriever. it only has 5 slots. you figure it out!

Commander Shipping
Posted - 2010.01.13 13:01:00 - [12]
 

Hi!

I have used a retriever for a long time now ( high sec only ), and here is what works best for me ( maxed mining output, i have an alt on industrial with a single long range turret against rats ):

2 x Modulated Strip Miner II
1 x Survey Scanner II

3 x Mining Drone Rigs

5 x Mining Drones

Fit whatever you like in lows imo, i use 1 x CPU upgrade and 1 x Cargohold exp. II . T2 MLU is impossible to fit on a retriever as far as it goes for me, might be possible with some implants? Idk. ( if one has so many SP invested in other skills, that it makes it possible to fit a laser upgrade - one most likely have a hulk anyways)

I have never lost my shields to rats in high sec, so no need to fit any shield upgrades ( i have almost no skills in shields/armor btw ) If a human wants to destroy your barge - shields will not help.

It costs a bit to buy them drone rigs, and they give only very little bonus, but it DOES make a difference when you are mining a lot.


ingenting
Garoun Investment Bank
Posted - 2010.01.13 14:52:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Lionden
Originally by: ingenting
mining laser upgrade II, and a co-processor if you dont have enough CPU for that


Hrmm, Even with All Level V and a 12% co-processor I don't have the CPU for it.
try T2

Originally by: Lionden
edit - what about drones and rigs?
rigs are a waste of money on a retriever.

0.8-1.0 mining drones
0.5-0.7 hobgoblin I's

RenCairn
Posted - 2010.01.14 01:48:00 - [14]
 

I fly a Retriever and have done for quite a while. This is what works for me:
2x MSMII with TII crystals
1x Survey Scanner II
2x Expanded Cargohold II
3x Medium Cargohold Optomisation I
3x Hobgoblin I
1x Hammerhead I.

I mine in sec 0.6-5 all the time and dont have a problem with rats.
Incidently, I got this ship at auction fitted out like this, minus the drones and crystals. Cant remeber how much I paid exactly but it worked out I got the rigs for free, there are bargains out there!
So long as you keep your wits about you and keep away from below sec 0.5 youŽll be fine with this set up.
One more tip, when you get to a belt, always align to a station and launch your drones.
Good luck with your new Retriever and enjoy the extra ISK it will bring Very Happy

Lionden
Posted - 2010.01.14 06:00:00 - [15]
 

Alright thanks everyone, that is all the info I needed.

Appreciate all the help and replies, off to mine now heh. Thanks again Smile

Chakarr
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2010.01.19 13:21:00 - [16]
 

I like an extender setup, you will need engineering V and shield upgrade IV though (with V you can fit a TII extender I think)...doesn't use cap and is plenty of buffer for highsec rats. Cool

[Retriever, Highsec Miner]
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

Medium Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I

Strip Miner I
Strip Miner I

Rigs Optional (I use Expanders)

Warrior II x5


 

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