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Sergeant Shafto
Caldari
NibbleTek
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.01.03 19:29:00 - [301]
 

Originally by: dracice
did sot fail cascade over IT? hurley? or both...

seems alot of people once they found out how the hurley incident went down didn't like it.




SOT fail cascaded because it had no leadership.

1. For first couple weeks of invasion 99% of SOT members were keen and excited about fighting, but no leadership, despite having some great FCs, meant barely any ops and eventually players and corps got fed up with lack of anything at all.
2. 99% of members didn't really give a sh*t about Hurley, I didn't because I never once saw him in any fleet, or ever see him talk in chat, ever.

Varesk
Gallente
Maelstrom Crew
Posted - 2010.01.03 19:34:00 - [302]
 

Originally by: SpongeSlog
Originally by: Varesk
Originally by: SpongeSlog
Originally by: Varesk


Why dont you all log in to the test server and help CCP fix this problem, go to general discussion and read the "Lag Monster" thread.





If CCP agreed to let me play for free then I would agree to Beta test their crappy code and fix their completely broken QA testing process that allowed a piece of **** like Dominion be released in the first place.


There "Crappy" QA testing is crappy because people like you cannot get your own e-peen out of your ass and log in to test new code. There were many Tests pre-dominion on the test server. Its sorta hard to do those tests when there are only a handful people log in.





There are many ways to create the number of simultaneous connections needed. CCP decided instead to not spend the money on testing and instead pursued a failed policy of relying on Volunteers to do their testing for them.


Wow, since you know how they test, you should have logged in to the test server to help them.

dracice
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2010.01.03 19:35:00 - [303]
 

ok so you were just blowing a comb in the mean while whilst everyone was blue.

Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2010.01.03 19:36:00 - [304]
 

Originally by: SpongeSlog

There are many ways to create the number of simultaneous connections needed. CCP decided instead to not spend the money on testing and instead pursued a failed policy of relying on Volunteers to do their testing for them.


hahaha

oh please, spare us the crocodile tears about server performance Laughing

you guys have happily used lag and node crashes deliberately to gain advantage many times in the past - deal with it

(or carry on weeping and entertain us)




Thesalaus
Amarr
Blood Covenant
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.01.03 19:39:00 - [305]
 

Shafto is 100% accurate here.



Originally by: Sergeant Shafto
Originally by: dracice
did sot fail cascade over IT? hurley? or both...

seems alot of people once they found out how the hurley incident went down didn't like it.




SOT fail cascaded because it had no leadership.

1. For first couple weeks of invasion 99% of SOT members were keen and excited about fighting, but no leadership, despite having some great FCs, meant barely any ops and eventually players and corps got fed up with lack of anything at all.
2. 99% of members didn't really give a sh*t about Hurley, I didn't because I never once saw him in any fleet, or ever see him talk in chat, ever.

Mazerati
Minmatar
Nitro Corp
Systematic-Chaos
Posted - 2010.01.03 20:01:00 - [306]
 

Originally by: Varesk
Its sorta hard to do those tests when there are only a handful people log in.


I understand the frustration this kind of thing causes. And even somewhat sympathise with those it affects (been there, done that). But there simply isn't sufficient incentive to entice players to log into a test server. In ANY game. If they want people to log in to test, they should hire paid testers. Or at the very least, provide sufficient reason for paying subscribers to do it (paying subscribers simply don't want to bother with testing something they're paying a subscription for without some incentive to make it worth their trouble).

Perhaps one way would be to offer free live play in exchange for testing time. Like a 50/50 system. Test for a day, get a free day of live play. And in times of mass tester need, implement some sort of mechanically forced "cease fire" against space those testers hold on the live server, where nothing in their space can be attacked while they're logged into the test server. That way, theres no worry about anyone "unfairly taking advantage" because no one, or too few, are around to defend.

prizum
Caldari
Mediocre and Predictable
Posted - 2010.01.03 20:04:00 - [307]
 

sniping page 11 or 12.

Hate the lag, love the dead titans.

General Windypops
Gallente
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
Posted - 2010.01.03 20:07:00 - [308]
 

Edited by: General Windypops on 03/01/2010 20:07:21
Originally by: prizum
sniping page 11 or 12.


You were shooting better last night, mate


dracice
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2010.01.03 20:08:00 - [309]
 

with the thread rolling this fast its hard to tell.

and since u gotta wait 5 minutes, while your waiting to post and not refreshing, alot can go by. so sniping a fast moving thread would take planning.

prizum
Caldari
Mediocre and Predictable
Posted - 2010.01.03 20:16:00 - [310]
 

ok, spraying and praying at page 11 or 12, better?

Tzujeih
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2010.01.03 20:23:00 - [311]
 

Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: SpongeSlog

There are many ways to create the number of simultaneous connections needed. CCP decided instead to not spend the money on testing and instead pursued a failed policy of relying on Volunteers to do their testing for them.


hahaha

oh please, spare us the crocodile tears about server performance Laughing

you guys have happily used lag and node crashes deliberately to gain advantage many times in the past - deal with it

(or carry on weeping and entertain us)





i herd u like pinatas so i made u dis: EXTREME PINATA DIRTBIKE BOWLING

Vengeance Raze
Minmatar
Black Nova Corp
IT Alliance
Posted - 2010.01.03 20:41:00 - [312]
 

Edited by: Vengeance Raze on 03/01/2010 20:41:41
Originally by: Marlona Sky
Originally by: Gwyneira Vulva'Mae
Crying or Very sadItCrying or Very sadshouldCrying or Very sadbeCrying or Very sadanCrying or Very sadexploitCrying or Very sadtoCrying or Very sad


Fresh batch of tear incoming guys!!!



Some of the content in this thread made me smile, however, out of all of the posts in this thread, this one won a real life lol.

Kaiwhakawa Tumuaki
Minmatar
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.01.03 20:46:00 - [313]
 

Originally by: Varesk


There "Crappy" QA testing is crappy because people like you cannot get your own e-peen out of your ass and log in to test new code. There were many Tests pre-dominion on the test server. Its sorta hard to do those tests when there are only a handful people log in.




None of the features released in dominion 1.00 were the same as they were in sisi. Because players knew that things tried in sisi were going to be changed in the dominion release, there was no reason to test things in sisi.

Oh wait some of the features from sisi were included in dominion; sbus, tcus and outposts that were vulnerable to attack when they were "invulnerable".

The problem wasnt the lack of people willing to test;
It was the rubbish code we were being asked to test, and the lack of acknowledgement of feedback to those of us who did test sisi out.

Anyway back to OP topic;

hahahahahahah will x up again - just to be in a fleet where dbrb shuts the hell up.

Gwyneira Vulva'Mae
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.01.03 22:10:00 - [314]
 

Edited by: Gwyneira Vulva''Mae on 03/01/2010 22:14:46
Originally by: Vengeance Raze
Edited by: Vengeance Raze on 03/01/2010 20:41:41
Originally by: Marlona Sky
Originally by: Gwyneira Vulva'Mae
Crying or Very sadItCrying or Very sadshouldCrying or Very sadbeCrying or Very sadanCrying or Very sadexploitCrying or Very sadtoCrying or Very sad


Fresh batch of tear incoming guys!!!



Some of the content in this thread made me smile, however, out of all of the posts in this thread, this one won a real life lol.
if the tables were turned we would be crowing about your hilarious losses, and you would be accusing us of this and that and petitioning your losses. The schadenfreude is strong, as always, but I don't see how anyone can defend the status quo from a game design perspective. I wasn't accusing IT of exploiting; I was saying that with no hope on the horizon of dynamic node reinforcement that doesn't require downtime, I really don't see how else CCP could fix the problem. The only way a system like Y-2 could be defended would be if it was reinforced; the only way it could have been reinforced is if IT voluntarily petitioned it in advance. As important as the first day is under the new sovereignty mechanics it should be obvious that something needs another look here. As much as both sides here love to see the other get a broomstick snapped off in the ass, you have to be ******ed to look at the status quo and believe that this is how the game should play out. I'm sure you've got a few people in your alliance who'd have preferred a fight where the targets shot back, though they're probably not your designated forum warriors.

Alternatively CCP could just get rid of the daily downtime, and we could sov4 every vulnerable system with 600 docked afk trial accounts.

General Windypops
Gallente
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
Posted - 2010.01.03 22:12:00 - [315]
 

Originally by: Gwyneira Vulva'Mae
Originally by: Vengeance Raze
Edited by: Vengeance Raze on 03/01/2010 20:41:41
Originally by: Marlona Sky
Originally by: Gwyneira Vulva'Mae
Crying or Very sadItCrying or Very sadshouldCrying or Very sadbeCrying or Very sadanCrying or Very sadexploitCrying or Very sadtoCrying or Very sad


Fresh batch of tear incoming guys!!!



Some of the content in this thread made me smile, however, out of all of the posts in this thread, this one won a real life lol.
if the tables were turned we would be crowing about your hilarious losses, and you would be accusing us of this and that and petitioning your losses. The schadenfreude is strong, as always, but I don't see how anyone can defend the status quo from a game design perspective. I wasn't accusing IT of exploiting; I was saying that with no hope on the horizon of dynamic node reinforcement that doesn't require downtime, I really don't see how else CCP could fix the problem. The only way a system like Y-2 could be defended would be if it was reinforced; the only way it could have been reinforced is if IT voluntarily petitioned it in advance. As important as the first day is under the new sovereignty mechanics it should be obvious that something needs another look here. As much as both sides here love to see the other get a broomstick snapped off in the ass, you have to be ******ed to look at the status quo and believe that this is how the game should play out.

Alternatively CCP could just get rid of the daily downtime, and we could sov4 every vulnerable system with 600 docked afk trial accounts.


Oh well, you'll always have JV1V

Thunder1971
Caldari
NailorTech Industries
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2010.01.03 22:13:00 - [316]
 

This is what CCP calls their issue in the news.

"their fleet was disarrayed by a spatial distortion"...Nice workaround.
Now perhaps a functioning code to fix that "Spatial distortion"?

Then we can all play the game again like it is advertised.
At the end of the day everybody will end up on the sucky side of this fail one day.

General Windypops
Gallente
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
Posted - 2010.01.03 22:18:00 - [317]
 

Originally by: Thunder1971
This is what CCP calls their issue in the news.

"their fleet was disarrayed by a spatial distortion"...Nice workaround.
Now perhaps a functioning code to fix that "Spatial distortion"?

Then we can all play the game again like it is advertised.
At the end of the day everybody will end up on the sucky side of this fail one day.


You're right, it was CCP that forced the FC to decide that was the best time to jump in. It was CCP that decided the best course of action was to let IT build up steadily throughout the day rather than trying to make a beachhead. There's NO WAY that what happened to the NC twice in a row would EVER happen to them, right?

Helen Highwater
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.01.03 22:24:00 - [318]
 

Originally by: Butter Dog


Sorry - I must have missed the part where there was a dark, invisible force, which prevented you entering the system during the day and building up your forces like IT did, so you wouldn't have to jump in en-masse at the last possible moment.

Poor you Crying or Very sad


How do you 'slowly build your forces up' over the day in a system where you can't dock at the station and you have no friendly POSes to shelter in? You can do logoff stuff I guess but you still have to bring all those people in at the same time one way or another.

Lord WarATron
Amarr
Shadow Warri0rs
Posted - 2010.01.03 22:26:00 - [319]
 

Bee's upset over loosing their hive? LaughingLaughingLaughing

Fenix Zealot
Caldari
LOST IDEA
C0VEN
Posted - 2010.01.03 22:30:00 - [320]
 

Originally by: Helen Highwater
Originally by: Butter Dog


Sorry - I must have missed the part where there was a dark, invisible force, which prevented you entering the system during the day and building up your forces like IT did, so you wouldn't have to jump in en-masse at the last possible moment.

Poor you Crying or Very sad


How do you 'slowly build your forces up' over the day in a system where you can't dock at the station and you have no friendly POSes to shelter in? You can do logoff stuff I guess but you still have to bring all those people in at the same time one way or another.


Should have held the station better then =p

General Windypops
Gallente
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
Posted - 2010.01.03 22:31:00 - [321]
 

Originally by: Lord WarATron
Bee's upset over loosing their hive? LaughingLaughingLaughing


I know, I thought there was only supposed to be one queen per swarm, but these guys seem to be full of them.

Ziley
Amarr
The Ankou
Raiden.
Posted - 2010.01.03 22:31:00 - [322]
 

What ever happened to adapt or die? Clearly IT adapted so they didn't lose their entire cap fleet. PL was not so smart here....

Qeng Nuwen
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2010.01.03 22:32:00 - [323]
 

Originally by: Pudgy McFudge
Kick BTLS

General Windypops
Gallente
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
Posted - 2010.01.03 22:39:00 - [324]
 

Originally by: Helen Highwater
How do you 'slowly build your forces up' over the day in a system where you can't dock at the station and you have no friendly POSes to shelter in? You can do logoff stuff I guess but you still have to bring all those people in at the same time one way or another.


I think it was Sun Tzu who said 'giveth awayeth the tactical advantage by ****ing upeth and failingz0r badly at pvp, and thou hast not the tactical advantage anymore - deal with it'. It was either Sun Tzu, Viper or Mr Miyagi, I can't remember which.

You screwed up on so many levels last night I'm amazed you have the balls to whine.

- Bragging wildly in advance of the fight about how hard you were going to own
- The excruciating screw up in the handover of the system
- Failing to retain numbers in system despite having hours to prepare
- The genius FC who made the call to 'jump' despite huge amounts of evidence about what would happen

You got what you deserved, and Goons have had ludicrous amounts of luck with this kind of lag before. Now, however, you're just the recipients of the biggest pasting in the history of Eve. Sorry, daniel-san :(





Gwyneira Vulva'Mae
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.01.03 22:42:00 - [325]
 

Edited by: Gwyneira Vulva''Mae on 03/01/2010 22:42:21
Originally by: General Windypops
You're right, it was CCP that forced the FC to decide that was the best time to jump in. It was CCP that decided the best course of action was to let IT build up steadily throughout the day rather than trying to make a beachhead. There's NO WAY that what happened to the NC twice in a row would EVER happen to them, right?

There's nothing we can do about IT building up in euro prime when we're a US alliance, but the best time to jump into a non-reinforced system with 700 in local already is to wait until it's reinforced after downtime, which is too late under the new sov mechanics. It's just not possible to bring in the numbers to counter that if the node isn't reinforced which brings us back to my point, which is that the invaders' CEO is in complete control of whether or not the target system can be defended in the first place because of the way node reinforcement works. It's game breaking whether you're talking about SirMolle or karttoon, though it certainly favors whoever's timezone comes first after downtime.

Finanche
Minmatar
Salus Novus
United Front Alliance
Posted - 2010.01.03 22:43:00 - [326]
 

Originally by: General Windypops
Originally by: Helen Highwater
How do you 'slowly build your forces up' over the day in a system where you can't dock at the station and you have no friendly POSes to shelter in? You can do logoff stuff I guess but you still have to bring all those people in at the same time one way or another.


I think it was Sun Tzu who said 'giveth awayeth the tactical advantage by ****ing upeth and failingz0r badly at pvp, and thou hast not the tactical advantage anymore - deal with it'. It was either Sun Tzu, Viper or Mr Miyagi, I can't remember which.

You screwed up on so many levels last night I'm amazed you have the balls to whine.

- Bragging wildly in advance of the fight about how hard you were going to own
- The excruciating screw up in the handover of the system
- Failing to retain numbers in system despite having hours to prepare
- The genius FC who made the call to 'jump' despite huge amounts of evidence about what would happen

You got what you deserved, and Goons have had ludicrous amounts of luck with this kind of lag before. Now, however, you're just the recipients of the biggest pasting in the history of Eve. Sorry, daniel-san :(







200% agree with the post....failure on the FC part BIG time!

General Windypops
Gallente
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
Posted - 2010.01.03 22:46:00 - [327]
 

Edited by: General Windypops on 03/01/2010 22:49:19
Originally by: Gwyneira Vulva'Mae
There's nothing we can do about IT building up in euro prime when we're a US alliance


Not sure if you noticed, but the fight took place in US TZ. Sorry to burst your bubble (or, to put it another way, sorry to pop your egg). You're also talking drivel, as I managed to move 3 ships directly through your space just an hour or so before the attack, and only saw tiny gate camps that even a single pilot could easily bust. You didn't make any effort whatsoever to prevent numbers moving into the system.



zythyl
Gallente
NQX Innovations
Posted - 2010.01.03 22:50:00 - [328]
 

Originally by: Matata Hakuna
Originally by: Butter Dog

Stop crying and learn from your mistakes Very Happy



You are still posting despite your posts being one huge mistake so who are you to tell others to learn from their mistakes?Laughing

Ah butter log you are too easy to pick on. I feel like Sergei Bubka on special Olympics. Which makes you specialLaughing


Why do you put "Laughing" after every sentence? It's like you're really nervous or anxious about someth- OH IT MIGHT BE ALL THOSE DEAD TITANS.

Gwyneira Vulva'Mae
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.01.03 22:51:00 - [329]
 

Edited by: Gwyneira Vulva''Mae on 03/01/2010 22:51:39
Originally by: General Windypops
Originally by: Gwyneira Vulva'Mae
There's nothing we can do about IT building up in euro prime when we're a US alliance


Not sure if you noticed, but the fight took place in US TZ. Sorry to burst your bubble (or, to put it another way, sorry to pop your egg)


Yes, which is after euro prime. Even if 90% of them were afk asleep their ships were there, in the system, sitting in a pos somewhere holding the node at full capacity. Which is the problem.

Pudgy McFudge
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.01.03 22:51:00 - [330]
 

If you build up in Euro prime you are built up before US prime.

So you see, there is nothing we can do if IT can build up in Euro Prime before we have the opportunity to build up is US time.

Because by time we start building up in US prime, Euro Prime has passed and any building up that happens in Euro time is finished befor any building up in Us time even begins.

In conclusion, buttes.


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