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Ashok
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.01.02 05:03:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Magnus Nordir
Edited by: Magnus Nordir on 02/01/2010 03:03:31
-Make trial alt
-Warp hulk char into belt
-Shoot at hulk with trial alt
-CONCORD in belt, hulk ungankable
-Repeat as necesarry once CONCORD warps off

Was that so hard?


If you listen closely, you can almost hear all the pest pilots laughing.

The Crushah
Gallente
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2010.01.02 08:21:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Ashok
Originally by: Magnus Nordir
Edited by: Magnus Nordir on 02/01/2010 03:03:31
-Make trial alt
-Warp hulk char into belt
-Shoot at hulk with trial alt
-CONCORD in belt, hulk ungankable
-Repeat as necesarry once CONCORD warps off

Was that so hard?


If you listen closely, you can almost hear all the pest pilots laughing.


Shhh, dont give away the false sense of security....

fmercury
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.01.02 12:17:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Alt0101

Hell, a miner with a maxed Hulk can make, how much? $8-10Mil/h? while a semi-AFK mission runner can make $20-25. and flood the marker with cheap mineral after reprocess all the loot.

Don't get me wrong I don,t have nothing against Mission runners, I just use their profession as an example of how miserable is actually mining in high-sec compared with it.





Maybe you should take that as a hint to stop mining in high-sec. Just a thought.

fmercury
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.01.02 12:24:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Magnus Nordir
Edited by: Magnus Nordir on 02/01/2010 03:03:31
-Make trial alt
-Warp hulk char into belt
-Shoot at hulk with trial alt
-CONCORD in belt, hulk ungankable
-Repeat as necesarry once CONCORD warps off

Was that so hard?


Also, this is an exploit. Just FYI.

sir gankalot
Posted - 2010.01.02 14:21:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: fmercury
Originally by: Magnus Nordir
Edited by: Magnus Nordir on 02/01/2010 03:03:31
-Make trial alt
-Warp hulk char into belt
-Shoot at hulk with trial alt
-CONCORD in belt, hulk ungankable
-Repeat as necesarry once CONCORD warps off

Was that so hard?


Also, this is an exploit. Just FYI.

Shooting at ships with a trial alt is NOT an exploit. You can shoot ships with trial alts all you want. Smile

Velocity Prime
The Greater Goon
Clockwork Pineapple
Posted - 2010.01.02 14:36:00 - [36]
 

Edited by: Velocity Prime on 02/01/2010 14:38:38
Originally by: Alt0101

So, first you claim your apology of terrorism and then when someone point this out you quickly come to retract you.. hmm to late, you have a big mouth.

I know who you are, you are the kind of person who take his joy by the others suffer.

That doesn't makes you special, despite your insane narcissism wished to be. unfortunately, the history has brought us other specimens with your similar way of thinkig.
i.e. Hi*ler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim Jong II... among others, sure you see them as "idols".
I wouldn't even be surprised if like a little Josef Fritzl (sure you envy him) you have your own daughter locked up in your basement and you "have fun with your friends" by sexual abuse of her while watching movies like Saw which sure makes you get hard.

You are a mother nature aberration/outrage and you should has born dead.

I hope nature fix its error soon by giving you a colon cancer.



ShockedLaughing

Bravo! Wishes of real life illnesses over some internet spaceships, well done!



fmercury
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.01.02 15:57:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: sir gankalot
Originally by: fmercury
Originally by: Magnus Nordir
Edited by: Magnus Nordir on 02/01/2010 03:03:31
-Make trial alt
-Warp hulk char into belt
-Shoot at hulk with trial alt
-CONCORD in belt, hulk ungankable
-Repeat as necesarry once CONCORD warps off

Was that so hard?


Also, this is an exploit. Just FYI.

Shooting at ships with a trial alt is NOT an exploit. You can shoot ships with trial alts all you want. Smile


Don't be a smartass. Spawning concord intentionally to protect you is an exploit

fmercury
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.01.02 16:03:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Alt0101
Originally by: Velocity Prime

ShockedLaughing

Bravo! Wishes of real life illnesses over some internet spaceships, well done!



No, you don't get the point. you are organizing a massive attack against other people leisure time, hooping to ruin it and make them feel miserable for your personal joy.

Among many choices you have to organize a big PVP event, i.e 0.0 roams or low sec ganks, hell even high-sec wardecs (where people are aware of the risk and willing to have it), you choose to attack the only one players who the only one thing they want is enjoy their leisure time by relaxing and mining in harmless non-combat ships (at THIS given time)

So, once you are clearly attacking the RL other people leisure time with no other aim but just to make them suffer and laught at it, you have crossed the line between "just a game" and RL griefing.

It's personal, and Helicity knows it because he's a naz* psycho as I already said.


Perhaps this is not the game for you. Take your mood stabilizing pills and go outside.

Velocity Prime
The Greater Goon
Clockwork Pineapple
Posted - 2010.01.02 16:11:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Alt0101
Originally by: Velocity Prime

ShockedLaughing

Bravo! Wishes of real life illnesses over some internet spaceships, well done!



No, you don't get the point. you are organizing a massive attack against other people leisure time, hooping to ruin it and make them feel miserable for your personal joy.

Among many choices you have to organize a big PVP event, i.e 0.0 roams or low sec ganks, hell even high-sec wardecs (where people are aware of the risk and willing to have it), you choose to attack the only one players who the only one thing they want is enjoy their leisure time by relaxing and mining in harmless non-combat ships (at THIS given time)

So, once you are clearly attacking the RL other people leisure time with no other aim but just to make them suffer and laught at it, you have crossed the line between "just a game" and RL griefing.

It's personal, and Helicity knows it because he's a naz* psycho as I already said.


Aww I see you deleted your post wishing cancer upon Helicity. Good thing I quoted you, eh?


Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2010.01.02 16:56:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: imunch****
Originally by: fmercury


Don't be a smartass. Spawning concord intentionally to protect you is an exploit



mmmmmmmm.....

tears

delicious


Those aren't tears you pathetic scrub, if there is any tone it's weariness of dealing with morons on the forum.

Droog 1
Posted - 2010.01.02 16:58:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: fmercury
Originally by: sir gankalot
Originally by: fmercury
Originally by: Magnus Nordir
Edited by: Magnus Nordir on 02/01/2010 03:03:31
-Make trial alt
-Warp hulk char into belt
-Shoot at hulk with trial alt
-CONCORD in belt, hulk ungankable
-Repeat as necesarry once CONCORD warps off

Was that so hard?


Also, this is an exploit. Just FYI.

Shooting at ships with a trial alt is NOT an exploit. You can shoot ships with trial alts all you want. Smile


Don't be a smartass. Spawning concord intentionally to protect you is an exploit

How can a GM tell if it was done to spawn concord or if the player was attempting to take part in Hulkageddon II and was just really bad at suicide ganking?

Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Defenders of Pen Island
Posted - 2010.01.02 18:12:00 - [42]
 

im afraid the time has come to press the report button.

Kyle Langdon
Gallente
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
Posted - 2010.01.02 19:18:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Alt0101
Originally by: Velocity Prime

ShockedLaughing

Bravo! Wishes of real life illnesses over some internet spaceships, well done!



No, you don't get the point. you are organizing a massive attack against other people leisure time, hooping to ruin it and make them feel miserable for your personal joy.

Among many choices you have to organize a big PVP event, i.e 0.0 roams or low sec ganks, hell even high-sec wardecs (where people are aware of the risk and willing to have it), you choose to attack the only one players who the only one thing they want is enjoy their leisure time by relaxing and mining in harmless non-combat ships (at THIS given time)

So, once you are clearly attacking the RL other people leisure time with no other aim but just to make them suffer and laught at it, you have crossed the line between "just a game" and RL griefing.

It's personal, and Helicity knows it because he's a naz* psycho as I already said.


No I don't think you quite get it. Explain where Helicity has said that we are attacking the people at the keyboards. He hasn't. What we are doing is simply a culling of the stupid, inattentive miners who take High Sec for granted.

Your post about hoping Helicity getting cancer and comparing to him to ****** is quite offensive and shows your pettiness. In fact, I am quite sickened by your false accusation of his character since you do not know the man at all.

I also bolded the fallacy of your argument. By undocking from station, no matter where you are, you consent to PVP, you understand the risks of EVE and you accept them. If you personally cannot accept those risks than maybe this game really is not for you.

Deela Cho
Posted - 2010.01.02 19:25:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: NyteTyger
...I have to ask if you realize that Hulkageddon is, in effect (if not intent) a boon to miners?

...True miners, those that enjoy the logistics and proper planning that goes into a good mining op, won't be effected a whit by Hulkageddon...

...Remember guys, you don't have to beat the ganker to win, you just have to outlast him...

...I wish I could remember who it was, but I'm more than a bit drunk now, and to be honest, I was more than a bit drunk during then Smile ...


Excellent point, NyteTyger! Listen up all you other miners out there: HTFU. We can handle this. By whining in the forums, you're just giving all the pirates what they want: tears.

And NyteTyger is completely correct that AFK miners hurt business for those of us who actually enjoy mining while ATK ("At The Keyboard"). I actually plan on seeking out some Hulks with a combat alt, convo'ing them to check for AFK, and then popping them if/when I get no response.

Further more, I too believe that the best way to mine is to mine drunk.

Minark Bruith
Posted - 2010.01.02 19:44:00 - [45]
 

It all seems pretty pointless to complain about. This is a game with a lot of PvP to it. It's hardly easy to kill someone, even in .5, unless they really have their head deep inside of their colon. I've watched these guys warp in and get nailed by sharp pilots or fleets, lured into traps. Plenty of times the target just gets the hell out of there. Frankly, I'm surprised by the number of people who have something to gripe about. How many people had their ship blown up when they were at the keyboard mining? I certainly haven't.

Omgah
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
Posted - 2010.01.02 20:34:00 - [46]
 

Edited by: Omgah on 02/01/2010 20:34:43

Escoce
Gallente
Interstellar Tritanium
United Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2010.01.02 20:39:00 - [47]
 

I plan on flying a hulk all next week just to have some fun.

This is going to affect AFK miners the most. Anyone with a sense to not fit all cargo expanders, and fit an evasion fitting and not going to go watch a movie while mining away will have to deal with a minor annoyance only. People fit to AFK mine, or max cargo are the ones who are going to have trouble.

Besides you all need to learn that space isn't safe, high sec or low sec doesn't matter. It's cold out there, get used to it, don't be stupid and learn to fly safely. It's when you get greedy and lose sight of having to take care of yourself is when you loose ships. Miners wouldn't lose ships if they took the time to ensure their own safety.

Escoce
Master Miner and Trader
Interstellar Tritanium
United Trade Syndicate

Escoce
Gallente
Interstellar Tritanium
United Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2010.01.02 20:56:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Alt0101

<snip>
No, you don't get the point. you are organizing a massive attack against other people leisure time, hooping to ruin it and make them feel miserable for your personal joy.
<snip>

Originally by: Kyle Langdon

<snip>
What we are doing is simply a culling of the stupid, inattentive miners who take High Sec for granted.
<snip>
<snip>
By undocking from station, no matter where you are, you consent to PVP, you understand the risks of EVE and you accept them. If you personally cannot accept those risks than maybe this game really is not for you.
<snip>




Right here, this sums it all up. Alt0101 and Kyle have put it clearly into perspective.

Alt0101, you chose to play a game with this very risk...YOU put yourself in this position of vulnerability. All the subscribers who don't like it consented to this game when they subbed, and they consent to being shot at every time they undock.

Kyle, nice write up.

Escoce
Master Miner and Trader
Interstellar Tritinium
United Trade Syndicate

Scarry Peak
Posted - 2010.01.02 22:49:00 - [49]
 

Macro miners - I think everyone agrees they're bad.

I have... sorry HAD sympathy for the OP initially as I also have RL circs that limit how much I can play and sometimes mining in front of the TV is about all I can manage. Sure I make a little more mining semi-afk on the rare days I get to work from home... but comparing what I will "lose" in "income" vs replacing my pixelly-hulky... umm no brainer.
I HAD sympathy until someone kindly quoted your comment about wishing colon cancer on someone.

I am intrigued to find out what a battle fit hulk ... EveMon only has a lot of variations on a tanking theme... unless that's it? I've actually found a lot of decent advice in this here thread about improving my hulk fit...

So... I think I'm gonna make EVERYONE happy...
OP - I'm staying docked (oh... but I am also a greedy trader & manufacturer...oopsy)
Helicity - I'll be flexing a little "variety" muscle and staying firmly at the keyboard... I have been following your forum thread in C&P and the website but I need to keep hold of standings and I only have a 2 hour window for play, max during the week - so does that count me out of participating in something like this (if only for the cancer comment?)
And as for me... am I happy? Yep - operation standings crank will FINALLY get some time-lovin'... (not to mention I got a shed load of DVDs for Chrimble, so... y'know...)

Simples.

fmercury
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.01.02 23:23:00 - [50]
 

Edited by: fmercury on 02/01/2010 23:23:07
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1243865&page=1

Have some peace of mind! (For a small fee.)

Commissar Veldt
Caldari
Progressive State
Posted - 2010.01.03 00:45:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Alt0101
Dear miners.

I really don't get why, but seems like the whole EVE universe is against miners.




Spot on

Borun Tal
Minmatar
Space Pods Inc
Posted - 2010.01.03 02:07:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Lady Spank
Originally by: imunch****
Originally by: fmercury


Don't be a smartass. Spawning concord intentionally to protect you is an exploit



mmmmmmmm.....

tears

delicious


Those aren't tears you pathetic scrub, if there is any tone it's weariness of dealing with morons on the forum.


This. +1

Rip Minner
Gallente
ARMITAGE Logistics Salvage and Industries
Posted - 2010.01.03 02:50:00 - [53]
 

Just preload belt with Concord right in there face it works wonders :)

Teister
Minmatar
Clown Punchers.
Clown Punchers Syndicate
Posted - 2010.01.03 04:57:00 - [54]
 

Edited by: Teister on 03/01/2010 05:38:09
Edited by: Teister on 03/01/2010 04:57:47
Originally by: Alt0101

Cancer...Stalin...******...Blah...Blah



I'm glad this guy posted. This really sheds a nice light who the *******s in this game really are and gives yet another reason for people to participate in Hulkageddon II.

And I also would like to say that BOZO will be up to the task of not only ganking Hulks for this fine event, but will also consider it a personal challenge to gank as many of you exploiting little nancyboys who feel it necessary to preload Concord into your belt as we can. You will not be safe...so preload these nuts in your mouth...

Entgo Ditumi
Posted - 2010.01.03 08:09:00 - [55]
 

Hulkaggedon is simply a manifestation of a bunch of sorry pirates who can't cut it fighting pilots who are prepared to fight back... I'm sorry, did I say pirates? Pffffff. They hardly deserve the name. Come to 0.0, where the real PVP is, you bunch of pansies.

As for people who think that surviving concord long enough to take down a hulk is a challenge: I suppose you have to crawl before you can walk. Let the real PVPers know when you can finally walk. Then they'll teach you to dance.

Good luck with Hulkageddon, you sorry excuses for PVPers.

JaseNZ
Gallente
The Suicide Kings
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2010.01.03 08:41:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: FunzzeR
THE SCOTTISH FOLD HAS ORDERED ME TO GANK MANY HULKS IN THEIR NAME!!

PRAISE THE SCOTTISH FOLD!!

FOR THEY HAVE INFINITE WISDOM AND WILL LEAD MINERS AWAY FROM THE TEMPTATION OF VELDSPAR!!

THE SCOTTISH FOLD ALSO SEEKS TO FREE MINERS FROM THE YOKE OF OPPRESSION THAT IS MINING!!

PRAISE THE SCOTTISH FOLD!!


My sister has a Scottish Fold.
At first she didn't realise it, and thought something was wrong with their kitten, then they were told what a Scottish Fold is heh.

I wasn't flying a Hulk back when the first Hulkageddon came around, and not really too worried about this one.
If I get bored with mining, I just go mission...might as well use the whole week to mission. Very Happy

Petrak O'Karr
Posted - 2010.01.03 10:19:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Magnus Nordir
Edited by: Magnus Nordir on 02/01/2010 03:03:31
-Make trial alt
-Warp hulk char into belt
-Shoot at hulk with trial alt
-CONCORD in belt, hulk ungankable
-Repeat as necesarry once CONCORD warps off

Was that so hard?


you do know that alt accounts and real accounts can not be run at the same time, right?

just saying.

Wensley
Minmatar
Matari Exodus
Posted - 2010.01.03 11:09:00 - [58]
 

Trial alt = second account made with buddy programme.

Come on people, keep up.

Oh, I'm so glad I've just fixed my security status...

sir gankalot
Posted - 2010.01.03 11:26:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: fmercury


Also, this is an exploit. Just FYI.

Shooting at ships with a trial alt is NOT an exploit. You can shoot ships with trial alts all you want. Smile


Don't be a smartass. Spawning concord intentionally to protect you is an exploit


Don't be a dumbass, that intent can never be proven.

"I wasn't preloading concord, I was trying to suicide gank a hulk in my nub ship.".

Nika Dekaia
Posted - 2010.01.03 11:36:00 - [60]
 

Edited by: Nika Dekaia on 03/01/2010 11:38:52
Using an alt to spawn CONCORD which is then recycled to circumvent the standing loss is an exploit.
Originally by: GM Grimmi
Our stance towards recycling "disposable alts" for purposes such as suicide ganking or summoning CONCORD for bodyguard duty is that it is an exploit, clear and simple.
Linkage
Edit: As sir gankalot said, spawning CONCORD itself is not an exploit. Could never be prooven. It's hard enough to proove the alt spawning CONCORD-thing.


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