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Alt0101
Posted - 2010.01.01 02:11:00 - [1]
 

Dear miners.

I assume you are already aware about the next Hulkaggedon II scheduled for 7-14 January.

There are many effort/time/isk/items put on it, they even have their own website.

Seems like everybody, greedy traders, manufacturers and griefers are already slobbering because of the consequences of such event.

I really don't get why, but seems like the whole EVE universe is against miners.

Macro miners who get rich while play AFK, Real money traders, low mineral prices, insurance fraud.. all of EVE "problems" are caused by the evil miners.

Even when CCP showed in their QEN Q3 2009 that Operation Unholy Rage against RMTes, affected, mainly, Mission farmers.

Hell, a miner with a maxed Hulk can make, how much? $8-10Mil/h? while a semi-AFK mission runner can make $20-25. and flood the marker with cheap mineral after reprocess all the loot.

Don't get me wrong I don,t have nothing against Mission runners, I just use their profession as an example of how miserable is actually mining in high-sec compared with it.

But no, they don't get ganked, is the poor miners who has to pay for all.

Well, I say F*** 'em all!

I would like to ask your help in ruining the Hulkaggedon II by just keep everything with a mining laser docked up in the second week of January.

This will frustrate the the pirates giving them 0 targets, F*** up the manufactures whom promoted the event by giving prizes expecting huge profits, ruin the day of greedy traders who have already speculate and bough Hulks just to resell them after hundreds of miners lose their owns.

Also, after one week on no mining activities at all, prices of low-end minerals might rise a bit (or so I hope)

So, don't be fool and don't let them blow up your beloved ship.
Keep your mining ship docked and do other stuff during that week.

Fly safe.




TigerXtrm
APEX ARDENT COALITION
Posted - 2010.01.01 03:44:00 - [2]
 

I was already planning on keeping my Hulk docked up until the kids are done playing. But thanks for the advice.

Also, publicly announcing when you're going to destroy what ships where, might not be the best tactic. I sure hope none of you folks are working for any sort of government agency. Rolling Eyes

Lord Windu
Posted - 2010.01.01 05:18:00 - [3]
 

Alt0101, you say it's all because the people participating hate miners and associate all miners with isk sellers blah, blah blah. That's total crap tbh, I think it's about fun and about playing the game how people want to "the way Eve is supposed to be played". You want to mine and others want to blow **** up, simples.

Also, due to the number of people in Eve who do mine, the chance of a person getting ganked isn't going to be very high if you think about it. My miner alt will be out clearing the belt's of ore as usual for sure, and you are right, if everyone stops mining during Hulkageddon the mineral prices may rise, so I should have a good stockpile made up while you lot are spinning your ship in station.

Lee Shingami
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2010.01.01 05:53:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Lord Windu
Alt0101, you say it's all because the people participating hate miners and associate all miners with isk sellers blah, blah blah. That's total crap tbh, I think it's about fun and about playing the game how people want to "the way Eve is supposed to be played". You want to mine and others want to blow **** up, simples.

Also, due to the number of people in Eve who do mine, the chance of a person getting ganked isn't going to be very high if you think about it. My miner alt will be out clearing the belt's of ore as usual for sure, and you are right, if everyone stops mining during Hulkageddon the mineral prices may rise, so I should have a good stockpile made up while you lot are spinning your ship in station.


Mind telling me what system? You seem not to care anyways :)

coolzero
Gallente
Posted - 2010.01.01 08:55:00 - [5]
 

mine will be in storage and already have a stockpile of ore...

and QFT for the op well said :P

ResKriv
Posted - 2010.01.01 09:43:00 - [6]
 

Ever heard of a Battle Hulk, you get 4 or 5 of these sitting in a low sec belt and man you can put your 0.0 tank setups through the grinder, while surprising the crap out of guys in bs s. Or go sit in high sec near a newb system where "new pirates" read about hulkaggeon on the forums and try to take you down..


Order of operation.

1- scram
2- web
3- neut
4- drones
5- laugh like a maniac.

Have some fun with it, its only a week. Very Happy


Hera Ominae
Posted - 2010.01.01 12:29:00 - [7]
 

Just move 10 jumps away from four main trade hubs and you are safe, adhd kids doesn't have the attention span to fly and search miners. It's amazing how fast these kids get bored Laughing

Vossten Vader
Posted - 2010.01.01 12:54:00 - [8]
 

Not everyone reads forums.

That is why they will
a) Find enough targets
b) can announce it on forums without having their targets run away

NyteTyger
Gallente
NiteSun Enterprises
Posted - 2010.01.01 13:09:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Alt0101
Dear miners.
...
Fly safe.



While I applaud your good intentions, I have to ask if you realize that Hulkageddon is, in effect (if not intent) a boon to miners?

True miners, those that enjoy the logistics and proper planning that goes into a good mining op, won't be effected a whit by Hulkageddon. Those miners that actually play the game with the slightest impersonation of a clue can avoid 99% of the risk involved in suicide ganking.

Remember guys, you don't have to beat the ganker to win, you just have to outlast him.

My alt was mining happily in a belt while the first HAG was in effect. Never had a bit of a problem. Saw the Catalysts warp in, and I warped out. No issues at all. The 5 AFKer's in the area were not so lucky. I wish I could remember who it was, but I'm more than a bit drunk now, and to be honest, I was more than a bit drunk during then Smile

Point is, most folks who read your post aren't going to have more than a minor inconvenience from HAG, and those that do most likely have only themselves to blame.

Minchurra
Caldari
Posted - 2010.01.01 13:53:00 - [10]
 

Quote:
There are many effort/time/isk/items put on it, they even have their own website.


Guys, they have their own website. This **** is real.

Alt0101
Posted - 2010.01.01 14:25:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: NyteTyger
Point is, most folks who read your post aren't going to have more than a minor inconvenience from HAG, and those that do most likely have only themselves to blame.[/quote



Well, that's, in fact, my aim.

I just want to give a warn to the guy who mine just because he like it due its role play (OMG a guy who like minig Shocked) yes they do exist. And/or the average guy who mine to get some iskies to pay other stuff.
To the Macro miners who use programs to exterminate the roids just to sell isk for real money, well.. I hope they don't read the forums Very Happy

So, if you know how to take care of yourself, fine. If you are a newby and/or not really sure how to survive a gank attack, keep your head low, aka stay docked up when the gunfire start.

Originally by: Minchurra
Quote:
There are many effort/time/isk/items put on it, they even have their own website.


Guys, they have their own website. This **** is real.


Hell, yes is F*** real. With more than 8b+ships in prizes is no longer "just for the lolz". Is business.
And, yes they have made a website to keep everything organized.

Oh, and you can even join their In-game channel: "Hulkageddon II"

Fly safe

sir gankalot
Posted - 2010.01.01 16:33:00 - [12]
 

Spread the word brothers and sisters \o/
I might even actively go scouting for hulks during the event and warn them and pre-load belts with concord just for lulz.

FireT
Gallente
Royal Advanced Industries
Imperial Crimson Legion
Posted - 2010.01.01 17:08:00 - [13]
 

I actually was mining during Hulkagedon and never actually noticed any danger in my ice belt.

It was not near a major trading hub, so I never got any attention. And really, for those that are worried: go run a few missions if you are truly afraid for a Hulk that most likely paid itself off years ago.

Aloriana Jacques
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2010.01.01 18:40:00 - [14]
 

Simple fact, Hulkagedon is no different than any time of year when the gankers are out. The only difference now is they're keeping score and have prizes.

If you mine properly (no afk mining, no boting, pay attention, stay aligned) then you're absolutely fine.

In the end, even if they destroy a thousand hulks the only thing that'll change on the market is a spike in Hulk purchases and related modules.

Stupid McStupidson
Gallente
Hoek Lyne and Sinker
Posted - 2010.01.01 18:58:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Aloriana Jacques
...(no afk mining, no boting, pay attention, stay aligned) then you're absolutely fine.

In the end, even if they destroy a thousand hulks the only thing that'll change on the market is a spike in Hulk purchases and related modules.



Most of your advice is good, but please stop spreading aligning misinformation. Aligning only matters when you are moving. I try explaining this to people in game quite a bit, and no one ever believes me, even though there are Official Sources stating so.

imunchclit
Posted - 2010.01.01 19:09:00 - [16]
 

During the first weekend, if you see me sniping at your Hulk or Mackinaw with my trusty noobship, then fear not - I am pre-loading Concord for you. ugh

Aloriana Jacques
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2010.01.01 19:10:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Aloriana Jacques on 01/01/2010 19:19:11
Originally by: Stupid McStupidson
Most of your advice is good, but please stop spreading aligning misinformation. Aligning only matters when you are moving. I try explaining this to people in game quite a bit, and no one ever believes me, even though there are Official Sources stating so.


"If you give the warp command without aligning the ship in advance, the ship will attempt to align itself automatically. Automatic alignment may be hindered by the presence of nearby obstacles (such as other ships or asteroids) which must be negotiated before your ship can build up enough speed for the warp drive to engage."

These seconds do count when someone who you think is there to kill you appears on your grid. The last thing you need is to attempt to warp off only to find yourself bounce on a rock you thought was out of range.

EDIT: You're probably thinking of passive alignment, which I agree is useless. But the point of aligning ahead of time is to ensure your path is clear, not just to point yourself in the right direction.

sir gankalot
Posted - 2010.01.01 19:45:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: imunch****
During the first weekend, if you see me sniping at your Hulk or Mackinaw with my trusty noobship, then fear not - I am pre-loading Concord for you. ugh

I might just be doing the same thing.

Thinking of making a new trial account for it. Gathering intel on ppl participating in hulkageddon and stalking them. Gonna see if more ppl in my corp are up for that. :)

Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
Posted - 2010.01.01 20:08:00 - [19]
 

I was going to do this anyway, but not for the reasons you have outlined. My reasons? Think Bubbu-Gump shrimp.

Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Defenders of Pen Island
Posted - 2010.01.01 23:55:00 - [20]
 

Cross-post-fu!

Originally by: Alt0101


Whine? there's no whine at all... no "sweet tears".
If I manage to avoid just one Hulk to get ganked by your bunch of puppets Ihave, already, won.


I see a fantastic amount of emo whining in your post, you are trying to make this all very personal and such. This is really very very entertaining to me.

I dont care who you are, I dont care who the miners are, I dont care how you feel about it either.

I'm having fun, my friends are having fun, we are laughing a great deal at your agitated responses and pettiness, and Im genuinely having a fabulous time of it...and we havent even fired a shot yet.

And the more you sputter, the more you try to question my motives (which you clearly are UNABLE to comprehend) the more fun we have.

This is terrorism, in a sauce of nihilism, purely for the sake of doing it. And the more people agitate against it, and the more people are afraid, the more we win.

Perhaps there is a real life lesson here to be learned for application in the real world.

You know how you beat terrorists? By ignoring whatever they do and carrying on as if nothing happened. Everything else is playing into their hand, the goal of terrorism isnt damage afterall, it's fear. it's making other change their way of behaving and life under the threat of what you -might- do.

Every forum post, blog comment, twitter warning is another victory for Hulkageddon.

You cant beat us, because there is no way for us to lose.

The vultures are already circling.

And to all the dear miners that actually have a clue (some of which have posted in this very thread) you are of course completely right. Any miner with half a brain is effectively "safe" from all but the most overkill gank attempt. as they always have been. It's the brainless ones that will always bear the brunt of the punishment, which is of course to the slight benefit of the smart ones in the end.

Alt1010101whatever's loud screaming and crying only sweetens the pot of course, since this is precisely the caliber and vintage of tears and frustration that power catalysts through it's twin tear-injection reactor. A marvel of gallentean engineering.

Keep it up!

Lars Lodar
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
Posted - 2010.01.02 01:01:00 - [21]
 

Praise and glory be to Allah!

The heavens shall light up with fire only to be snuffed by the tears of a thousand infidels.

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2010.01.02 01:49:00 - [22]
 

Don't worry guys.

Soon these scum noobie kids will not be able to enter high sec so theres not that big a risk.

Lets see these noobie noobs get used to life in low sec, haha.

Future Mutant
Republic Military School
Posted - 2010.01.02 02:20:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Lady Spank
Don't worry guys.

Soon these scum noobie kids will not be able to enter high sec so theres not that big a risk.

Lets see these noobie noobs get used to life in low sec, haha.


Because i have no idea how to make an alt account amirite?

On a totally unrelated note did you know you could buddy invite a trial account- then have the trial account use a plex and your main gets a free month? Its like no loss of plex at all, and if done soon you get one of those free zephyrs.

Im sure a gank dessy cant be trained in a matter of days so your totally safe mining.
MUHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA

Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Defenders of Pen Island
Posted - 2010.01.02 02:24:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Future Mutant
Originally by: Lady Spank
Don't worry guys.

Soon these scum noobie kids will not be able to enter high sec so theres not that big a risk.

Lets see these noobie noobs get used to life in low sec, haha.


Because i have no idea how to make an alt account amirite?

On a totally unrelated note did you know you could buddy invite a trial account- then have the trial account use a plex and your main gets a free month? Its like no loss of plex at all, and if done soon you get one of those free zephyrs.

Im sure a gank dessy cant be trained in a matter of days so your totally safe mining.
MUHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA


you really have no IDEA who you just quoted, do you?

Future Mutant
Republic Military School
Posted - 2010.01.02 02:44:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Helicity Boson


you really have no IDEA who you just quoted, do you?


Im pretty sure thats charlie browns little sister- i may be wrong on this.

Magnus Nordir
Caldari
Nordir Industries
Posted - 2010.01.02 03:02:00 - [26]
 

Edited by: Magnus Nordir on 02/01/2010 03:03:31
-Make trial alt
-Warp hulk char into belt
-Shoot at hulk with trial alt
-CONCORD in belt, hulk ungankable
-Repeat as necesarry once CONCORD warps off

Was that so hard?

Omgah
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
Posted - 2010.01.02 03:28:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Omgah on 02/01/2010 03:28:36
So your plan is to not play the game. Seems like we win even when we lose.

Mikelangelo
Gallente
Posted - 2010.01.02 03:52:00 - [28]
 

Have a cookie and calm down pls.

Lyn Kishin
Posted - 2010.01.02 04:33:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Magnus Nordir
Edited by: Magnus Nordir on 02/01/2010 03:03:31
-Make trial alt
-Warp hulk char into belt
-Shoot at hulk with trial alt
-CONCORD in belt, hulk ungankable
-Repeat as necesarry once CONCORD warps off

Was that so hard?


/me warps in Maelstrom, alpha's hulk, hea you were right, not very hard at allYARRRR!!

Omara Otawan
Posted - 2010.01.02 04:48:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Magnus Nordir

-Shoot at hulk with trial alt
-CONCORD in belt, hulk ungankable
-Repeat as necesarry once CONCORD warps off

Was that so hard?


The hard part is actually getting the CONCORD sitting in the belt to drop their dougnuts. Good idea, doesnt work though Laughing


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