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Oceanis Sol
Posted - 2010.01.07 21:47:00 - [1]

We all know the story of Eve and New Eden, I am wondering if at our time (i mean the one of the game), if all people knows their story and past. It is something that is seen as real, legend or just completly forgoten by many people?


Garion Avarr
Adhocracy Incorporated
Posted - 2010.01.07 21:57:00 - [2]

About 99% completely forgotten, maybe 1% (or less) legend. It's known that we came from somewhere else, any details of this somewhere else are forgotten, but some things like certain animals survive as myths (the Wolf is supposedly a mythological creature in New Eden). Any details of Earth's history would be completely forgotten.

Odilon Raennere
Posted - 2010.01.08 12:22:00 - [3]

Originally by: Garion Avarr
the Wolf is supposedly a mythological creature in New Eden

I wonder if it wouldn't have already been mythological by the time of the discovery of EVE and the first colonization... ~8000 AD.

Scout Ops
Red Federation
Posted - 2010.01.12 23:47:00 - [4]

so they dont know about Backstreet Boys? Shocked

Davin Forsosa
Posted - 2010.01.13 08:31:00 - [5]

However going by the Empyrean Age novel, it seems some people know of "Terra" and how humanity originated from the otherside of EVE.

This is something I found completely uncomfortable in the novel. Here I was imagining a world where humanity can only speculate on its origins (much like reality) and then this established lore is suddenly twisted in a different direction?

Everything in game and in the chronicles points to having no real idea. Only myth and imagination.

Odilon Raennere
Posted - 2010.01.13 09:54:00 - [6]

Originally by: Davin Forsosa
going by the Empyrean Age novel

We might as well just stop doing this.

Deviana Sevidon
Butterfly Effect Alliance
Posted - 2010.01.13 11:33:00 - [7]

At least a little knowledge is still present. For example the EVE Standard Time that the space civilisation uses is of course based on the earth year and calendar and it was created with the help of the Jovians and Amarr who both still had a bit of knowledge about the early settlers of New Eden.

With genetic science all the Empires can also easily tell that life on most worlds and especially the humans have the same origin and when you get to this point, you might call the origin Terra or Atlantis or whatever.

But specific knowledge of ancient history is either gone or hidden away and inaccessable for the populace including capsuleers. The Jovians broke off the contact and were very reluctant to share information even before they did. The Amarr might have recordings of the early settlement of New Eden, but with this information they would have difficulties justifying slavery or their reclaiming, so nothing will come from them.

Gallente, Minmatar and Caldari suffered a nearly total breakdown of their civilisation, in which all Data got lost except maybe some legends about the old days.

Davin Forsosa
Posted - 2010.01.13 12:15:00 - [8]

Originally by: Odilon Raennere
Originally by: Davin Forsosa
going by the Empyrean Age novel

We might as well just stop doing this.


Odilon Raennere
Posted - 2010.01.13 20:23:00 - [9]

Originally by: Davin Forsosa

Sorry, that was kind of snarky on my part. My point is that Empyrean Age tried to cover so much ground and look at so many angles of one acute political crisis in the EVE universe (while manufacturing that crisis in the first place as PF background to faction warfare and the eponymous 2008 expansion) that the book glosses over a lot of otherwise complex aspects of the world. As well, some people just plain don't like the direction toward which TonyG led EVE storytelling even though he's a CCP man and the book officially part of canon. Empyrean Age is like a shotgun blast of story elements. None of them are particularly powerful on their own nor cut very deep, but together they make an effect something like a book.

I agree with you, "Terra" should be to the people of New Eden something like the "Garden of Eden" is to us, except in this case the mythological spawn point is a real place on the other side of a wormhole.


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