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flakeys
Caldari
The Great cornholio's
Paper Tiger Coalition |
Posted - 2010.01.03 11:32:00 - [ 181]
 Originally by: Kola XXX
Originally by: Anile8er
soooo when are all these ***gots gonna be quitting???
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CAOD Ambition
Gallente
Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.01.03 11:32:00 - [ 182]
Originally by: Manterror
IT, you seem to miss the bigger picture.
These guys played a lot of eve to skill up to capital ships, and buy capital ships. They lose their capital ships without a fight...without even seeing a fight.
Not being able to play the "end game" of Eve is a major failing by CCP. Its a failure of services that we all pay for, and soon all alliances on both sides of the war will be up in arms.
So stop pretending that you like this **** and strut around smug as if it was a major strategic victory, it will be you crying tears of pain at some point when your grid doesnt load.
And when that happens GoonSPLOT run around calling it a victory, I think we can all agree lag sucks and needs to be fixed but dont make it sound like GoonSPLOT are above this,.. After all Goons were the ones who created this strategy, except unlike Goons IT dont trash talk local, spam drop drones and mass jump gates to crash, all they did was chill at the TCU,.. The initial objective of SPooNCLOT, was to crash the node in the first place but to have it work in their favour so why defend them when their plan worked just affected the wrong side,.. |
LUKEC
Amarr
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance |
Posted - 2010.01.03 11:36:00 - [ 183]
Originally by: Manterror
IT, you seem to miss the bigger picture.
These guys played a lot of eve to skill up to capital ships, and buy capital ships. They lose their capital ships without a fight...without even seeing a fight.
Not being able to play the "end game" of Eve is a major failing by CCP. Its a failure of services that we all pay for, and soon all alliances on both sides of the war will be up in arms.
So stop pretending that you like this **** and strut around smug as if it was a major strategic victory, it will be you crying tears of pain at some point when your grid doesnt load.
Haha, another victim of propaganda. There never were any "endgame" good fights in eve. Ps. Jv1v. |
Manterror
Gallente
Fuzzy Duck Flying V Squadron
Predatory Instincts |
Posted - 2010.01.03 11:37:00 - [ 184]
Originally by: CAOD Ambition
Originally by: Manterror
IT, you seem to miss the bigger picture.
These guys played a lot of eve to skill up to capital ships, and buy capital ships. They lose their capital ships without a fight...without even seeing a fight.
Not being able to play the "end game" of Eve is a major failing by CCP. Its a failure of services that we all pay for, and soon all alliances on both sides of the war will be up in arms.
So stop pretending that you like this **** and strut around smug as if it was a major strategic victory, it will be you crying tears of pain at some point when your grid doesnt load.
And when that happens GoonSPLOT run around calling it a victory, I think we can all agree lag sucks and needs to be fixed but dont make it sound like GoonSPLOT are above this,..
After all Goons were the ones who created this strategy, except unlike Goons IT dont trash talk local, spam drop drones and mass jump gates to crash, all they did was chill at the TCU,..
The initial objective of SPooNCLOT, was to crash the node in the first place but to have it work in their favour so why defend them when their plan worked just affected the wrong side,..
I missed that thread where GOONSPLOT did the same, but id say the same thing. Its ****ing stupid, im avoiding large fights and going back to solo pirating in my alt...thats the new end-game |
Nemtar Nataal
Caldari
Demonic Retribution
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Posted - 2010.01.03 11:39:00 - [ 185]
Originally by: Kieselguhr Kid
so here's what's going to happen if this doesn't get fixed:
1)every piece of 0.0 contestable space except Delve that can possibly be owned by a Euro TZ alliance will be, because under this system the first alliance to set up automatically wins
2)Delve will be invulnerable, not because we can set reinforcement timers for US TZ or anything but because we have a really big alliance and our 300 actives can leave 300 alts AFK in every contested system
this bodes well for the future of this game imo
Funny how you guys didnt seem to mind that the game mechanics were working in your favor when you disbanded BoB 6 months ago, or many times b4 that when GS have used there undestanding of gamemechanics to get and edge on other alliances. From where im sitting you are getting what is comming to you so maybe you can undestand what you have inflicted on other alliances in the past. GJ IT even though it was not really a fight as much as it was a slugfest, the people who really failed and who alwayes fail was CCP who didnt fix this issue in time. |
Zatharyn
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2010.01.03 11:46:00 - [ 186]
JV1V NEVER FORGET |
Zhalakin
Minmatar
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2010.01.03 11:55:00 - [ 187]
gj on trying to crash the node.
you failed and got owned.
hf! |
Jarnis McPieksu
Gallente
H A V O C
Against ALL Authorities |
Posted - 2010.01.03 11:58:00 - [ 188]
Edited by: Jarnis McPieksu on 03/01/2010 11:59:00 Originally by: Kieselguhr Kid
so here's what's going to happen if this doesn't get fixed:
1)every piece of 0.0 contestable space except Delve that can possibly be owned by a Euro TZ alliance will be, because under this system the first alliance to set up automatically wins
Not true. L2P around the issue. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1243986&page=6#153 Quote:
2)Delve will be invulnerable, not because we can set reinforcement timers for US TZ or anything but because we have a really big alliance and our 300 actives can leave 300 alts AFK in every contested system
this bodes well for the future of this game imo
Not true. Believe in that and you will lose with your pants down. 300 alts docked in a station do exactly squat zip. 300 alts floating at the station undock do exactly squat. See Jita for proof. Stick those 300 alts on a gate, and you may get a result, assuming the enemy doesn't use another gate or otherwise avoid putting a large number of ships on the same grid on system load. Once they are in system, all bets are off. Granted, you need to alarmclock hard due to the reinforce timer issue, but otherwise the problem of large fights can be worked around. NC learned and adapted. You can either cry or do the same. |
xenonn
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.03 12:10:00 - [ 189]
Edited by: xenonn on 03/01/2010 12:17:12
I laughed myself to sleep last night, what a great start to the new year. I'd be suprised if anyone gets reimbursed. Especially when you knowingly jumped into such a heavily populated system in the hope it would work in your favor. Add to that the fact that your predictable, and dare I say it pathetic local spamming wouldnt have helped your situation. CCP must remain consistant on its decision not to reimburse those of us that have lost their ships to lag in geminate.
The future doesnt look good for the Northern Crumblition and GoonVomit, when your leadership consistantly fail you.
OH! Titan wreck Conga line anyone?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! HAHAHAHA hahahahaha HAAAAAA!!!! |
KInkamache
Caldari
Rim Collection RC
Test Alliance Please Ignore |
Posted - 2010.01.03 12:20:00 - [ 190]
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ArmyOfMe
Caldari
Hysera.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 12:23:00 - [ 191]
Originally by: Jebb Jones
I encourage all to leave the game if this does not improve!
Originally by: Dianabolic
Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL
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RenegadeChemist
Caldari
Imperium Forces
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Posted - 2010.01.03 12:27:00 - [ 192]
Edited by: RenegadeChemist on 03/01/2010 12:28:10Keep kicking ass IT!  *Raises glass* Originally by: zythyl
AFAIK, Goons / PL tried to enter an unsupported node knowing there were already 600 pilots spinning there ships in there? To add to that, sources tell me that they were spamming local and their plan was to... crash the node and force a re-log; apparently beating IT's loggers and getting into the node first.
Knowing that there is 600 pilots in system wich is NOT reinforced Jumping in with massive fleet Spamming local in hope to crash the node LOOSE TITANS FOR DOING THAT  ****ing priceless  |
C4w3
Minmatar
Corp 1 Allstars
Northern Coalition. |
Posted - 2010.01.03 12:34:00 - [ 193]
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Massive Dragon
Gallente
Genos Occidere
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2010.01.03 12:38:00 - [ 194]
Originally by: Manterror
Originally by: CAOD Ambition
Originally by: Manterror
IT, you seem to miss the bigger picture.
These guys played a lot of eve to skill up to capital ships, and buy capital ships. They lose their capital ships without a fight...without even seeing a fight.
Not being able to play the "end game" of Eve is a major failing by CCP. Its a failure of services that we all pay for, and soon all alliances on both sides of the war will be up in arms.
So stop pretending that you like this **** and strut around smug as if it was a major strategic victory, it will be you crying tears of pain at some point when your grid doesnt load.
And when that happens GoonSPLOT run around calling it a victory, I think we can all agree lag sucks and needs to be fixed but dont make it sound like GoonSPLOT are above this,..
After all Goons were the ones who created this strategy, except unlike Goons IT dont trash talk local, spam drop drones and mass jump gates to crash, all they did was chill at the TCU,..
The initial objective of SPooNCLOT, was to crash the node in the first place but to have it work in their favour so why defend them when their plan worked just affected the wrong side,..
I missed that thread where GOONSPLOT did the same, but id say the same thing.
Its ****ing stupid, im avoiding large fights and going back to solo pirating in my alt...thats the new end-game
i wasnt aware defiant was invited to "endgame pvp" by goons/pl (and if you where i would find it unsurprising and reaffirming the hypocracy in this thread.
also define major victory, because ive never before seen half a trillion isk lost in one battle and a system taken for reletivley few losses. by any defenition this has to be the most decive and costly battle ever seen in eve. |
Endeva
Caldari
Red Dragon Crime Syndicate.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 12:41:00 - [ 195]
first we have left side nc cryalition thread (pure blind) then right side nc cryalition (geminate) thread then we have goons cryalition thread , splot cryalition thread and nc alltogether (fountaine). well as i said it before whoever i leaveing game u can contract me your stuff!!!! |
Robskiwarrior
Caldari
ANZAC ALLIANCE
RAZOR Alliance |
Posted - 2010.01.03 12:59:00 - [ 196]
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NokNok
Caldari
D00M.
Northern Coalition. |
Posted - 2010.01.03 13:03:00 - [ 197]
If only it were NC titans  |
Matata Hakuna
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm |
Posted - 2010.01.03 13:26:00 - [ 198]
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Rozanos
Caldari
dUcT TapE aERoNautiCs
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Posted - 2010.01.03 13:42:00 - [ 199]
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Drilla
Gallente
Yet Another Mining Corp
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Posted - 2010.01.03 13:48:00 - [ 200]
Originally by: Jebb Jones
Many dedicated pilots died tonight in Y-2 given that we could never load Y-2.
I encourage all to leave the game if this does not improve!
Oh I remember back in the day were you deliberately crashed the nodes because it was pre-enforce possible and you said learn to live with it. Lotka Volterra never loaded when we were fighting the GS blob, now taste your own medicine - whiner. |
dracice
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.01.03 13:56:00 - [ 201]
hey goonies threadnought. go.
like the local threadnought.
i think when local broke and no longer worked the lag got even less for us.
"keep on crying, no one can hear you dying.
so you end up self destructing."
lil twist on akon's song :P
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Matata Hakuna
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm |
Posted - 2010.01.03 13:57:00 - [ 202]
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Rollory
Gallente
Viper Intel Squad
Sons of Tangra |
Posted - 2010.01.03 14:03:00 - [ 203]
Originally by: Metal Dude
Let me ask a question. Y-2 is about half way between fountain and Delve. PL & co. could have been bringing people in to the system all day like IT did. It’s not like US people are working, it’s Saturday. So why was it that you waited till late in the day to mass jump in your blob? I mean, with all of the lag threads from up north, you knew that it would be impossible to jump in without lag. Did you think that euro’s were not going to stay up to defend the SCU? Well, in that case you made a strategic error and deserve the losses tbh.
this Originally by: Aegis Osiris
I still don't understand this mentality. There's no WAY that anyone on either side could have expected a different result. Noone can be that stupid...not even with the groups involved here. So why the f**k jump?? You had that many people, and other systems with crap to shoot, towers and stations and hubs to reinforce. There were such better options, you could have turned this around.
and this |
Rozanos
Caldari
dUcT TapE aERoNautiCs
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Posted - 2010.01.03 14:03:00 - [ 204]
Originally by: Matata Hakuna
Even if all the goons left eve and GS was an empty shell like bob is it would still be infinitely better then Tri and tri and tri and tri again.
News at 5: Empty shell kills 5 titans. In other News: Red eyes and running noses! Symptoms of a new pandemic amongst bees? Bee keepers are worried. |
NokNok
Caldari
D00M.
Northern Coalition. |
Posted - 2010.01.03 14:06:00 - [ 205]
Originally by: Matata Hakuna
Even if all the goons left eve and GS was an empty shell like bob is it would still be infinitely better then Tri and tri and tri and tri again.
I hear atlas left you to die in the north (as your every "ally" did in the past) so you came rushing south to seek protection from clownies eating brownies. Afraid to take on NC alone o brave one?
Hi Plague Black, you sound bitter. Did Vuk Lau touch you in a bad spot when he kicked you out? Back to the institute with you. |
VonKaplanek III
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 14:11:00 - [ 206]
Originally by: Tholarim
Summary:
CCP they had more people then us! FIX THIS NOW PLEASE OR WE LEAVE GAME!!!
Oh the irony in that. It was worth comming back for tbfh.
YAAY, goon/pl tears woke the dead!!!!! |
dracice
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.01.03 14:16:00 - [ 207]
Originally by: Rollory
Originally by: Metal Dude
Let me ask a question. Y-2 is about half way between fountain and Delve. PL & co. could have been bringing people in to the system all day like IT did. It’s not like US people are working, it’s Saturday. So why was it that you waited till late in the day to mass jump in your blob? I mean, with all of the lag threads from up north, you knew that it would be impossible to jump in without lag. Did you think that euro’s were not going to stay up to defend the SCU? Well, in that case you made a strategic error and deserve the losses tbh.
this
Originally by: Aegis Osiris
I still don't understand this mentality. There's no WAY that anyone on either side could have expected a different result. Noone can be that stupid...not even with the groups involved here. So why the f**k jump?? You had that many people, and other systems with crap to shoot, towers and stations and hubs to reinforce. There were such better options, you could have turned this around.
and this
srsly rollory stop trolling. I told you and you have been told. they TRIED to crash the node by jumping in everything. So they'd have a 50/50 chance of getting settled back first and siege the tcu and sacrifice from there. They tried, when local neared 1400 and the local spam started for like an hour. So it's even more heart breaking for me to see them try so hard and fail... gf tho gf. |
Rollory
Gallente
Viper Intel Squad
Sons of Tangra |
Posted - 2010.01.03 14:27:00 - [ 208]
Originally by: dracice
srsly rollory stop trolling.
I told you and you have been told. they TRIED to crash the node by jumping in everything. So they'd have a 50/50 chance of getting settled back first and siege the tcu and sacrifice from there. They tried, when local neared 1400 and the local spam started for like an hour.
Who's trolling? If I'd been there, I'd have refused to jump. Wouldn't be the first time either. I'm perfectly willing to believe they were hoping to crash the node. That's beside the point. If the idea was to actually win a fight, there were plenty of better options. |
Jarnis McPieksu
Gallente
H A V O C
Against ALL Authorities |
Posted - 2010.01.03 14:36:00 - [ 209]
Edited by: Jarnis McPieksu on 03/01/2010 14:48:48 Originally by: dracice
I told you and you have been told. they TRIED to crash the node by jumping in everything. So they'd have a 50/50 chance of getting settled back first and siege the tcu and sacrifice from there. They tried, when local neared 1400 and the local spam started for like an hour.
So it's even more heart breaking for me to see them try so hard and fail...
gf tho gf.
Fail. These days nodes rarely crash. What happens is that the people who are trying to enter the system lag while their ship loads for everyone else on grid just fine. As far as I know, a NC FC that was present tried to explain this **** to Goons before the failure, but they still jumped everyone into one single grid - which would have caused the result they got even with ZERO REDS (which they pretty much got - just read a battle report that most of the IT fleet stayed at their pos for quite a while after the cynos went up, so effectively Goons/PL lagged each other to death on the entry grid). You cannot jump/bridge to a grid that has too many ships or the game breaks. Doesn't matter how many people are in system - the only thing that matters is how many ships are on a grid that you are trying to enter from another system. If that number is more than 200-300, you will end up in limbo and your ship will be there to be shot to bits. So the trick is to spread out your entrance and avoid overloading the landing grid, putting no more than 50-100 ships on a grid at any one time. Once you are in system, there is no problem (well, no more than pre-Dominion) - even entering grids with 600-700 ships work just okay. Little lag, nothing else. Pretty expensive way to learn this, but what do I know. I'm just a grunt that has fought in half dozen 500+ ship battles post-Dominion and know how this bug works. Goon/PL bigwigs must know better. |
Bruno George
Caldari
Sector 5
FREGE |
Posted - 2010.01.03 14:43:00 - [ 210]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDVEHE10nHc&feature=PlayList&p=F614A7A6461E61E1&index=0This is what Eve advertises. I was not involved in todays epic lag fest, but the eve subscriber base should not accept extreme lag as part of game play. You cant expect the common folk to accept "you should not jump into a system full of players" or "its your own fault for trying to fight when you know the enemy has 300 plus players in system" Alliances should be able to fight each other on fair grids that load properly withen a reasonable time, ie, your emergancy cloak after you jump. Anyways pretty lame for both sides, I hope one day EVE will be just like the Dominion Trailer, for now CCP is lying to us. |
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