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Miss Deana
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2010.01.10 02:09:00 - [91]
 

Originally by: Varesk
so none of you checked the station after the attack to see if it repaired itself before the station and system was taken over?

just wondering, because if someone would have taken the time to check it, you could have filed a petition and had it fixed.


From what I've understood of this the station was untargetable before the placement of the SBU, it was working as per the old system before the rep change. When the SBU was placed it worked according to the new system and had not been repped so it could be taken.

WI or the aggressors could thus not know of this until the actual attack took place and it was then easy to take as WI was counting on a few more invulnerability timers for defense.

Funkcikle
Gallente
DEATHFUNK
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2010.01.10 02:41:00 - [92]
 

yup, thanks very much ccp atlas from everyone here in atlas, giving us our ships back when we exploded was just the icing on the cake, heres to more exploit drivenj victorys against the pvp powerhouse that Is WI, we coudn't have done it without you guys.

Still its far from over, these guys have epic amounts of forum power, and as well all know thats a strong indicator of ingame pvp power, so as its all out in the open now if you could fix it for all their ships to become horrible mismatched t1 half sniper half rr fits, and swap out every 4th ship for something totally useless, whilst supergluing the Mighty WI capfleet to their hanger floors we might just stand a chance.

Oh also could u fix it for us to have a system called 4cums because i find that sort of thing hilarious

Luv Funk

Trebor Notlimah
Gallente
Lone Star EVE Group
Veni Vidi Vici Alliance
Posted - 2010.01.10 03:59:00 - [93]
 

Originally by: Greg DaimYo
Jesus Christ. I am out of this ****.

I don't care wether CCP will continue to rip off customers, but this **** is sick.

Have fun throwing money out of your window. o/



Stop trying to be a martyr. It wont work. Its going to take an organized subscriber strike to make a difference. Come on NC, go on strike and hurt CCP's wallet. We can all go play something else for a month. 10,000 unsubscriptions = Loss of $150,000/month. COME ONE!

NightmareX
Caldari
Nomads
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2010.01.10 05:15:00 - [94]
 

Edited by: NightmareX on 10/01/2010 05:28:11
Originally by: darkfuntime
Originally by: NightmareX
Edited by: NightmareX on 10/01/2010 04:51:12
Originally by: darkfuntime
page five,ccps still sucking

LOL, i think you sucks more, because this is not page 5Laughing.

And also, cry me a river WI / NC. Do you really know how fun it is to watch all of your whines and all of the crying on CAOD from you guys?.



Just a preview for page 5Wink

LOL, good reply back though, i must admit that.

But anyways. I don't think this kind of topic is a good way to make your alliance look good though.

Crying like the op in this topic means one thing. Weakness all over the alliance. Yes i say weakness to WI because i think most of the players that are or have been in 0.0 space have been killed by bugs and all other stupid things like that many times and never have got anything back from CCP.

I was once killed in my Hurricane in 0.0 space like a year or so ago when i was shooting one Deimos. The Deimos tanked the whole fleet i was in, and while he was tanking us, then 7 other ships warped in on us to kill us, and they did that.

But there was one problem. I did only see the Deimos. I just started to take some crazy amount of damage. And it was because the 7 other ships that warped in on us started to shoot me.

And i did only see the Deimos. So yes, i was desynched to hell and back. So no, i didn't got anything back from the petition.

And guess what. Yes CCP admitted it earlier that there was a problem on their side that caused alot of desync.

See where i'm going nowVery Happy ?.

dracice
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2010.01.10 05:16:00 - [95]
 

wow people complaining about ccp customer service,
(which actually doesn't exist)

but only complaining when it affects them.

no one cares. Yes CCP sucks, they admit too.

eve will go on without 0.0 and without you.

probably ccp's way of telling you to go outside and enjoy sunshine or sledding or whatever.

im in the tropics so sunshine for me.

Alice Pink
Amarr
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.01.10 05:48:00 - [96]
 

Originally by: NightmareX
...


You make a good point about individual petitions. Unfortunately it seems that when the game is broken on a larger scale, the only way to get CCP to take action is to name and shame (see ITs thread just a few weeks ago that got IHub exploiting...called an exploit).

I like fights. I've enjoyed beating back the Solar/Atlas incursions, both before and after Dominion. That's not what this thread is about.

NightmareX
Caldari
Nomads
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2010.01.10 06:05:00 - [97]
 

Originally by: Alice Pink
Originally by: NightmareX
...


You make a good point about individual petitions. Unfortunately it seems that when the game is broken on a larger scale, the only way to get CCP to take action is to name and shame (see ITs thread just a few weeks ago that got IHub exploiting...called an exploit).

I like fights. I've enjoyed beating back the Solar/Atlas incursions, both before and after Dominion. That's not what this thread is about.

Like the game wasn't more broken earlier when we all had the desync problem. I know this and i'm sure you know that to, but there was TONS of TONS of topics about desync and that here on the forum earlier from angry pilots who have lost ships after ships to desync. But CCP never did anything to give the ships back to the players who have died to desync.

So before CCP admit anything that there was something faulty on their side, you can just forget it to get anything back. And when they finally admit it eventually, then it have gone 6 months++++ and you wont get the ships or anything else back that you lost over 6 months earlier.

Crying on the forum like the OP in this topic, WONT help much. Because if there is a problem, then CCP will know about it from others who have sent petitions and so on. So it doesn't really help much to cry on the forum.

Just send them petitions about what really happened and explain in details on what you did and so on, and why you think it's a bug. And then CCP will look into it when they feel for it. They wont look into this any faster just because someone is crying in CAOD.

Nikodiemus
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2010.01.10 06:06:00 - [98]
 

Originally by: NightmareX
Edited by: NightmareX on 10/01/2010 05:28:11
Originally by: darkfuntime
Originally by: NightmareX
Edited by: NightmareX on 10/01/2010 04:51:12
Originally by: darkfuntime
page five,ccps still sucking

LOL, i think you sucks more, because this is not page 5Laughing.

And also, cry me a river WI / NC. Do you really know how fun it is to watch all of your whines and all of the crying on CAOD from you guys?.



Just a preview for page 5Wink

LOL, good reply back though, i must admit that.

But anyways. I don't think this kind of topic is a good way to make your alliance look good though.

Crying like the op in this topic means one thing. Weakness all over the alliance. Yes i say weakness to WI because i think most of the players that are or have been in 0.0 space have been killed by bugs and all other stupid things like that many times and never have got anything back from CCP.

I was once killed in my Hurricane in 0.0 space like a year or so ago when i was shooting one Deimos. The Deimos tanked the whole fleet i was in, and while he was tanking us, then 7 other ships warped in on us to kill us, and they did that.

But there was one problem. I did only see the Deimos. I just started to take some crazy amount of damage. And it was because the 7 other ships that warped in on us started to shoot me.

And i did only see the Deimos. So yes, i was desynched to hell and back. So no, i didn't got anything back from the petition.

And guess what. Yes CCP admitted it earlier that there was a problem on their side that caused alot of desync.


See where i'm going nowVery Happy ?.


I totally concur that your loss of a hurricane as a result of lag and desync is absolutely comparable to outpost sov taken on a bug and used as an exploit.

NightmareX
Caldari
Nomads
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2010.01.10 06:25:00 - [99]
 

Edited by: NightmareX on 10/01/2010 06:29:26
Originally by: Nikodiemus
I totally concur that your loss of a hurricane as a result of lag and desync is absolutely comparable to outpost sov taken on a bug and used as an exploit.

Uhm, the desync thing was a bug on CCP's side. Even if lag was involved for the desync, it's still a nasty nasty bug.

I could also call the desync thing for an exploit at some points, because the enemies could find out if we was desynched or not, and they could take an advantage over us if we are desynced.

Meno Theaetetus
Gallente
Wildly Inappropriate
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2010.01.10 07:11:00 - [100]
 

Originally by: NightmareX
Edited by: NightmareX on 10/01/2010 06:29:26
Originally by: Nikodiemus
I totally concur that your loss of a hurricane as a result of lag and desync is absolutely comparable to outpost sov taken on a bug and used as an exploit.

Uhm, the desync thing was a bug on CCP's side. Even if lag was involved for the desync, it's still a nasty nasty bug.

I could also call the desync thing for an exploit at some points, because the enemies could find out if we was desynched or not, and they could take an advantage over us if we are desynced.


Congratulations sir, I am very impressed with your poasting style and would like to offer you a position in our prestigious wi caod poasting department.


airdefense
Caldari
H A V O C
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2010.01.10 07:28:00 - [101]
 

Originally by: Bonzoli
Sadly I am taking resubscribe off my 3 accounts. Planetside again, below average support, patches, and game redesign. I can get this from any game. So you have my vote Tomcat.

I'll of course support our efforts until that timer runs out. But I can not in good faith continue to pay for a game with such lackluster support.

- Bonzoli


Can i have your accounts?

davefromdevelopment
Caldari
Origin.
Black Legion.
Posted - 2010.01.10 07:41:00 - [102]
 

You know you couldve anchored your own sbu and repped the station right

Gorefacer
Caldari
Resurrection
Gentlemen's Club
Posted - 2010.01.10 07:48:00 - [103]
 

Originally by: Shigsy
We doing the whole quote the same message for emphasis now? Cool.

Shander Maxum
Gallente
Shander Maxum Universal Ltd.
Posted - 2010.01.10 08:27:00 - [104]
 

Edited by: Shander Maxum on 10/01/2010 08:46:25
Edited by: Shander Maxum on 10/01/2010 08:30:15
Boycotting won't work...(except as a matter of principle ) and the real goal is to have them improve some service aspects, not to give up the hobby.

The best way to get the attention to having technical issues fail gracefully without bias (if they need to fail at all) and to get the message that transparency, consistency, predictability, and proactivity in game refereeing actions are needed would be to take the lists of inadequacies frequently to other gaming forums and ranking sites everywhere.

I think that’s the best chance of making a $ reason to steer more $ resources into the appropriate response and player communication departments.

And I think its a legitimate and moral response as long as any comments on other gaming sites remain as close as possible to how a player writing such comments sees the facts and issues. Let people respond there with “QQ me an waambulance” and other sort of low class stuff and that will light the fire under cccp’s butts to make the changes even higher priority to shut that even worse marketing impression up.

Trebor Notlimah
Gallente
Lone Star EVE Group
Veni Vidi Vici Alliance
Posted - 2010.01.10 08:48:00 - [105]
 

Originally by: Shander Maxum
Edited by: Shander Maxum on 10/01/2010 08:30:15
Boycotting won't work...(except as a matter of principal ) and the real goal is to have them improve some service aspects, not to give up the hobby.





Ok keep throwing you $15/month into the CCP black hole and lose a few dozen more titans. I wish I could write ****ty software and have customers refuse to stop paying for it. CCP really has your nuts in the jar now.

Shander Maxum
Gallente
Shander Maxum Universal Ltd.
Posted - 2010.01.10 08:56:00 - [106]
 

Originally by: Trebor Notlimah
Originally by: Shander Maxum
Edited by: Shander Maxum on 10/01/2010 08:30:15
Boycotting won't work...(except as a matter of principal ) and the real goal is to have them improve some service aspects, not to give up the hobby.





Ok keep throwing you $15/month into the CCP black hole and lose a few dozen more titans. I wish I could write ****ty software and have customers refuse to stop paying for it. CCP really has your nuts in the jar now.



LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing
Truly funny cause its probably got too much truth in it.. and i've played less that a year.

It is a good point ... well I can pay with isk for awhile

ArmyOfMe
Caldari
Hysera.
Posted - 2010.01.10 10:17:00 - [107]
 

Originally by: Vuk Lau
Free Plague Black


i can agree with most of what u said vuk, but not the above quoted bitLaughing

Matata Hakuna
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2010.01.10 11:29:00 - [108]
 

So much ignorance in this thread. Let's set the facts straight:

1. 5% of EVE is 0.0 - Ah the biggest lie ever. Even CCP is not aware of how false this statement is as. 90% of economy works for 0.0 so do your math again before you come up with "0.0 is not that important". Imagine the consequences on EVE if 0.0 stopped existing.
2. CCP can do something about current problems - Eh! You wish! CCP is "doing scrum", unfortunately in totally wrong fashion. Their QA team is too small and too strained to be able to do anything smart about what their developers are throwing out into production. The result is ever increasing technical debt. They do not have it under control, they can only try to ease some of the symptoms, like throwing more powerful hardware on it whenever they can afford it. In the end CCP will be forced to re-write EVE to be able to handle large fleet fights the way they promised it should work.

So even if you were to bring Jita down every day or leave the game CCP would be powerless (and clueless) to do anything about it. Let me spell the obvious to you: EVE is dead (in the form we play it now).Twisted Evil

Now CCP how about that EVE FPS for consoles since you can't do any better?Laughing

NightmareX
Caldari
Nomads
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2010.01.10 11:35:00 - [109]
 

Edited by: NightmareX on 10/01/2010 11:58:45
Originally by: Meno Theaetetus
Originally by: NightmareX
Edited by: NightmareX on 10/01/2010 06:29:26
Originally by: Nikodiemus
I totally concur that your loss of a hurricane as a result of lag and desync is absolutely comparable to outpost sov taken on a bug and used as an exploit.

Uhm, the desync thing was a bug on CCP's side. Even if lag was involved for the desync, it's still a nasty nasty bug.

I could also call the desync thing for an exploit at some points, because the enemies could find out if we was desynched or not, and they could take an advantage over us if we are desynced.


Congratulations sir, I am very impressed with your poasting style and would like to offer you a position in our prestigious wi caod poasting department.



Thank you for your kind wordsWink.

But the whole point is that even if it was a bug from the beginning of when desync was found, and even if i would see it as an exploit in some situations, i never did got anything back when i lost ships to desync. I don't even think you will get anything back even today if it's because of desync. But correct me if i'm wrong about that.

So the whole thing is, even if you know it's a bug and even when you might see this as an exploit, it doesn't mean you will get anything of what you lost back.

I would rather say that fight back and use the same tactic against Tri and friends on taking a station. But ofc, that all depends on how many you have in your gang and so on.

King Dave
Gallente
Raven Dynamics
The Insomniacs
Posted - 2010.01.10 11:44:00 - [110]
 

Originally by: NightmareX


But the whole point is that even if it was a bug from the beginning of when desync was found, and even if i would see it as an exploit in some situations, i never did got anything back when i lost ships to desync. I don't even think you will get anytrhing back even today if it's because of desync. But correct me if i'm wrong about that.

So the whole thing is, even if you know it's a bug and even when you might see this as an exploit, it doesn't mean you will get anything of what you lost back.

I would rather say that fight back and use the same tactic against Tri and friends on taking a station. But ofc, that all depends on how many you have in your gang and so on.


****OFF TOPIC WARNING****

I swear all you ever do on these forums is defend the points you make, because everyone proves them wrong.

RenegadeChemist
Caldari
Imperium Forces
Posted - 2010.01.10 11:45:00 - [111]
 

Originally by: Matata Hakuna

2. CCP can do something about current problems - Eh! You wish! CCP is "doing scrum", unfortunately in totally wrong fashion. Their QA team is too small and too strained to be able to do anything smart about what their developers are throwing out into production. The result is ever increasing technical debt. They do not have it under control, they can only try to ease some of the symptoms, like throwing more powerful hardware on it whenever they can afford it. In the end CCP will be forced to re-write EVE to be able to handle large fleet fights the way they promised it should work.Laughing

Re-write eve, that's hilarious. Laughing

The most funniest thing in MMORPG's are these guys, telling real developers how to design, program and QA...

Dominion patch day was also full of laughs, most memorable was that one guy whining about the patch size and length of DT. 23 hours and you could download the patch in 15 minutes, of course there isn't anything to configure with new patch...

EVE is far from dead, yesterday we had over 52 000 players online before crash.

You forget also the MMORPG rule, that the forum whiners are loudest minority in any MMORPG. It's quite interesting, they are so hooked in the game, that they think that developers are making the game just for them. Not every player who plays it, just for that particular. And if he quits, the whole game dies. That's what he thinks Laughing

Same old, same old, since first MMORPG arrived in the scene back in days... Rolling Eyes


Shuckstar
Gallente
Hauling hogs
Swine Aviation Labs
Posted - 2010.01.10 12:01:00 - [112]
 

Originally by: Gouglash
Originally by: Boppi
Edited by: Boppi on 09/01/2010 19:51:49
Cry more.

Also, Atlas checked the armor of the outpost, asked a GM and then attacked.

It's not their fault they have better intel of that outpost than you have.


* Posting of petition details is not allowed on the forums. - CCP Ildoge

Because like every issue where CCP ****s up, they want it to go away via locked threads and forum bans, rather than having to actually lift a finger to fix it.

This is why T20 is still employed at CCP.


Not involved in the conflict, but posting to say CCP sort your **** out, Dominion is utter fail, just glad it didnt delete my boot.ini aswell this time Very Happy Also agreeing with the Razor dude, locked threads and forum bans not way to deal with this.






Matata Hakuna
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2010.01.10 12:03:00 - [113]
 

Originally by: RenegadeChemist
Ignorant fanboi blabber




Kid, some of us have lives outside of EVE and they happen to be heavily involved with software development. Also some of us are able to see beyond our noses unlike you. And no, you won't get a job at CCP by sucking up to them, they have plenty of ignoramuses lined up to be GMs.Laughing

EVE is dead, not tomorrow, not in 5 months, but pretty soon compared to history they have behind them. Adding new features to EVE is like stacking oil barrels on house of cards.Twisted Evil

Gobbins
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2010.01.10 12:08:00 - [114]
 

look at all you fools and your endgame :V

- Gob

LTD THOR
Caldari
Liga Freier Terraner
Ev0ke
Posted - 2010.01.10 12:33:00 - [115]
 

Originally by: Matata Hakuna
Adding new features to EVE is like stacking oil barrels on house of cards.Twisted Evil



Oil barrels and cards. That´s ok and true a bit. But at least, there wasnt a real lighter till yet. Pro firefighters rdy to bridge in if needed i guess.

D'ceet
Caldari
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.01.10 13:01:00 - [116]
 

man, im gonna go back to tabletop gaming for a while..that way, if i have a problem, i can sort it out faster than "oops, we dont find ****, sorry"

remember me as the terrible forum poaster that i always was...

LTD THOR
Caldari
Liga Freier Terraner
Ev0ke
Posted - 2010.01.10 13:16:00 - [117]
 

Edited by: LTD THOR on 10/01/2010 13:16:53
Another WI member dont want to play CCP´s game anymore. WI disbanding!?

Myz Toyou
Minmatar
the Organ Grinder and Company
Posted - 2010.01.10 13:32:00 - [118]
 

Originally by: LTD THOR
Edited by: LTD THOR on 10/01/2010 13:16:53
Another WI member dont want to play CCP´s game anymore. WI disbanding!?


... and all join a different NC Alliance Laughing

EVE has become so much more fun since I´m not longer in the 0.0 endgame Very Happy

Kerisai
Caldari
Psykotic Meat
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2010.01.10 14:21:00 - [119]
 


*On second thoughts, don't fix it. We enjoy whining far too much, and make far better whiners than PvPers.

Discussion of moderation removed as per forum rule #10 at Forum RulesStevieSG.

ArmyOfMe
Caldari
Hysera.
Posted - 2010.01.10 14:42:00 - [120]
 

Originally by: Kerisai
We enjoy whining far too much, and make far better whiners than PvPers.
tell us something we dont know


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