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Posted - 2010.01.07 01:24:00 - [31]

Originally by: Hugo Lordmagnus
Originally by: GM Faolchu
Salvaging other peoples wrecks.... This is an intended game mechanic and is in no way an exploit. People salvaging your missions npcs or the player you just blew up are doing nothing wrong. The players are salvaging what is effectively floating rubbish in space and Concord places no value on this wreckage.
Eve is a harsh place you won't always have everything go your way, its a do or die world and people do what they can to get along. If salvaging some wreckage gets them a few more ISK someone will do it, it doesn't matter who just blew it up.

Personally, when i did, i missioned in caldari space where the bounties are higher and the loot and salvage is if you want to spend the time to scan me down and salvage and/or loot the wrecks that i am leaving anyway for at most 1/4 of what i am earning more power to you. I understand that there's a certain feel of ownership but you may also have that feeling over your ship and if other people choose to take that from you you won't have that either Wink

Tallaran Kouros
Cryptonym Sleepers
Posted - 2010.01.07 12:18:00 - [32]

Ninja salvagers annoy me, but I understand that this is a valid game mechanic and is how the dev team want it to be.

I don't mission in busy sites so I don't tend to get bugged by ninja salvagers, but when I do I just pop the wrecks.

It's pretty funny watching them race to the wreck and then me launching a missile *just* as they get there.

Comedysauce :D

Future Mutant
Republic Military School
Posted - 2010.01.07 12:23:00 - [33]

Stealing salvage DOES flag the thief with an agro counter.

Now if i could just figure out why you jetcanned your salvage....

Erika Bronz
The Wyld Hunt
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2010.01.13 05:11:00 - [34]

Originally by: Legacy
Really simple, if someone steals your wrecks you should be able to pop them. Can't say the countless times I have someone in a frig show up where I'm doing missions to try to start stealing my salvage and there is nothing I can do about it.

Only if yellow wrecks can be tractored, and only for 15 minutes.

Cyprus Black
Posted - 2010.01.13 08:17:00 - [35]

What happened to the OP? Once all those CCP GMs and devs were quoted regarding salvage rights, he stopped responding.

Obviously GMs and devs are wrong and the OP is right, so where is he?

Rolling Eyes

Posted - 2010.01.13 13:55:00 - [36]

If you can 'steal' the wrecks without concord interference you should just be able to steal the cans too, it's a completely artificial definition on the part of CCP. The "loot" in the cans is stuff you managed to "salvage" from the destroyed ship.

Its amusing to me that Concord would consider you a criminal for taking 100 ammo that was sitting in a broken rail gun, but be completely okay with your snatching the broken rail gun itself to sell.

Not supported, but my point stands.

Federation of Freedom Fighters
En Garde
Posted - 2010.01.14 23:52:00 - [37]


Lexa Hellfury

Posted - 2010.01.15 07:31:00 - [38]

I'm totally down with this Cool

Wyke Mossari
Posted - 2010.01.15 14:48:00 - [39]

Opposed. This is asinine suggestion, the stuff is created by the the salvager is doing the salvage work, a legitimate mini-profession. A miner putting a mining beam on roid first doesn't make a second mining the same roid a thief. If you want to salvage fit the gear to your PvE ship and salvage as you go.

Ecco Storm
Posted - 2010.01.15 15:10:00 - [40]

Agreed with a twist. I agree that it's a legit mini profession but if a straight up flag were put in place it would stop those from trying to work as salvagers. So how about this ...

First two hours the wrecks are marked just like loot cans. Color the wrecks accordingly so folks know that it's hands off unless you want an aggression flag thrown up. After that period the wrecks are free game and the color is switched to let folks know they're free game. Wrecks after that two hour window are considered "abandoned" basically.

Oh and to boost the profession a bit more allow salvagers to scan down wrecks yeah?

Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.01.15 16:29:00 - [41]

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