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Mah Kraah
Minmatar
Masuat'aa Matari
Posted - 2010.01.07 21:11:00 - [121]
 

Edited by: Mah Kraah on 07/01/2010 21:12:52
search the igs forum for the great slaveliberation raid
some years back ushra khan alliance organiced a slave freeing operation within the borders of amarr and amatar space. splintercells where scanning npc haulers, found slaves , shot the haulers down and collected those "freed slaves" at our bases in molden heath.
together with alot sympathiser organisations and free pilots we managed to liberate 40 000 in this one day.
after several month of whaiting the minmatar republic contacted us in form of a isd actor( the head of minmatar fleet) and took them over into the hands of the minmatar gouverment.
this was a onetime act from ccp side.
with all the publicity around that and even ccp involvement to solve the paradoxon in the end and uncountable petitions from the freedomfighter front ccp refused to introduce a permanent mechanic to allow a minmatar pilot to to what is most natural for him: set a slave free asp he gain control over him.
GM actors are no longer and ccp has no longer a tool to react on such roleplay events and developments. the backround does not evolve with the playing comunity beyond the storrydevelopment introduced in expansions aka the elder army invading amarr lands and freeing the hidden tribe and shakor taking over the republic.
those storrychanges where may inspired by our roleplay work back in the days, our tensions with the republic , us acusing them to not serving the minmatar ppl etc.
for the roleplayers it was more than frustrating to rp against a wall for 2 years untill we gave up on the republic and ccp reacting only another year laterwith the bevore mentioned expansion.
the tools to interact with the storry backround and the npcs are not here, where never codedin or thought about. noone to blame for that in a trailblazing game project as eve. noone knew what things where needed, ccp ofc did not know what a strong rp comunity sparked from the inspiring minmatar/amarr conflict.
my english is not good enough to express my thoughts on that case good enough.
ccp, just ask your employees, those who where flying with the roleplay organisations at that time, they can tell u in your motherslanguage what was and is still missing in this game to make the rp aspect work in our great game.
the liberating slaves button is important immersion wise, easyest to implement thing and still not here... after all those years

Cearain
Caldari
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
Posted - 2010.01.07 21:41:00 - [122]
 

Originally by: Kahega Amielden
Edited by: Kahega Amielden on 03/01/2010 04:30:43


Buy freed slaves. Jettison normal slaves into the sun. Pretend that you freed said slaves.





I agree with this. Except I think you can skip the first step.

But here is the thing, we are just pilots not lawmakers. If you lived in times and places where slavery was legal it was not like you could just grab a slave by the arm and declare "you are hereby free!" At least not unless you were a law maker. You might try to smuggle them out. But in the game you could something similar by jettisoning them into the sun of a minmatar system.

But we all know there are just as many slaves in minmatar systems as in any other systems. In fact the minmatar systems are *full* of slaves. :)

Onnen Mentar
Murientor Tribe
Posted - 2010.01.08 11:32:00 - [123]
 

Being able to actually free slaves or enslave freed slaves would finally make the Amarr-Minmatar conflict a bit more tangible. A lot could be done with this to spark some nice wars. It's a fun game feature just waiting to happen. The saddest part is that when I started playing EVE the feature was there...

Enough said, CCP make it happen. Cool

MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.01.08 12:14:00 - [124]
 

Signed.

gawadroit
Posted - 2010.01.09 07:25:00 - [125]
 

Whether or not they rejected the idea in the past is irrelevant. We aren't asking them to travel back in time. We are letting CCP know what we want now and how much of a backing for the idea there is. Some of us are still paying to play this game and all of us have at one point and time. The idea of adding a game element that will increase the joy of gameplay for those that have any kind of involvement in the minmitar/amarr conflicts (which is a great many of us) is not absurd or farfetched. Yes it would take some time to do the coding and yes it will be prone to exploitation but so would any addition to the game. Patches are used to reduce exploitation and fix it when possible. We are not asking CCP to completely revamp the game, just add something that would brighten our gameplay.

Zuzanna Alondra
Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics
Posted - 2010.01.09 16:09:00 - [126]
 

Originally by: Russian Muzhik

I see the easiest way to implement freeing slaves is to change "trash it" to alternatives like "free them" button for all livestock-type cargo including cattle (if someone wants to RP a vegetarian).



I actually like the "free" button for all livestock idea - but then I had to laugh, little known fact - Zuzanna is a vegetarian.

But I'm not going to go out freeing the cattle, I've even done courier contacts for isk to haul cattle for steak. (dead serious)

But I am delighted to see this thread still kicking - you guys are wonderful.

Purple Hydra
The EVE Observer
Posted - 2010.01.12 02:15:00 - [127]
 

they needed this from day one.

/signed

Zenixxx
Amarr
Atrum Aquila
Posted - 2010.01.12 02:18:00 - [128]
 

/signed

because as long as something dont break the game and give even a small amount of fun to at lease 1 players its a good thing

Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation
RONA Directorate
Posted - 2010.01.12 07:51:00 - [129]
 

/signed

You should be able to take slaves and free them, and find escaped / free slaves and reenslave them.


Marz Ghola
Minmatar
Royal Order of Security Specialists
Posted - 2010.01.16 05:41:00 - [130]
 


Signed, adds depth

Deladian
Gallente
FLA5HY RED
The Defenders of Pen Island
Posted - 2010.01.17 19:28:00 - [131]
 

/signed

Over the last 5 pages it might have been said already or may just be stupid; but maybe let the Minmatar customs take them off you via a station agent in some of the major hubs.

Either way its a good idea.


Ciar Meara
Amarr
Virtus Vindice
Posted - 2010.01.18 14:34:00 - [132]
 

Originally by: Derena Del'thul
Sure, I'll sign this. However, I would also like then to implement the option of turning the Tourists and other 'livestock' you can get into slaves. Perhaps on a timer, so you can only do it every so often, and only in lowsec/outlaw areas.


And the Amarr Empire.

Ishamah Metaburah
Posted - 2010.01.19 20:41:00 - [133]
 

Oooh, now I can free my own character! Very Happy

No, seriously, do want this.

Tiny Montgomery
Posted - 2010.01.19 21:43:00 - [134]
 

Originally by: Dillon Arklight
I think it was in the first or second fan fest in the Dev Q and A session a guy stood up and said he had over 1000 slaves in his hangar and needed a way to "set them free". Each day he would buy Quaffe and food and other "entertainments" for the slaves. He had even asked a friend to look after them while he was at the fan fest. God know how many he has now living in his hangar. For this guys sake ...


This is funny.

Great idea. Very simple. Adds to depth of game.

/signed.

Fran Occuria
Posted - 2010.01.19 23:58:00 - [135]
 

Who are you to question some man's goal's in eve ! slaves are slaves they are born that way and wouldn't know any better....
they are like goldfish keep them in your hanger next to your janitors to clean up the mess the prostitute's make in there, if they don't listen chuck a litle vitoc in there to make them come to their senses.

it is all irrelevant stuff Rolling Eyes

Kata Amentis
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Posted - 2010.01.20 23:28:00 - [136]
 

Edited by: Kata Amentis on 20/01/2010 23:28:05
I seem to remember a long time ago there was the odd 'trade' mission that would crop up and you needed to bring in XXX slaves and receive XXX scientist, YYYY marines, ZZZZ janitors etc.

So, bring back these old templates, tidy them up with a bit of a revamp. Add them onto storyline mission agents in Matari space, so they will always give out a "bring me xxx slaves" mission when you request a mission instead of "i've got nothing for you", if they've already sent you an offered storyline mission then that is live and you don't have the request new mission, its just view mission etc per standard.

Doesn't take a major overhaul or huge additions to the mechanics or assets, but you can turn slaves into some other "livestock" type by handing some over the authorities and getting back some that have been through vitoc rehab etc. already.

Add a similar template to the Amarr storyline agents to bring XXXX homeless and receive YYYY slaves... maybe a little more complicated as you can technically enslave any of the 'human' livestock group... but homeless are a good starter for 10?

Other rewards... nothing much, having standings would be exploitable by buying slaves and running the missions so probably best avoided or capped or some such, and a rehab service wouldn't give out isk, it'd be asking for isk... maybe a certifcate or something to wave around showing you did good/bad.

Just a thought...

oh

/signed

Nadarius Chrome
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Posted - 2010.01.20 23:39:00 - [137]
 

There used to be an agent offer in the days before the LP store where if you handed in something absurd like 10,000 slaves and x million ISK you'd get a few hundred freed slaves back.

I never did accumulate enough slaves to try it, and even then it was a pretty crappy offer.

Repals
Posted - 2010.01.22 10:36:00 - [138]
 

I support! it's so stupid that you can buy slaves in minma space, just because the player can't push a "set free" button instead of "trash"

Rhodry Maelwaedd
Posted - 2010.01.24 15:54:00 - [139]
 

/signed

Dancing Sun
Posted - 2010.01.31 18:22:00 - [140]
 

I want this.
/signed

Jerid Verges
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2010.01.31 21:41:00 - [141]
 

If we can free slaves I want to make tourists into Erotic Dancers! Very Happy

My ship never leaves port on a long journey without them!

Originally by: Eric Lancier
Edited by: Eric Lancier on 03/01/2010 10:52:40
I agree with the idea, i just worry that it will create an exploit in marketting, such as buying lots of slaves in amarr space hauling, freeing them and making profit, it seems a bit hard to monitor.


A new proffesion in eve?

Da'Grim
Posted - 2010.02.19 21:06:00 - [142]
 

/signed

Wagner84
Minmatar
Secteur Armement
Posted - 2010.02.24 15:46:00 - [143]
 

/signed

An agent could remotely free them (like completing a courier mission).

Django Minstraka
Posted - 2010.02.25 15:07:00 - [144]
 

Edited by: Django Minstraka on 25/02/2010 15:07:41
They are asking now for player ideas for game improvement's and this seems like good one as I also enjoy EVE as a RPG. /signed

Ris Dnalor
Minmatar
Fleet of Doom
Posted - 2010.02.28 07:04:00 - [145]
 

As Kata stated above, it used to be possible through certain agents to turn slaves into freed slaves. But that was removed.

Erina Shadowfang
Minmatar
Pulsar Inc.
Cursed Alliance
Posted - 2010.03.19 12:59:00 - [146]
 

/signed

Free slaves !
Stop Amarr legacy !

make it happen !

Petter Dol
Posted - 2010.03.19 13:22:00 - [147]
 

trade in XXX slaves for XXX points into Slave liberator certificate/badge and XXX faction standings / day

can be switched out for ammar/minmater

any ideas for a Gallente/Caldari version?

Gallente POW --- gallente fighter
Gallente Slave -- gallente cizizen
Gallente Traitor- Caldari Fighter
Prostitute - Exotic Dancer

Kharylien
Gallente
Masked Rider Project
Posted - 2010.03.19 19:22:00 - [148]
 

I absolutely support this. I don't even RP, it just breaks my heart leaving slaves hanging in space.

What would I do with them? Easy: they can come live in my village. On a starbase in Verge Vendor there is a massive container, in which there is a massive stockpile of frozen food, water, frozen plant seeds, soil, quafe, holoreels, consumer electronics, planetary vehicles, dairy products, wheat, spiced wine, spirits, antibiotics and other entertainments and useful commodities.

All of which is there to provide for the entertainment and wellbeing of the collection of every Militant, Exotic Dancer, Tourist, Marine, Janitor and Homeless I've ever picked up. I don't have the nerve to smuggle slaves through Gallente space or I'd house them there too.

I know they're just pixels but they're pixels of people. I want to free slaves, too.

mafia knight
Posted - 2010.04.03 07:18:00 - [149]
 

you could set up BPOs to convert slaves to freed slaves and other passengers to slaves

Zurtan Bayle
Minmatar
The Wings of Maak
Posted - 2010.04.22 12:49:00 - [150]
 

/signed and bump


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